Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman on July 20 - page 2.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 23, 2019, 01:20:04 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 23, 2019, 12:20:29 PM

There is some uncertainty regarding Pacquiao's next fight. Amir Khan was about to fight against Pacquiao on November 8th. Even the venue was confirmed for this fight (Riyadh, Saudi Arabia). Now it looks like Manny has pulled out of the fight. Perhaps he think that he can get a better opponent than Amir Khan, who has remained out of the media limelight for the past 4-5 years.

First, congrats to Manny Pacquiao, truly one the best of all time, all-time-greats.

Second, he said that he will fight next year, he already had two fights this year, so I doubt that he will seek another fight in less than six months.

Third, legacy wise, it is not good for him to fight a past prime Amir Khan, doesn't look at his last fight, he should at least face him like 4-5 years ago, the hype around Amir is not there anymore as well.

The best option for Manny right now, is Errol Spence Jr/Terrence Crawford. If Manny wins either against this two he will cemented legacy and might cemented his status even greater than Floyd Mayweather, IMHO.

I’ve heard Errol Spence Jr./Terence Crawford to be the exact next that Manny Pacquaio will fight... just some humor & a slight chance to be the next. Actually I don’t know quite yet who are these 2 growing professional boxers. But looking at their record are very impressive and Errol Spence Jr is a southpaw type of boxer also... could he be the next manny pacquiao? Roll Eyes

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on July 23, 2019, 02:04:34 PM

He got kinda slow in the later rounds. I know he won this but I was wondering how many more fights he'll take before he truly decides to retire (and he had said he will several times in the past already).

Quote from: hulla on July 22, 2019, 08:38:48 PM

Oh my God! I can't believe I actually fall for it.

Can't blame you. I remember one of Pac's losing opponent got hired by a Filipino beer brand for an ad years ago.

Yes, I also saw that he somewhat slow down in the mid rounds but he says that the try not to forced to it because we all know what happened to the Marquez fight. And Thurman was throwing a lot of straight and overhand right hand that caught Manny right now the face.

This is the knock out punch that Marquez threw on him, so he just remain cautious and cruise for a comfortable win. It should be really a UD.

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He got kinda slow in the later rounds. I know he won this but I was wondering how many more fights he'll take before he truly decides to retire (and he had said he will several times in the past already).

Quote from: hulla on July 22, 2019, 08:38:48 PM

Oh my God! I can't believe I actually fall for it.

Can't blame you. I remember one of Pac's losing opponent got hired by a Filipino beer brand for an ad years ago.

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Quote from: mich on July 23, 2019, 02:19:51 AM

Well I was incorrect in my prediction and PACMAN boxed and brawled beautifully to win a controversial Split Decision

What do you mean controversial split decision mate?Manny beat Thurman truthfully and I guess only few people questioned the win since you can see on Thurman’s face the strength of the left punch by Pacquiao

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Well he announced that in 2020 there will be another fight to expect from him so basically we’re just breaking for now and wait for another months to enjoy fight again

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Quote from: zhea on July 23, 2019, 03:44:50 AM

Quote from: mich on July 23, 2019, 02:19:51 AM

Well I was incorrect in my prediction and PACMAN boxed and brawled beautifully to win a controversial Split Decision
I good time to be a Filipino boxng fan or sports fan at all as your Senator is now in control of bigger ppv fights

Controversial? Even Keith Thurman admitted that he was short in winning the fight. There was no uproar on the fans and analyst worldwide that the decision is controversial, so why say that?

You didnt get the point.Its controversial of that split decision which that one of the Judges do make a score-card which is opposing with the other 2
which its clear on whose leading when it comes to point.It might be a close fight but no doubt that Pacquiao do able to pull it out even i do see him struggling
but he showed off that age doesnt matter.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 23, 2019, 12:20:29 PM

There is some uncertainty regarding Pacquiao's next fight. Amir Khan was about to fight against Pacquiao on November 8th. Even the venue was confirmed for this fight (Riyadh, Saudi Arabia). Now it looks like Manny has pulled out of the fight. Perhaps he think that he can get a better opponent than Amir Khan, who has remained out of the media limelight for the past 4-5 years.

First, congrats to Manny Pacquiao, truly one the best of all time, all-time-greats.

Second, he said that he will fight next year, he already had two fights this year, so I doubt that he will seek another fight in less than six months.

Third, legacy wise, it is not good for him to fight a past prime Amir Khan, doesn't look at his last fight, he should at least face him like 4-5 years ago, the hype around Amir is not there anymore as well.

The best option for Manny right now, is Errol Spence Jr/Terrence Crawford. If Manny wins either against this two he will cemented legacy and might cemented his status even greater than Floyd Mayweather, IMHO.

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There is some uncertainty regarding Pacquiao's next fight. Amir Khan was about to fight against Pacquiao on November 8th. Even the venue was confirmed for this fight (Riyadh, Saudi Arabia). Now it looks like Manny has pulled out of the fight. Perhaps he think that he can get a better opponent than Amir Khan, who has remained out of the media limelight for the past 4-5 years.

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Quote from: zhea on July 23, 2019, 03:44:50 AM

Quote from: mich on July 23, 2019, 02:19:51 AM

Well I was incorrect in my prediction and PACMAN boxed and brawled beautifully to win a controversial Split Decision
I good time to be a Filipino boxng fan or sports fan at all as your Senator is now in control of bigger ppv fights

Controversial? Even Keith Thurman admitted that he was short in winning the fight. There was no uproar on the fans and analyst worldwide that the decision is controversial, so why say that?

That's the beauty of this fight since after the matched both fighters respected each other and give honest opinions about what happened inside the ring, there's no complained with what the judges decisions all went well and both fighters received respects from the fans all around the world.

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Quote from: mich on July 23, 2019, 02:19:51 AM

Well I was incorrect in my prediction and PACMAN boxed and brawled beautifully to win a controversial Split Decision
I good time to be a Filipino boxng fan or sports fan at all as your Senator is now in control of bigger ppv fights

There are fans that are shouting out that it's much better if the decision isn't split. But that's it, the fight's over and we've got to see amazing brawl by these two great fighters. The first round did created much impact for the score card. I thought that it will be followed by another knock out but it didn't happened. I'm impressed on how Thurman reacted with that fall because with other fighters, it's already going to make them feel down after falling in the very first round.

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Quote from: mich on July 23, 2019, 02:19:51 AM

Well I was incorrect in my prediction and PACMAN boxed and brawled beautifully to win a controversial Split Decision
I good time to be a Filipino boxng fan or sports fan at all as your Senator is now in control of bigger ppv fights

Controversial? Even Keith Thurman admitted that he was short in winning the fight. There was no uproar on the fans and analyst worldwide that the decision is controversial, so why say that?

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Quote from: darklus123 on July 23, 2019, 02:58:58 AM

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Did you also see the late round? Haven't you notice that he was slowing in the late rounds and Thurman is hitting more clean shots.
Manny won via SD, but the fight showed he slowed a bit and he does not have a knock out punch against a well condition fighter.

I have noticed it starting from round 4 Pacman really is slowing and it only shows that he is really not getting younger. I know it from the start that pacman will eventually slows down and will not be able to finish the fight with some astonishing KO. But comeone dude Thurman is much younger much stronger than pacman he didn't even get a knockdown score to a 40 year old boxer Grin

I agree, Pacman got tired in the later round but Thurman were not able to knock him down.
Actually I was hoping that the fight will end as I was a bit scared that Manny would be knock out in the last round since Thurman is landing some clean shots. But overall, the result is good, Manny won and I think it was fairly judge though some people disagreed with a split decision and they think it should be UD.

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Did you also see the late round? Haven't you notice that he was slowing in the late rounds and Thurman is hitting more clean shots.
Manny won via SD, but the fight showed he slowed a bit and he does not have a knock out punch against a well condition fighter.

I have noticed it starting from round 4 Pacman really is slowing and it only shows that he is really not getting younger. I know it from the start that pacman will eventually slows down and will not be able to finish the fight with some astonishing KO. But comeone dude Thurman is much younger much stronger than pacman he didn't even get a knockdown score to a 40 year old boxer Grin

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Well I was incorrect in my prediction and PACMAN boxed and brawled beautifully to win a controversial Split Decision
I good time to be a Filipino boxng fan or sports fan at all as your Senator is now in control of bigger ppv fights

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Did you also see the late round? Haven't you notice that he was slowing in the late rounds and Thurman is hitting more clean shots.
Manny won via SD, but the fight showed he slowed a bit and he does not have a knock out punch against a well condition fighter.

An ordinary fan of Manny may not see that but as a fan of the sweet science, it's very evident that Manny has slowed down in the later rounds and he seems tired but Manny said he just relaxed maybe to preserve the energy for the championship rounds.

As a fan of Manny, i would like to see him retired now. He had brought too much joy to almost all the Filipinos and we don't want something to happen to him in the future. He got hit with too many shots with the Thurman fight and it's unusual for Manny and if kept on getting hit it would be disastrous for him.

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Quote from: hulla on July 19, 2019, 04:04:56 AM

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Didn't think he was so hard up for cash already, lol. Maybe he is paid in free shawarma for life.

A fighter with huge business mind like May weather won't sign a deal of free shawarma for life cause I'm sure he will go for something more better.

LOL. It was a joke! I just don't know how else a local shawarma chain could command his salary.

Oh my God! I can't believe I actually fall for it.

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Quote from: hulla on July 19, 2019, 04:04:56 AM

A fighter with huge business mind like May weather won't sign a deal of free shawarma for life cause I'm sure he will go for something more better.

His mind may be a lot of things, but "huge" isn't one of them. The dude can barely read. He has a lot of financial managers that get a cut of every promotional deal he does, so they naturally encourage him to take everything that's thrown at him. This includes promoting soap apparently, as well as a a fraudulent ICO, for which he was eventually fined $500,000 by the SEC.

I heard about the news but I don't dive into the whole story cause such situation will definitely happen to every business which always after the fund involve which I believed was also the reason why his yet to retire.
Congratulation to all Pacman fan.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 22, 2019, 07:06:09 PM

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To all that are wishing for Manny to retire, it's sad to hear on what I've heard on the news with the reporter that's been following Manny since his day training said that "Manny's next fight will be on 2020".

That's the exact words that I've heard. I don't know if that source came from Team Pacman or it's just a rumor that has been heard and reported. Well, I'm still hopeful that he should've just retire.

I agree with you, he should retire and focus on the politics, I've read a new yesterday that Roach advises him to retire and I think this guy knows better as his been the coach of Manny for many years, he was part of Manny's success and I think he saw what we saw.

Coach Freddie Roach has been with Manny though they parted ways for a little bit of time but they've known each other better. But I think the last words will still come from Manny alone, Jinkee his wife would love to see him return and enjoy their time together with their kids.

But if it's Manny who has passion with boxing and he just can't leave it until for few more years, they are there to support. So, regardless of what will be the decision of Manny, we as fans shall support him.

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Quote from: sunsilk on July 22, 2019, 06:17:58 PM

To all that are wishing for Manny to retire, it's sad to hear on what I've heard on the news with the reporter that's been following Manny since his day training said that "Manny's next fight will be on 2020".

That's the exact words that I've heard. I don't know if that source came from Team Pacman or it's just a rumor that has been heard and reported. Well, I'm still hopeful that he should've just retire.

I agree with you, he should retire and focus on the politics, I've read a new yesterday that Roach advises him to retire and I think this guy knows better as his been the coach of Manny for many years, he was part of Manny's success and I think he saw what we saw.

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To all that are wishing for Manny to retire, it's sad to hear on what I've heard on the news with the reporter that's been following Manny since his day training said that "Manny's next fight will be on 2020".

That's the exact words that I've heard. I don't know if that source came from Team Pacman or it's just a rumor that has been heard and reported. Well, I'm still hopeful that he should've just retire.

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Quote from: yazher on July 22, 2019, 09:43:45 AM

It was satisfying win for Manny Pacquiao, judging by his age his not the same fighter as we saw 20 years ago but he still proving that age doesn't matter when it comes to boxing and once again he proved it this time. for Thurman he kept his promise buy fighting Pacquiao by toe to toe but the other promise has failed but it was a good historical fight. both fighters gave their best shot in the ring.

Well I can’t say it’s satisfying for Manny because he admitted that Thurman makes him dizzy for how many times,meaning that the young fighter can beat in good fate.
Maybe the knockout is the one that made him winner and that’s not enough for him as well.because we knew Manny wanted always KO and not split decision

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Quote from: yazher on July 22, 2019, 09:43:45 AM

It was satisfying win for Manny Pacquiao, judging by his age his not the same fighter as we saw 20 years ago but he still proving that age doesn't matter when it comes to boxing and once again he proved it this time. for Thurman he kept his promise buy fighting Pacquiao by toe to toe but the other promise has failed but it was a good historical fight. both fighters gave their best shot in the ring.

We have saying this all along, Manny Pacquiao can still fight even at age 40. But there are reports that he hurt his eye again, just like what he suffered in the Broner fight. So it got me thinking how long his body will hold. Although he is still physically fit, but we do hope that he won't end like having eye issue like Leonard.

He said he will continue to fight, the question is who is going to be next? Spence or Porter or Khan?

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