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legendary
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May 31, 2017, 09:35:48 AM
Seems like Hillary Clinton knew father of the bomber well before hand. Well do your fathers, gentlemen?  Grin Do you still believe the story that poor Ahmed was discriminated against, while your overprivileged asses should feel guilty?

Also good riddance, that bitch Clinton lost election squarely. Serves backstabbing marxists right.

Ramadan Abedi, father of the bomber:



Except this is Mohamed Magariaf, not the father of the bomber.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=Clinton%2BMohamed+Magariaf&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjw0OP-rJrUAhVs9YMKHUoMA_MQ_AUICSgE&biw=1280&bih=600&dpr=1
legendary
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May 30, 2017, 07:01:44 PM
Here is what I am talking about.  I agree with this Imam.  The other prick is typical aggressive, lying Islamist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRPzkB5mr1U

Muslims need more people like IMAM TAWHIDI.

This other prick (Jamal Rifi) is just that.  Islamic Jihadists were killing non-believers way before Islamic State existed.

But what Abrahamic faith didn't kill non believers at some point in history, on a large scale? The Crusades invalidate a claim of peace for all the Abrahamics except Judaism, and the current state of Israel Palestine reflects quite poorly on the dominate culture group, which we can all agree are the Israelis. People tend to die when a majority decides it's time to, it's the unfortunate but the way shit works here.

Now that I have said that, is see another definition for politics; codifying opinions that aren't universally popular so that they stand the test of time.

Stop this bullshit.  Don't divert the issue.

Issue is Islam and its Islamism and Jihadism that needs to be eradicated.  That is what Muslims should be concentrating on.
Not promoting Islamism and Jihadism.

You should be fucking thankful that there are some Muslims who understand the issue.  Maybe there is hope.

Diverting blame or making excuses does not help.
hero member
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June 05, 2017, 02:40:10 AM
What do you think about yesterday's concert?

I think Ariana Grande was pretty and really emotionally touched by the event. There were also a bunch of sluts like Little Mix.

But the most important thing is about all the money they raised by donations. It's $2.6 million!
Where does it go? The reason of this big fund raising is definitely not clear... how can it help to stop terrorism or to help victims' parents?
legendary
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June 04, 2017, 12:16:54 AM
why does somebody have to go and do that to innocent people Cry

There are multiple reasons. First of all, terrorist organizations such as the ISIS are able to recruit new radicals mostly through attacks such as this one. Staying in the media limelight is another reason. Also, the terror groups receive a lot of donations from similar minded individuals after each of these attacks.
legendary
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June 03, 2017, 02:51:26 PM

They use Quran as their blueprint to implement the Caliphate.

You can redefine what being Muslim means but these people are Muslim whether you like it or not.

If you want to invent Islam 2.0, love you neighbor, Woodstock style religion, go ahead.  Call it Shia 2.0.

If you want to tell ISIS that they are not Muslims, go there and tell them.

I think they are the true Muslims.  They implement what Quran tells every Muslim to do.

Read the Quran before you speak.


I only read parts of the koran but i read the old testament so i know that it was copied by islam.
Christian could change so why muslims cant?
Stop your difference bullshit because it is nearly the same (look abrahamic religions).




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

Bombings did not start in the 2000 with 9/11. It's just that we have a convenient, world wide documentation of their frequency since then. An easy way to look at terrorist actions before then is to simply look at Yassir Arafat's 400 some terrorist actions, but there are many other ways.

Regarding this assertion of yours...
ISIS is a terror organisation. Religion is just an excuse for them.

Respectfully, you don't have the right to say that. You need to look at what they say. I'll take their opinion over yours as to what they are, thanks.

Finally and obviously, there are no comparables between ultra conservative Christians and Islamic terrorists. None. Zip. Nada. Nunca. NIchts.

Oh, and I'm half German.

Palestina and israel is a political and not a religious war.
Its about "Lebensraum".

@wahabism
Here i have the black belt in wikifu:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_fundamentalism

@religion is an excuse

So we agree that the lords resistance army from uganda is a faithful christian NGO?
Ok!

@popcorn

Gadaffi didnt bomb the plane or the disco in west germany because of islam...
Just wikipedia or google dat.

legendary
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June 02, 2017, 11:39:52 AM
why does somebody have to go and do that to innocent people Cry

So that their shit religion would be in the news and in peoples' minds and in threads like this. Strictly for publicity. Then their liars start blabbing in those channels about how "It's not islam, islam is peace blah-blah-blah."

But the very point is that the channels of communication that put Islam in the media was opened up by the violent actors of Islam. They want those conduits because they want to be a primary subject of conversation.
newbie
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June 02, 2017, 02:36:47 AM
why does somebody have to go and do that to innocent people Cry
legendary
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June 02, 2017, 12:44:50 AM
Seems like Hillary Clinton knew father of the bomber well before hand. Well do your fathers, gentlemen?  Grin Do you still believe the story that poor Ahmed was discriminated against, while your overprivileged asses should feel guilty?

Also good riddance, that bitch Clinton lost election squarely. Serves backstabbing marxists right.

The election of Donald Trump as the president of the United States (and the defeat of Hillary Clinton) was the biggest disappointment for the hardline Islamists. Had Hillary won, then an  ISIS sympathizer (Huma Abedin) would have become the first lady of the United States.
sr. member
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June 01, 2017, 12:03:33 PM
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Yeah, if past grievances are going to be used as an excuse for terrorism, Spain would be all ashes now from all the people from former colonies going there to explode - not to mention Jews and Muslims as vengeance for the Inquisition. So far the only bombing I remember was one from the Basques - who probably got easier than the Aztecs or the Maya.

But (According to the Islamist) Islam is perfect and it's people are the only real people of God and you are kaffir, you are a dog. To make Great Britian perfect, as it would be with Sharia Law, notice must be provided to you stupid kaffirs. You'd understand if the real people of God blew up a music concert or two, wouldn't you?

That's the way these sick fucks think. Myself, not only do I not want any of this nonsense but I don't want any of the culture from which it stems, and yes that means the "modern moderate Islam."

This is why they won't reform themselves, they believe the Laws are set in stone. An since they are unlikely to experience what Europe went through that led to secularization, I'm not expecting religion to be a non-issue for them in the near-future.
hero member
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May 31, 2017, 09:24:05 AM
Seems like Hillary Clinton knew father of the bomber well before hand. Well do your fathers, gentlemen?  Grin Do you still believe the story that poor Ahmed was discriminated against, while your overprivileged asses should feel guilty?

Also good riddance, that bitch Clinton lost election squarely. Serves backstabbing marxists right.

Ramadan Abedi, father of the bomber:

legendary
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May 31, 2017, 07:32:07 AM
I`m very sorry for those good and innocent people who died as a result of the explosion. Why did the police stay idle, and did not examine people entering the stadium? Cry

No need to indulge in blame game here. The European don't know when the next attack will occur. There was no prior information from the intelligence department regarding the attack in Manchester, so the security personal didn't took any additional precautions.
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May 31, 2017, 07:21:53 AM
All these problems and issues could be solved easily but, unfortunately, our governments are either too incompetent or too corrupted (either morally by left-wing ideology or financially). All we need to do is to take Japan's example. Why there has never been an Islamic terrorist attack in Japan until now? For one simple reason: Japan has reduced contacts with the Islamic world to the minimum. And immigration policies are pretty strict in Japan. Foreigners are welcome, but they have to behave in compliance with Japanese society's rules and customs.
legendary
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May 31, 2017, 06:39:39 AM
This day is a terror day.  In philippines there is maute group who terrorize the southern philippines.  In UK there is a blast in arianne grande concert.  Something is wrong in this world people nowadays get crazy.

This is something that I've said for awhile, the worlds a changing and there is nothing we can do but try to stop these deadly attacks from happening again. You must change the world, but we shouldn't allow the number of attacks to somehow normalize it in the least and we should always take these attacks with the highest degree of sadness and hope to be able to change something in the world to stop this from occurring again.

Who knows how to stop it though, it's one of those things that's tough if the people are homegrown - the only thing you can do is surrender some of your freedoms to the government for them to watch over and ATTEMPT to find a terrorist that is homegrown, though even then that may not work.
sr. member
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May 31, 2017, 02:57:01 AM
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Yeah, if past grievances are going to be used as an excuse for terrorism, Spain would be all ashes now from all the people from former colonies going there to explode - not to mention Jews and Muslims as vengeance for the Inquisition. So far the only bombing I remember was one from the Basques - who probably got easier than the Aztecs or the Maya.

But (According to the Islamist) Islam is perfect and it's people are the only real people of God and you are kaffir, you are a dog. To make Great Britian perfect, as it would be with Sharia Law, notice must be provided to you stupid kaffirs. You'd understand if the real people of God blew up a music concert or two, wouldn't you?

That's the way these sick fucks think. Myself, not only do I not want any of this nonsense but I don't want any of the culture from which it stems, and yes that means the "modern moderate Islam."

Christians used to have the same view of their religion and yet they managed to reform their religion into what you see today. Maybe it helped that the New Testament don't have as much violent passages like in the Old? I read that in the Koran the more violent verses are near the end and with some gymnastics on their abrogation principle they can claim it's a religion of peace will also claiming that later revelations, while not negating those that have come before, are still much better.

It also helped that Jesus died and did not lead an army like Mohammed. When people try to be like Jesus, they focus on his suffering. When people try to be like Mohammed...

Here is what I am talking about.  I agree with this Imam.  The other prick is typical aggressive, lying Islamist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRPzkB5mr1U

Muslims need more people like IMAM TAWHIDI.

This other prick (Jamal Rifi) is just that.  Islamic Jihadists were killing non-believers way before Islamic State existed.

But what Abrahamic faith didn't kill non believers at some point in history, on a large scale? The Crusades invalidate a claim of peace for all the Abrahamics except Judaism, and the current state of Israel Palestine reflects quite poorly on the dominate culture group, which we can all agree are the Israelis. People tend to die when a majority decides it's time to, it's the unfortunate but the way shit works here.

Now that I have said that, is see another definition for politics; codifying opinions that aren't universally popular so that they stand the test of time.

Don't bring the Crusades into this. It was a response to the Byzantines' plea for help against the Muslims chipping away at their territory. Had the help come a few decades earlier, the result would have been different. Had Muslims not been there, there would have been no reason for the crusaders to be there either. Of course it also have some sectarian and political aspects to it (crusaders realizing that the Byzantines don't really see it as a holy war).

I`m very sorry for those good and innocent people who died as a result of the explosion. Why did the police stay idle, and did not examine people entering the stadium? Cry

This was after the concert. People were all leaving the stadium. Security is more focused on making the people leave orderly. They were not checking for people coming in coz, after all, the concert was over.
sr. member
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May 31, 2017, 12:48:28 AM
I`m very sorry for those good and innocent people who died as a result of the explosion. Why did the police stay idle, and did not examine people entering the stadium? Cry
legendary
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May 31, 2017, 12:10:33 AM
This day is a terror day.  In philippines there is maute group who terrorize the southern philippines.  In UK there is a blast in arianne grande concert.  Something is wrong in this world people nowadays get crazy.

And yesterday there was an attack by the ISIS in Karrada, Iraq. Some 17 people died and many dozens were injured. And about the same time, there was another Islamist attack near al-Joura, Syria, in which more than a dozen died. There is a common link connecting all these attacks - Islam.
newbie
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May 30, 2017, 09:15:22 PM
This day is a terror day.  In philippines there is maute group who terrorize the southern philippines.  In UK there is a blast in arianne grande concert.  Something is wrong in this world people nowadays get crazy.
legendary
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May 30, 2017, 09:12:22 PM
Here is what I am talking about.  I agree with this Imam.  The other prick is typical aggressive, lying Islamist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRPzkB5mr1U

Muslims need more people like IMAM TAWHIDI.

This other prick (Jamal Rifi) is just that.  Islamic Jihadists were killing non-believers way before Islamic State existed.

But what Abrahamic faith didn't kill non believers at some point in history, on a large scale? The Crusades invalidate a claim of peace for all the Abrahamics except Judaism, and the current state of Israel Palestine reflects quite poorly on the dominate culture group, which we can all agree are the Israelis. People tend to die when a majority decides it's time to, it's the unfortunate but the way shit works here.

Now that I have said that, is see another definition for politics; codifying opinions that aren't universally popular so that they stand the test of time.

Stop this bullshit.  Don't divert the issue.

Issue is Islam and its Islamism and Jihadism that needs to be eradicated.  That is what Muslims should be concentrating on.
Not promoting Islamism and Jihadism.

You should be fucking thankful that there are some Muslims who understand the issue.  Maybe there is hope.

Diverting blame or making excuses does not help.


Man, why the fuck are you hollering at me? Wink Chill. You see a voice of consensus, I see a shill, an apologist for a belief that is mired more in fear than rational thought. They are terrorists. You have been terrorized, as member of the public. It shows.

Nah, the issue I was addressing was the blatant ass racism that I've been diplomatic about up to this point. Come the fuck on. If you think all Muslims are to blame, them take responsibility for the recent stabbing in Portland. You are American, yes? You have a dick, you are a guy, so you are just like him, yes? Better the fuck yet, you are most likely white. He was a white supremacist,  surely you are to blame?

Y'all are showing your ass.

Edit: Be rational goddamit. I apologize for yelling, I had a poor day today. We are all pissed about this. But let's not let that cloud the gestalt.
legendary
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May 30, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
Here is what I am talking about.  I agree with this Imam.  The other prick is typical aggressive, lying Islamist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRPzkB5mr1U

Muslims need more people like IMAM TAWHIDI.

This other prick (Jamal Rifi) is just that.  Islamic Jihadists were killing non-believers way before Islamic State existed.

But what Abrahamic faith didn't kill non believers at some point in history, on a large scale? The Crusades invalidate a claim of peace for all the Abrahamics except Judaism, and the current state of Israel Palestine reflects quite poorly on the dominate culture group, which we can all agree are the Israelis. People tend to die when a majority decides it's time to, it's the unfortunate but the way shit works here.

Now that I have said that, is see another definition for politics; codifying opinions that aren't universally popular so that they stand the test of time.
newbie
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May 30, 2017, 07:22:58 AM
More religious fanatics at work?
maybe they are religious fanatics, and their main goal is to encite terror in peoples minds
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