I have a question:
MaidSafe is, in theory, going to provide an encrypted, p2p distributed dropbox functionality, correct?
So how is MS going to provide guaranteed 24/7 access to clients data?
Farmers will provide storage space, and recieve SafeCoin as an award, but these guys are mostly not going to be IT pro's who can guarantee 99.9% uptime.
How will MS deal with a farmer that drops out, taking the stored MS data on his/her hard drive with them ?
The only option that I see to come close to guaranteeing 100% uptime of individual clients data will be to stripe/mirror that data over multiple farmers, but even that still doesn't give 100% certainty that all of the data will be online and accessible at any given moment, and will massively increase the amount of storage needed on the MS network.
Anyone have any idea how this will be implemented?
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This is my official prediction that the MaidSafe project will end badly, perhaps similarly to what happened with Neo and Bee.
Check out the LTB interview with David Irvine: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/ltb103-seek-and-find . Stephanie asks about the coin distribution at 20:35. Note how David starts speaking in vague, feel-good platitudes. This isn't generally how honest people behave. He's protesting a bit too much about how pure his intentions are.
Some more evidence if sketchiness: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/
As of right now, the Safecoin fundraising address has raised 6,691 BTC in the past few days.
It's kind of sketchy how fawning the LTB interview of Irvine was, and how they gave this guy such a big platform to hype his product right before his big fundraiser without asking any tough questions.
Check out the LTB interview with David Irvine: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/ltb103-seek-and-find . Stephanie asks about the coin distribution at 20:35. Note how David starts speaking in vague, feel-good platitudes. This isn't generally how honest people behave. He's protesting a bit too much about how pure his intentions are.
Some more evidence if sketchiness: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/
As of right now, the Safecoin fundraising address has raised 6,691 BTC in the past few days.
It's kind of sketchy how fawning the LTB interview of Irvine was, and how they gave this guy such a big platform to hype his product right before his big fundraiser without asking any tough questions.
Who knows. It is quite ambitious but considering the amount of money they have raised, maybe it's possible. Of course, invest only what you can afford to lose. I put in a couple bitcoins, but I would have put more if it was Zuckerberg doing it or something. :-)
Lets see. If they horribly mismanage the project I suspect people could still come after them legally. But even failed projects in bitcoin history have advanced the bitcoin cause, so even a failure to achieve their goals fully might still be a step forward for all of us.
This is my official prediction that the MaidSafe project will end badly, perhaps similarly to what happened with Neo and Bee.
Check out the LTB interview with David Irvine: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/ltb103-seek-and-find . Stephanie asks about the coin distribution at 20:35. Note how David starts speaking in vague, feel-good platitudes. This isn't generally how honest people behave. He's protesting a bit too much about how pure his intentions are.
Some more evidence if sketchiness: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/
As of right now, the Safecoin fundraising address has raised 6,691 BTC in the past few days.
It's kind of sketchy how fawning the LTB interview of Irvine was, and how they gave this guy such a big platform to hype his product right before his big fundraiser without asking any tough questions.
Check out the LTB interview with David Irvine: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/ltb103-seek-and-find . Stephanie asks about the coin distribution at 20:35. Note how David starts speaking in vague, feel-good platitudes. This isn't generally how honest people behave. He's protesting a bit too much about how pure his intentions are.
Some more evidence if sketchiness: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/
As of right now, the Safecoin fundraising address has raised 6,691 BTC in the past few days.
It's kind of sketchy how fawning the LTB interview of Irvine was, and how they gave this guy such a big platform to hype his product right before his big fundraiser without asking any tough questions.
when you think about it maidsafe is like a bot net, except you knowing install the bot net, and it pays you to do it.
It is a distributed storage network. Unless you are a farmer, then you don't participate in providing storage. Just like a person with a bitcoin wallet doesn't participate in mining.
From the point of view of a user, it is like dropbox but isn't owned by a single company.
Unlike the BitTorrent P2P network, storage nodes get paid coins.
when you think about it maidsafe is like a bot net, except you knowingly install/unistall the bot net, and it pays you to run it.
Saw Zenithcoin on coinmarketcap, tho'. "Doing quite well" is an interesting way to describe Zenithcoins performance.
24hour trade volume of $7.....I am impressed. Still, 134th is better than it's usual position at 220th or lower. Good pump, mate.
I am just the developer of ZenithCoin, it was sold months ago to a new owner. The new owner has some very promising plans. So when I refer to 'doing quite well', I refer to the deal making that is going on behind the scenes.
maidsafe does a dropbox approach rather than i2p/freenet, Eg easy to use, plus if i grok it right maidsafe can be built upon, eg apps etc....
It's like CleverSafe ( see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleversafe ) however it uses a crypto-currency to pay providers for hosting storage.
Folks comparing it to I2P and FreeNet are way off the mark.
With Bitcoin, miners are paid to secure the validation of transactions.
With SafeCoin, farmers are paid to provide storage.
Imagine all that money and energy spent to secure bitcoin and instead used to provide value in a storage network that is private. The value proposition is plain and simple. If you don't get it, then you don't get it!
Maidsafe adds a coin to the equation and some way to login and change your content (and maybe some other things).
The coin part could be what is missing to FreeNet to go viral.
Having another open-source project with similar functionality but different features can't hurt !
The coin part could be what is missing to FreeNet to go viral.
Having another open-source project with similar functionality but different features can't hurt !
maidsafe does a dropbox approach rather than i2p/freenet, Eg easy to use, plus if i grok it right maidsafe can be built upon, eg apps etc....
Why would anyone pay for Nxt?
Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?
Because NXT has a completely different feature set than bitcoin and is designed to be a multi-currency payment platform where Bitcoin is more suited to be a crypto-commodity.Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?
What advantages does Maidsafe have over I2P?
Yeah. People pay few millions dollars for something that is 14 years old and always been free.
Do you google sometime people ?
Freenet :
Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication. It uses a decentralized distributed data store to store information, and has a suite of free software for working with this data store. Both Freenet and some of its associated tools were originally designed by Ian Clarke, who defines Freenet's goal as providing freedom of speech with strong anonymity protection.
Freenet works by storing small encrypted snippets of content distributed on the computers of its users and connecting only through intermediate computers which pass on requests for content and sending them back without knowing the contents of the full file, similar to how routers on the Internet route packets without knowing anything about files—except with caching, a layer of strong encryption, and without reliance on centralized structures. This allows users to publish anonymously or retrieve various kinds of information. Freenet has been under continuous development since 2000.
I2p :
The Invisible Internet Project (I2P) is a computer network layer that allows applications to send messages to each other pseudonymously and securely. Uses include anonymous web surfing, chatting, blogging and file transfers. The software that implements this layer is called an I2P router and a computer running I2P is called an I2P node.
The software is free and open source and is published under multiple licenses. The name I2P is derived from Invisible Internet Project, which, in pseudo-mathematical notation, is represented as I²P.
Since I2P is an anonymous network layer, it is designed so other software can use it for anonymous communication. As such there are a variety of tools currently available for I2P or in development.
The I2P router is controlled through the router console which is a web frontend accessed through a web browser.
Why would anyone pay for Nxt?
Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?
Because NXT has a completely different feature set than bitcoin and is designed to be a multi-currency payment platform where Bitcoin is more suited to be a crypto-commodity.
What advantages does Maidsafe have over I2P?
Because Safecoin has a completely different feature set than I2P and is designed to be a multi-purpose P2P platform where I2P is more suited to be a commodity P2P.
That makes no sense.
I dont think this coin will make any real progress in the near future.
Maybe not a scam but kinds fishy
Maybe not a scam but kinds fishy
Why would anyone pay for Nxt?
Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?
Because NXT has a completely different feature set than bitcoin and is designed to be a multi-currency payment platform where Bitcoin is more suited to be a crypto-commodity.
What advantages does Maidsafe have over I2P?
Because Safecoin has a completely different feature set than I2P and is designed to be a multi-purpose P2P platform where I2P is more suited to be a commodity P2P.
you guys can go the IPO thread to discuss and get timely information.
IPO thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-ipo-of-maidsafe-entering-the-future-of-the-decentralized-internet-579797
site: http://maidsafe.net/
1.2 million in BTC for vaporware given to a charity with no legal comebacks......I really need to run an IPO.
Anyone want some EvilCoin?
Anyone want some EvilCoin?
Clueless as usual.
Hey, a thieving butt monkey as usual...hows ZenithCoin, Carlos?
Doing quite well. Did you see the presentation at www.cryptocurrencyconvention.com?
I guess you also missed the Safecoin presentation too.
24hour trade volume of $7.....I am impressed. Still, 134th is better than it's usual position at 220th or lower. Good pump, mate.
Why would anyone pay for Nxt?
Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?
Because NXT has a completely different feature set than bitcoin and is designed to be a multi-currency payment platform where Bitcoin is more suited to be a crypto-commodity.
What advantages does Maidsafe have over I2P?
Because Safecoin has a completely different feature set than I2P and is designed to be a multi-purpose P2P platform where I2P is more suited to be a commodity P2P.
Why would anyone pay for Nxt?
Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?
Because NXT has a completely different feature set than bitcoin and is designed to be a multi-currency payment platform where Bitcoin is more suited to be a crypto-commodity.
What advantages does Maidsafe have over I2P?
Why would anyone pay for Nxt?
Haven't people heard of Bitcoin?
1.2 million in BTC for vaporware given to a charity with no legal comebacks......I really need to run an IPO.
Anyone want some EvilCoin?
Anyone want some EvilCoin?
Clueless as usual.
Hey, a thieving butt monkey as usual...hows ZenithCoin, Carlos?
Doing quite well. Did you see the presentation at www.cryptocurrencyconvention.com?
I guess you also missed the Safecoin presentation too.
bad examples.
more accurate:
- you lend your ipad to a known child rapist because he wants to "download some stuff".
- you are a truck driver and get hired by a columbian drug cartel to "transport some stuff".
- you are a knife manufacturer and get a big order by an organization called "the children of ted bundy" because they want to "peel some stuff".
- you know that this maidsafe network will first of all be a welcome distribution network for all kind of disturbing and illegal content. still you decide to become part of it.
you're coming up with the same excuses that made the holocaust possible. "i'm not the one pulling the trigger. i'm only providing the weapon. so that's fine i guess."
more accurate:
- you lend your ipad to a known child rapist because he wants to "download some stuff".
- you are a truck driver and get hired by a columbian drug cartel to "transport some stuff".
- you are a knife manufacturer and get a big order by an organization called "the children of ted bundy" because they want to "peel some stuff".
- you know that this maidsafe network will first of all be a welcome distribution network for all kind of disturbing and illegal content. still you decide to become part of it.
you're coming up with the same excuses that made the holocaust possible. "i'm not the one pulling the trigger. i'm only providing the weapon. so that's fine i guess."
one can therefor make the same argument about bitcoin. in fact a huge portion of bitcoin tx are for gambling... so I hear
you are right. also bitcoin has a huge gap between its flower power theory and the dirty practice. but at least (if you can call it at least) it only provides the means to anonymously pay for child porn. maidsafe however is designed to provide an infrastructure for anonymously paying/selling, storing and distributing child porn. whatever good can be done with this technology, it will be paid with 100x evil.
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