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Well maybe this time the Filipino pride needs to be mentioned continuously as Manny Pacquiao again prove to the world how great he is being a fighter

Knocking the more younger,stronger and undefeated boxer like Thurman in the first quarter of the bout is really devastating in their part since they are well prepared on this fight

And without that knockout on the first round, we all know who will gonna win at the end of that match.

It will still be Pacquiao for sure. Thurman owns a few rounds, I think that is rounds 5-9 or 5-8. Without the knockout, that would be Thurman's round so let's say he won the first round but 2nd and the following rounds favors Pacquiao. And then there is the liver punch. If there will be no knockdown in round 1, there would still be one in the next rounds since if Thurman would never be aware of that punch, he will never change his tactic.
Obviously manny dominated the whole fight,and no doubt even if they will have a rematch?thurman will never defeat Pacquiao unless having injury again just like when he fought Mayweather
Maybe Pacman dominated it but the way i see it on a few rounds and considering how many jabs landed, overall, i still see that Thurman will be the winner. Luckily they have a split decision of the judges so i can see the only reason that makes Pacman wins was that first-round knockdown.

I'm sure Thurman's team was aiming to get ready for the rematch of Pacman ASAP. I can see it on his eyes that he fail the way he talks about it on their last interview. Cheesy
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About Mayweather fight? I don't really expect too much maybe this time after manny won the fight he might retire this time now.

If you don't know Manny and Mayweather meet again before this happen is even a thing and I think it may come. Again, Mayweather getting out of his retirement and fighting Manny Pacquiao, fans want it, some analysts think it may come but still we don't know. All I know is that if Manny will be getting up again in the ring, it will be Floyd Mayweather he will be facing.
It's interest many fans and speculators as this rematch will bring a big noise back to the boxing industry, after Manny defeated Thurman it's showed up that he still have something and with the expected fight with Mayweather surely it will again bring more interested fans and gamblers to place their owned opinions and predictions.
Yes, I think he can easily fight for 3 or 4 more years, because he's still a great champion.
But everybody want to see him fighting again against Mayweather now.
He knows it and I think Mayweather knows it too. The pressure on the 2 big stars is growing, they can't avoid it. 

I really think Pacman should retire very soon. He has nothing to prove anymore. The Thurman's fight is just added bonus to his sleeves. And once again proven that age doesn't matter in this sports. If he will fight with Mayweather, it would be the same story. This guy will just count for technicalities and run for his life and not fight toe-to-toe. Time to hang up gloves Pac!

With this performance, I don't think that Manny Pacquiao will just hang up with gloves yet, not sure about the number of fights he signs, but I'm sure he will continue to fight at least one before finally retiring.

The knock down was the key to Manny and proves that he can still punch. This is not a very easy fight for him, Thurman really gave everything and try to win, but with Manny's experience he was able to fend off Thurman's aggressive and it the end that knock down was the big difference if you look at the judges scorecard.
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What a shameful fight it had been for Thurman. I don’t know which side of his face he is going to show his supporter with all the empty talks he’d given towards Pacman, and at the end, lousy and shameful. Pacman maintained his calmness and good image. A humble but competent player. I so admire him not in the way he fights but the way he responded to his opponent’s trash talks on him.
Respect to Thurman though, he got my respect.

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Yes, he is a class act, unlike other boxer that Pacman beat still claims up to this day think they have won against Manny,  Grin. It was a split decision though, I'm expecting Pacman to be the clear winner but Thurman had shine as well with his right. Congratulations to Pacman for a good performance and winning the belt.
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What a shameful fight it had been for Thurman. I don’t know which side of his face he is going to show his supporter with all the empty talks he’d given towards Pacman, and at the end, lousy and shameful. Pacman maintained his calmness and good image. A humble but competent player. I so admire him not in the way he fights but the way he responded to his opponent’s trash talks on him.
Respect to Thurman though, he got my respect.

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Hey don't forget that one month ago Pacman was still the underdog. I don't know if it was a trick of the bookmakers, or because he owns the belt or because he's younger but Thurman was the favorite.
Yes, I remember those odds were against Pacman and I think it's because that he's older and he's going against with a zero lose opponent.

Haha. I no longer know what would happen. I know I should be betting on Pac but at the same time I feel that it's only a matter of time before he lose. I'll probably just avoid this match.  Grin
Don't avoid this match, go and bet before the bookies close this match. It's exciting to see on where our money will go while watching this match but I'm betting on Pacman.

This is really an exciting match. And we will witness that in few hours from now. They both have something to prove to the boxing fans. Manny is older than Thurman so he will prove that age doesn't matter inside the ring, whereas, Thurman, the younger one, will prove that he can beat the legend...
As Thurman said that there's still a lot of youth on Pacman and all of the buzz made by Thurman was just for the show.
They've sold a lot of tickets and pay per view because of the drama that he caused. Congrats to both of them but especially to the people's champ.
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Bell ring! Round 1 start! Almost everybody thinks that Thurman's controls the fight at the early minutes since he was able to land more punches at Pacquaio. He shows aggressiveness and even cornered Pacquaio on the rope until.............. Pacquaio made some impressive counter and push forward to give Thurman a body blow plus a quick straight punch to the face which the latter didn't expect that results to a Knockout. The reason why Pacquaio got Round 1 even Thurman leads the numbers at that round.

All I can say to Pacquaio after the fight... !@#$%^&*()

Damn! 40 years old still like we are watching still in his prime. Even commentators repeatedly saying that at Pacquiao's age, he still has that "POWER" and "QUICKNESS".

An aged boxing legend that almost closed to retirement but still can manage to pulverized an undefeated boxing champion on their prime. Just imagine this prime Thurman will face the prime Pacquaio or to be fair, same age and weight to him, I'm predicting Round 3 to 5 TKO.

Pacquaio really enjoying his comfort zone being a close type fighter to the point that even his out of his prime now, his body is used to it.

Anyways, kudos to Keith Thurman for showing aggressiveness to the fight that even he's struggling (especially the blow at Round 10, that's hurt!), he tries to remain in his phase and never did such boring hugs to stop Pacquaio's attack. He exchanged punches like what a champion must show and that's what the audience wants. Overall, the fight is not boring to watch. Awesome that he even at least get back on Round 6 to 8. After some trash talks he made prior to the fight, he humbly accepts his defeat.
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Congratulations to the fighting senator, I thought that the match would end up by technical knockout after the first round but Thurman sure is undefeated and is tough enough to go through the 12 rounds. Props to him.

I really think Pacman should retire very soon. He has nothing to prove anymore.
Yes, he has nothing to prove anymore because he's rich and he has too many career to go after he leave the boxing industry. But I think he won't retire and he's still okay to find one or two more match.
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About Mayweather fight? I don't really expect too much maybe this time after manny won the fight he might retire this time now.

If you don't know Manny and Mayweather meet again before this happen is even a thing and I think it may come. Again, Mayweather getting out of his retirement and fighting Manny Pacquiao, fans want it, some analysts think it may come but still we don't know. All I know is that if Manny will be getting up again in the ring, it will be Floyd Mayweather he will be facing.
It's interest many fans and speculators as this rematch will bring a big noise back to the boxing industry, after Manny defeated Thurman it's showed up that he still have something and with the expected fight with Mayweather surely it will again bring more interested fans and gamblers to place their owned opinions and predictions.
Yes, I think he can easily fight for 3 or 4 more years, because he's still a great champion.
But everybody want to see him fighting again against Mayweather now.
He knows it and I think Mayweather knows it too. The pressure on the 2 big stars is growing, they can't avoid it.  

I really think Pacman should retire very soon. He has nothing to prove anymore. The Thurman's fight is just added bonus to his sleeves. And once again proven that age doesn't matter in this sports. If he will fight with Mayweather, it would be the same story. This guy will just count for technicalities and run for his life and not fight toe-to-toe. Time to hang up gloves Pac!
No, both Mayweather and Manny have to prove something else : they have to prove they're great fighters.
And the soul of a fighter is to fight, not just to "prove" or show his strength. If there is a big challenge they have to be up for it.
But I think you can't becoming a great champion without being a great fighter, so I have no doubt, they'll prove it.

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About Mayweather fight? I don't really expect too much maybe this time after manny won the fight he might retire this time now.

If you don't know Manny and Mayweather meet again before this happen is even a thing and I think it may come. Again, Mayweather getting out of his retirement and fighting Manny Pacquiao, fans want it, some analysts think it may come but still we don't know. All I know is that if Manny will be getting up again in the ring, it will be Floyd Mayweather he will be facing.
It's interest many fans and speculators as this rematch will bring a big noise back to the boxing industry, after Manny defeated Thurman it's showed up that he still have something and with the expected fight with Mayweather surely it will again bring more interested fans and gamblers to place their owned opinions and predictions.
Yes, I think he can easily fight for 3 or 4 more years, because he's still a great champion.
But everybody want to see him fighting again against Mayweather now.
He knows it and I think Mayweather knows it too. The pressure on the 2 big stars is growing, they can't avoid it. 

I really think Pacman should retire very soon. He has nothing to prove anymore. The Thurman's fight is just added bonus to his sleeves. And once again proven that age doesn't matter in this sports. If he will fight with Mayweather, it would be the same story. This guy will just count for technicalities and run for his life and not fight toe-to-toe. Time to hang up gloves Pac!
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What do you mean Pacquiao has a chance? Thurman is the underdog.

As the casters said, this should not even be a split decision. I agree with them since we are seeing Pacquiao retaliating whenever Thurman make a move. Also, MP owns a lot of rounds, this should not be a split decision, should be a unanimous decision. Any "balato" I can get here? Hahaha. I won against my cousin since I bet a lot to Pacquiao but that is just 500 pesos, like $9-$10
When this fight was announced, Senator Manny is the underdog but as the fight draw near, the tables turned and Thurman is the underdog. There's even a separate thread for that.


I'm not used to seeing Pacquiao fights to end in split or unanimous decision. Early 2000, we use to bet which round his contender will be knocked out, Manny's hand is indeed weary hands by now that it ended 12 rounds. Congrats to Pacquiao, he has nothing left to prove in boxing. He got it all since he had spend his youth in boxing, he should retire doing it because he is now 40.
After Hatton, Senator Manny has not knocked down any of his fighters, knocked down like what happened to Hatton but we have t understand that he moved up in different division, meaning he is fighting someone who is not the same as his weight thats why majority of his fights are catch weight.
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About Mayweather fight? I don't really expect too much maybe this time after manny won the fight he might retire this time now.

If you don't know Manny and Mayweather meet again before this happen is even a thing and I think it may come. Again, Mayweather getting out of his retirement and fighting Manny Pacquiao, fans want it, some analysts think it may come but still we don't know. All I know is that if Manny will be getting up again in the ring, it will be Floyd Mayweather he will be facing.
It's interest many fans and speculators as this rematch will bring a big noise back to the boxing industry, after Manny defeated Thurman it's showed up that he still have something and with the expected fight with Mayweather surely it will again bring more interested fans and gamblers to place their owned opinions and predictions.
Yes, I think he can easily fight for 3 or 4 more years, because he's still a great champion.
But everybody want to see him fighting again against Mayweather now.
He knows it and I think Mayweather knows it too. The pressure on the 2 big stars is growing, they can't avoid it. 
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Well maybe this time the Filipino pride needs to be mentioned continuously as Manny Pacquiao again prove to the world how great he is being a fighter

Knocking the more younger,stronger and undefeated boxer like Thurman in the first quarter of the bout is really devastating in their part since they are well prepared on this fight

And without that knockout on the first round, we all know who will gonna win at the end of that match.

It will still be Pacquiao for sure. Thurman owns a few rounds, I think that is rounds 5-9 or 5-8. Without the knockout, that would be Thurman's round so let's say he won the first round but 2nd and the following rounds favors Pacquiao. And then there is the liver punch. If there will be no knockdown in round 1, there would still be one in the next rounds since if Thurman would never be aware of that punch, he will never change his tactic.
Obviously manny dominated the whole fight,and no doubt even if they will have a rematch?thurman will never defeat Pacquiao unless having injury again just like when he fought Mayweather
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Finally it was answered what had become THURMAN's statement before competing, and PACMAN had given a good attitude as a boxer. And also PACMAN won the WBA title from THURMAN.

Yes, to many trash- talk before the fight and see what happen, knockdown in the first round. Smiley
 
Age doesn’t matter indeed, that’s what we witnessed in Pacquiao-Thurman fight, this only shows that Pacman still is very passionate in boxing and that he is not only playing for money but he is playing for his passion to boxing. Pacquiao is far more experienced that Thurman that is why Pacman has an edge over Thurman. On the other note, this should teach a lesson to Thurman not to underestimate his opponents because it will only cause him humility.

Yes, indeed that age doesn't matter especially that if you are passionate in your career and also you're right that should teach him a lesson that doesn't underestimate your opponents, especially legends like Pacman. Smiley

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Finally it was answered what had become THURMAN's statement before competing, and PACMAN had given a good attitude as a boxer. And also PACMAN won the WBA title from THURMAN.
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I think that the result of this fight is one of those cases when it is professionalism that wins over youth.  Everyone wanted to retire a forty-year-old fighter, which was constantly expressed by observers, which is ordinary in professional sports.  But Ranqiao brilliantly had a duel knocking out an opponent in the first round and this is probably a good opportunity to go on a well-deserved rest at the height of glory.
It's determination to proved that age is not the deciding factor, once a fighter always a fighter not even age Gap have a big difference Manny showed how determinated he was to win over this young Thurman, after this win he's expected to fight again not yet for any retirement talk he loves to still be here so another match to be expect from Pacman.

Age doesn't matter if you're dedicated to your passion, no matter what happens it will lead you to success. I always keep saying that even Manny Pacquiao is very old than Thurman, experiences will be your factors to win the fight. I already watch a lot of fights and concluded the same thing. If you're really gifted in that way, the experience will easily conquer those. Pacman will not give up in boxing, this is the passion he wanted, he gained all of the wealth through this.
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I think that the result of this fight is one of those cases when it is professionalism that wins over youth.  Everyone wanted to retire a forty-year-old fighter, which was constantly expressed by observers, which is ordinary in professional sports.  But Ranqiao brilliantly had a duel knocking out an opponent in the first round and this is probably a good opportunity to go on a well-deserved rest at the height of glory.
It's determination to proved that age is not the deciding factor, once a fighter always a fighter not even age Gap have a big difference Manny showed how determinated he was to win over this young Thurman, after this win he's expected to fight again not yet for any retirement talk he loves to still be here so another match to be expect from Pacman.
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That knockdown is a great factor for him to win but if that thing didnt happen i guess thurman would win this fight when it comes to point making.Its a split decision still. Im sure that thurman will ask for a rematch. Im not saying im not happy with manny's win but when it comes to performance he seems too short on his stamina yet he barely make some jabs on last few rounds due to exhaustion but still a win is a win.

I don't think that Thurman will be facing again Manny Pacquiao.

I think the first one is his surprise. Despite the fact that MP is already 40 years old, he was knocked down at the first round. We can all see that smile, like awe to what happened. He can still fight, not the same as in his prime but still, that is amazing. Another thing is that MP is old, and I know before he retires, he wants to fight other fighters like Mayweather. Also, in terms of the KO, I think Thurman will still not win but it will be a draw.

You'll never know, maybe Thurman will ask for a rematch knowing that he made badmouthed Pacquiao but he end up losing to him. Thurman underestimated Pacquiao probably because of his age but he forgot that Manny is a great boxer.
If you ever saw the post-interview of Thurman, he just said he would be happy to have a rematch with Pacman again in the future. As we can see that Thurman had a greater advantage in the fight 'cause he can flip the scorecard so easily with his advantage in the fight. But on the other hand, i think Pacman is trying to bait Thurman to fight him face to face since he just talks too much in their interview but that doesn't work since Thurman is not too good at offense just like i said before.

And without that knockout on the first round, we all know who will gonna win at the end of that match.
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Even without that knockdown, Manny still going to win. He almost dominated all rounds except in the later part where is he's tagged by right straight of Thurman. This still a good fight with both fighters not backing down and keep on pounding their gloves on each others face.

That I have to disagree with you and the judges scorecards says it otherwise. Aside from the judge scoring it in favor of Thurman the ones who scored for money only has him leading by two or three points which is just 3 rounds where if not for that knockdown like I said may go the other way around. Aside from a very close fight Thurman himself outbox Pacquiao in terms of punches landed where we usually see Pacman land two or three times more against his opponent, Thurman really showed he can fight toe-to-toe against a offensive specialist.
I agree that the knockdown played a big part and also the liver shot in Manny's win. Those who thought Manny dominated the fight should watch it again without sounds.
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Even without that knockdown, Manny still going to win. He almost dominated all rounds except in the later part where is he's tagged by right straight of Thurman. This still a good fight with both fighters not backing down and keep on pounding their gloves on each others face.

That I have to disagree with you and the judges scorecards says it otherwise. Aside from the judge scoring it in favor of Thurman the ones who scored for money only has him leading by two or three points which is just 3 rounds where if not for that knockdown like I said may go the other way around. Aside from a very close fight Thurman himself outbox Pacquiao in terms of punches landed where we usually see Pacman land two or three times more against his opponent, Thurman really showed he can fight toe-to-toe against a offensive specialist.

If you're really watching boxing. The scoreboards don't really affect the game even Manny Pacquiao dominates the score. Thurman can win the fight via unanimous decision because he is a defending champion and a holder of the title. Even Thurman landed heavy blows to Pacman that we can say It's a good fight. That's why It's good that Manny Pacquiao knocked down him in round 1 of the fight and win via split decision.
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I'm not used to seeing Pacquiao fights to end in split or unanimous decision. Early 2000, we use to bet which round his contender will be knocked out, Manny's hand is indeed weary hands by now that it ended 12 rounds. Congrats to Pacquiao, he has nothing left to prove in boxing. He got it all since he had spend his youth in boxing, he should retire doing it because he is now 40.

Well you need to consider that Manny Pacquiao is fighting top contenders at age 40 you don't expect him to have the same speed and power he has when he was on his prime. If you don't count the TKO of Lucas Matthyse his last true KO win was against Miguel Cotto which was 10 years ago after that you could see him go 12 rounds most of the time. His age is catching up but still he has defeated one of the best in his weight division and I think only a few boxers at his age can prove what he did.
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