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Quote from: rohan1 on April 23, 2014, 10:19:46 AM

The project looks very interesting and ambitious ,but still need more people recognize the value.

thanks. for more information:
IPO thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-ipo-of-maidsafe-entering-the-future-of-the-decentralized-internet-579797
site: http://maidsafe.net/

EvilDave

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Quote from: FrictionlessCoin on April 22, 2014, 09:06:54 PM

Quote from: EvilDave on April 22, 2014, 10:16:32 AM

1.2 million in BTC for vaporware given to a charity with no legal comebacks......I really need to run an IPO.
Anyone want some EvilCoin?

Clueless as usual.

Hey, a thieving butt monkey as usual...hows ZenithCoin, Carlos?

FalconCrypto

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Can I send .5 BTC and get 8500 safecoins? Or is the minimum 1 BTC?

mastercoin_foundation

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Quote from: crunchynut on April 23, 2014, 09:37:02 AM

bad examples.

more accurate:
- you lend your ipad to a known child rapist because he wants to "download some stuff".
- you are a truck driver and get hired by a columbian drug cartel to "transport some stuff".
- you are a knife manufacturer and get a big order by an organization called "the children of ted bundy" because they want to "peel some stuff".
- you know that this maidsafe network will first of all be a welcome distribution network for all kind of disturbing and illegal content. still you decide to become part of it.

you're coming up with the same excuses that made the holocaust possible. "i'm not the one pulling the trigger. i'm only providing the weapon. so that's fine i guess."

one can therefor make the same argument about bitcoin. in fact a huge portion of bitcoin tx are for gambling... so I hear

rohan1

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The project looks very interesting and ambitious ,but still need more people recognize the value.

crazy_rabbit

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RUM AND CARROTS: A PIRATE LIFE FOR ME

Uh, we had the same discussion at the start of bitcoin and so far that seems to be working out, so why try and rehash it with this? The number of people doing bad things will be far outweighed by the good. Thats life.

superresistant

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Quote from: paulsonnumismatics on April 23, 2014, 09:17:32 AM

Quote from: superresistant on April 22, 2014, 04:51:07 AM

MaidSafe will have access to your data any time, will be able to sell it and I think they will do as they are greedy as hell.

I know is feeding the troll, but just one hint: The data will be ENCRYPTED. So no selling or accesing. ENCRYPTED.
Jesus.

Yes I am a little bit trolling sometime but not too much here though.

If data are ENCRYPTED at a point, they must be DECRYPTED at an other.

Only MaidSafe have a total control over it, the software is NOT open-source. So yes, they can access and sell it and you have no way of knowing.

The MaidSafe Foundation, a registered charity, own the patents.

crunchynut

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bad examples.

more accurate:
- you lend your ipad to a known child rapist because he wants to "download some stuff".
- you are a truck driver and get hired by a columbian drug cartel to "transport some stuff".
- you are a knife manufacturer and get a big order by an organization called "the children of ted bundy" because they want to "peel some stuff".
- you know that this maidsafe network will first of all be a welcome distribution network for all kind of disturbing and illegal content. still you decide to become part of it.

you're coming up with the same excuses that made the holocaust possible. "i'm not the one pulling the trigger. i'm only providing the weapon. so that's fine i guess."

paulsonnumismatics

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Quote from: jabo38 on April 23, 2014, 07:49:00 AM

I am a little worried about this issue. I am all for the rights and freedoms of people to do what they want, but when it comes to hurting children, I don't approve at all nor do I want to indirectly support that kind of thing. The first thing that came to mind with this project was drugs, porn, sex, terrorism, and gambling. I don't know if I really want my computer to be supporting that network. At the same time I am not sure if there is anyway to tell just what my computer is supporting or not supporting as it is all encrypted and chopped in bits. But enabling a network to do encourage the abuse of children isn't cool at all. I am all for being able to go to political sites and send messages to my friends without google profiling me for adds and the NSA connecting all the dots of my existence, but at what cost? For now, I am definitely supporting the maidsafe platform and hope that internally they can find ways to deal with certain distasteful issues.

This is a classic "system trained mind" versus a free and libertarian mind argument.

Ok, i will put it this way.

Trucks can transport porn. Can transport poker decks, alcohol and weapons. Lets ban trucks.
Boxes can contain weapons. Drugs, anthrax. Lets get rid of all the boxes in the world.
You can see child porn on an ipad. Also you can read on wikipedia how to print a knife on a 3D printer. Lets destroy apple, delete wikipedia and dont use electricity anymore.

Hope you get the point. I can host on my encrypted HHD some bits that once decrypted and uncompressed on a guy laptop is a naked child. Basically because i dont know whats on this bytes. Neither the ISP is responsible. not the camera that made the photo. Once that appears, i will be fine with police raiding the hell of the guy out. But my PC is not guilty. He is. The perpetrator of the illegal action is.

paulsonnumismatics

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Quote from: superresistant on April 22, 2014, 04:51:07 AM

MaidSafe will have access to your data any time, will be able to sell it and I think they will do as they are greedy as hell.

I know is feeding the troll, but just one hint: The data will be ENCRYPTED. So no selling or accesing. ENCRYPTED.

Jesus.

BADecker

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Quote from: crunchynut on April 23, 2014, 08:42:33 AM

so your only argument is "yes, maidsafe supports all this sick stuff, but the government is hitler!!!" seriously?

Maidsafe works with anyone that works with it. This means that it will be supporting good at times and evil at other times.

Government deceptively brought the debt fiat currency system into being. This money method allows way more corruption and evil than Maidsafe could ever think of doing.

With MaidSafe, people will at least have the privacy so that they can join together and stamp out the evil. But they first have to open their eyes and see what is going on around them.

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Quote from: crunchynut on April 23, 2014, 08:42:33 AM

so your only argument is "yes, maidsafe supports all this sick stuff, but the government is hitler!!!" seriously?

It's a red herring argument. All this Maidsafe stuff is all about encouraging immoral activity.

crunchynut

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so your only argument is "yes, maidsafe supports all this sick stuff, but the government is hitler!!!" seriously?

BADecker

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The issue is whether or not you are going to live among modern society. ALL fiat currency is involved with distasteful and illegal activity. ALL government is serving and is served by distasteful and illegal activity. While MaidSafe might allow distasteful and illegal activity, it eventually will slow the governments way down, and this will slow the distasteful and illegal activity way down.

If you really hate unethical, immoral and illegal activity, start to do something about it. If you can't stand to even hear about it, you are totally in the wrong forum, the wrong society, and maybe in the wrong life.

Just remember, if there are other people wherever you go, there will ALWAYS be at least a smattering of BAD activity. You can't get away from it.

BADecker

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Quote from: crunchynut on April 23, 2014, 08:06:30 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 23, 2014, 07:50:44 AM

Quote from: crunchynut on April 23, 2014, 07:21:28 AM

omg! does it mean that when somebody decides to store some child porn in this decentralized dystopia of yours, everybody in the network will have some child porn on his pc?

Yep. It's a distinct possibility. However, if your computer has any porn on it this way, nobody will know it, because it will be encrypted and chunked.

as a normal citizen, my concern already starts with the fact that there could be child porn on my computer and my activities could support child abuse. it does not start with the question whether somebody is able to discover this kind of sick content on my computer.

See: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6354242.

TaunSew

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It's a legal issue and an appeal issue. How many use TOR and how many companies would ditch their servers for a decentralized one? Never mind the legal and ethical aspects as previously mentioned by another poster

crunchynut

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Quote from: BADecker on April 23, 2014, 07:50:44 AM

Quote from: crunchynut on April 23, 2014, 07:21:28 AM

omg! does it mean that when somebody decides to store some child porn in this decentralized dystopia of yours, everybody in the network will have some child porn on his pc?

Yep. It's a distinct possibility. However, if your computer has any porn on it this way, nobody will know it, because it will be encrypted and chunked.

as a normal citizen, my concern already starts with the fact that there could be child porn on my computer and my activities could support child abuse. it does not start with the question whether somebody is able to discover this kind of sick content on my computer.

BADecker

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Quote from: jabo38 on April 23, 2014, 07:49:00 AM

I am a little worried about this issue. I am all for the rights and freedoms of people to do what they want, but when it comes to hurting children, I don't approve at all nor do I want to indirectly support that kind of thing. The first thing that came to mind with this project was drugs, porn, sex, terrorism, and gambling. I don't know if I really want my computer to be supporting that network. At the same time I am not sure if there is anyway to tell just what my computer is supporting or not supporting as it is all encrypted and chopped in bits. But enabling a network to do encourage the abuse of children isn't cool at all. I am all for being able to go to political sites and send messages to my friends without google profiling me for adds and the NSA connecting all the dots of my existence, but at what cost? For now, I am definitely supporting the maidsafe platform and hope that internally they can find ways to deal with certain distasteful issues.

The advent of MaidSafe in no way requires you to become part of their network. So you do not need to come that close to them. However, if you pay your legal taxes, you are supporting a whole lot of Government Senators and Congressmen who are into child porn right now. Your best bet - if you are not going to actively fight it - is to move to a deserted part of the world, live off the land, shut down all your interaction with society, and hope nobody ever comes for you. Otherwise you are going to be getting your hands dirty, accidentally, a little bit all the time, right now, without MaidSafe.

BADecker

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Quote from: crunchynut on April 23, 2014, 07:21:28 AM

omg! does it mean that when somebody decides to store some child porn in this decentralized dystopia of yours, everybody in the network will have some child porn on his pc?

Yep. It's a distinct possibility. However, if your computer has any porn on it this way, nobody will know it, because it will be encrypted and chunked.

Quote from: crunchynut on April 23, 2014, 07:21:28 AM

no wonder that "THEY" are pushing this stuff that much. once established they don't need any secret police as every critic can be legally thrown into jail for child abuse.

If you force the issue with them, they have the burden not only of proof, but that you knowingly did it, and that you were actively pursuing illegal activity. Not all computers will necessarily have porn on them. So, they will need to prove yours does.

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mining is so 2012-2013

I am a little worried about this issue. I am all for the rights and freedoms of people to do what they want, but when it comes to hurting children, I don't approve at all nor do I want to indirectly support that kind of thing. The first thing that came to mind with this project was drugs, porn, sex, terrorism, and gambling. I don't know if I really want my computer to be supporting that network. At the same time I am not sure if there is anyway to tell just what my computer is supporting or not supporting as it is all encrypted and chopped in bits. But enabling a network to do encourage the abuse of children isn't cool at all. I am all for being able to go to political sites and send messages to my friends without google profiling me for adds and the NSA connecting all the dots of my existence, but at what cost? For now, I am definitely supporting the maidsafe platform and hope that internally they can find ways to deal with certain distasteful issues.

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