Topic: Marco the Über Miner (Read 6051 times)

I showed you the thread (not a 'friend'), I just wanted to point it out.

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I quit this forum cause of ppl like you^^ but a friend showes me this thread.

Sums up the forum in one picture lawl. What are you guys doing with your lives.....

Candy was/is allegedly a 17 year old kid (who was quite immature) so it is plausible that the address is either his or that of someone he knows.

I had asked if anyone had any guesses as to which account candy was posting from in response to someone (correctly) pointing out that he was previously posting from bumblebeeTC.

I guess the fact that the pierre11 incident that candy and Marco played a part of is what would connect candy to this thread.

I doubt it but if it is then he was silly to get something shipped to his own house, but what does all this business with Candystripes have to do with Marco?

I wonder if that is Candy's real address.

I am sorry , I was the first one who bring this up, and this trade seems suspicious.
At least we all know candy provides your address for his loan request.

And probably we need an explanation about this trade
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/h-bitcoin-want-purchase-done-with-credit-card-canada-only-764840

Hmmm. Well it looks like that Candy had not posted on Turtle's currency exchange thread ever, nor did any of his alts exchange trust with him.

Candy had posted that address more then two months prior to receiving negative trust from BadBear and over a month prior to receiving negative trust on the Thoughtful account.

Candy had tried to extort someone in the currency exchange section, and he told me who he tried to extort to one of my alts, however I forget who it was, however I don't think it was turtle hurricane.

Candy certainly did receive the loan via 6d46a6f2c65758de96c9d5fc625fdb1a52344110436e69afd87effaf4ee67613 and he apparently paid it back via 2106b6dbf95134288bf180c016a0793452eeca44e859aa2fdb92827b4fa6d931 however the txid that repaid the loan was a coinjoin transaction and turtle's address does not have any spent transactions in the relevant time period. This does not mean that he didn't use other funds that he controlled to repay the loan. Turtle has a lot of transactions in the same address and has other addresses that are spend linked together. I will want to look at this more closely in the morning.

Turtle and Candy have very different writing styles and very different maturity levels. Although it would be possible that Candy paid ~$6 in order to impersonate turtle, I would find it somewhat unlikely.

I have confirmed the addresses in the quotes are in fact accurate.

I will continue to consider the evidence, will PM turtle hurricane requesting him to post an explanation, and will solicit additional evidence either way. I will leave a neutral rating for now, however the lack of a reasonable explanation and/or more credible evidence against turtle would most likely result in a negative rating against him.

Candystripes = turtlehurricane ?
https://archive.is/F2J7m

Do you happen to have any guesses as to what CandyStripes's new account(s) is/are, mr anon?

A source of mine told me this and I have seen this posted elsewhere as well. BumbleBeeTC does seem to have similar interests as Candystripes, however there does not appear to be any blockchain evidence linking the account to Candy.

Does anyone have evidence to back this up?

His new account is BumbleBeeTC
If you don't believe me, fine, don't believe me. But that's his new account. He has told me personally.

--End post, no more posts on this account for now.

Seriously, anshar is not marcotheminer right?
Any proof for your suspicion?

There has been one guess, one user has pointed out one account is selling the same book that candy is claiming that he wrote himself on moneypot.
However, there hasn't been a screenshot, so this is not definitive proof.

Badbear had been tagging all of Candy's accounts as he had been creating and buying them. Unfortunately he is away (hopefully) temporarily so he isn't tagging additional of his accounts.

I don't think he is doing any significant amount of business if he has purchased an account as I haven't seen anyone with the kind of offers that candy tends to offer. 

Speaking of which, any guesses to what Candy's current account is?

Most people buy forum accounts to participate in a signature campaign, earning more money in the long run. They see accounts as a form of investment.

However, some dishonest people use bought accounts to scam.

why would someone buy a forum account ?)

It's already been brought up and looked into by BadBear and looks likely he sold that account as Marco has claimed elsewhere.

I guess Marco was unbanned because DeboraMeeks is very active in the speculation board today
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/deborameeks-167181

Candy and Marco the Royal couple? Ewww.

Are you saying that Candystripes and Marcotheminer are like the king and the queen of this hidden empire?

I don't think so.

The howzar Marcotheminer saga started in May 2014 when howzar was banned for sending unsolicited PM's attempting to purchase bitcointalk.org forum accounts. At the time he was running the luckyb.it signature campaign, but was a very bad campaign manger.

Howzar even had an anti spam rule saying: "** I WILL ONLY CHOOSE MEMBERS WHICH I DEEM ARE NOT SHILL ACCOUNTS **". His own shill account however was enrolled as indicated by both howzar, and the owner of luckyb.it once howzar was relieved of his duty. He received payment here. Luckily Howzar was quickly banned and relieved of his duty of managing the luckyb.it signature campaign.

Fast forward to today, and Marcotheminer has gotten banned one more time. Him managing bit-x has not changed anything. He made a lot of mistakes very early on. His very first enrollee, got payment for 111 posts when he only made 63 posts as a full member. (username...transaction identifier).  

Strangely enough, an account called marcoman22 made well in excess of the 50 required posts however it received zero from marcotheminer.

Fast forward to today, you will see that macotheminer has been playing reckless with money right from the start. He is using an online computer to store in excess of 20 BTC and using an online wallet that has had a number of security issues, so many security issues that it is not even listed on bitcoin.org.

Marcotheminer even paid some people that should not have been paid. Out of laziness, incompetence, or both he failed to exclude posts in the games and rounds and local boards sections. He gave payment to troleybüs who only made 36 posts, but was paid for more then 50.

Marcotheminer is breaking his own rule
Marcotheminer received valid negative trust from BadBear for trafficking in stolen accounts and has been banned from bitcointalk but I have not seen any official announcement that he will kick himself out of his campaign, I do see that he paid himself when he should not have been paid.

This is not the first time that Marcotheminer has been banned. His previous ban was for sending unsolicited PM's asking to buy their accounts. If you do not know how Mobo is the same as Marco then you will just have to wait

More people seem to find it very odd that bit-x is trusting marcotheminer with so much money. This is part of what was received by a very prominent member of the forum


Coming very soon:
Part 5: marcotheminer's alts: spammed beyond belief

Still doesn't answer my question:
Why don't you talk using your main account? I won't judge your obsession for me (or envy or jealousy)

I am neither, nor have I ever been, Spoderman nor BlTCOlN.

Who said I am PistolPete? It is everyday that you are making new enemies! I am glad to see that the infamous marcotheminer finally responded, are you going to deny any of these claims? Or shall you admit to your questionable ethics?

Mr. marcotheminer, how many of your alt accounts has defaulted on loans from others? Be sure not to lie because I already know about several of them.

Comming soon:
Part 4: Banned:Marco the signature campaign spammer: A look at past and present campaign "mistakes" as well as Marco's previous bans
Part 5: marcotheminer's alts: spammed beyond belief

So pistolpete is using a new account now? Why don't you talk using your main account? I won't judge your obsession for me (or envy or jealousy) . By the way, that screenshot looks old.

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The story

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So, this story starts when the guy behind DiceBitco.in disappeared and Bitcoininformaton (now Mitchełł) and Dooglus had to take over their signature campaign. The first thread was opened by Bitcoininformation and can be found here.

At the start of the thread Marco starting asking Bitcoininformation if he could change the signature, even though the rules of the campaign that we had to finish clearly stated that this was prohibited. This rule was enforced by Bitcoininformation and Dooglus, because rules are rules. After that he started asking (forcing) them to pay out right now, because he thought that was the way to go. Well, bad luck for him, because they had to continue the campaign (which Bitcoininformation later stated again in this post. That is what their escrow contracts said and what was asked from them. He was also expecting to be paid for his 350 "constructive" posts, even though the maximum limit is 200. DiceBitco.in said that people who posted more than 200, might be paid out for those extra posts, but this was a case-by-case thing and, well, they weren't DiceBitco.in.

After 1 day Bitcoininformation decided that he will payout, so that people have a chance to leave + the first ten days were over. He paid everyone (even those who dropped out/changed their signature/etc), that have a positive post count. Dooglus took over and created another thread for that, which can be found here.


Now things are getting more interesting. Marco started to suddenly have a soul. His opinion was that stating in this signature campaign was unethical, because they were scamming users and was very firm about this. After which shorena revealed that Marco had two (!) campaigns in his signature, even though this was prohibited. He defended himself by seeing it didn't matter because it wasn't visible. Who is unethical now?

So, that was my part of the campaign, Dooglus has taken over and Marco kept him mouth shut. So, this was the tale of DiceBitco.in and Ma... No wait, there is something else, of course. 13 days after Marco left he created this topic. He wanted to rent his signature to someone and had the following slogan (which was removed, because Bitcoininformation told him it was incorrect):


Of course Bitcoininformation said something about that, because this was untrue. (Remember, he paid everyone, no matter what). So, he was lying (being unethical) once again.

This was everything I have to say about Marco. Just so you know, Marco has a -8 on BitcoinTalk++ (an extension made by JackJack that let's users vote on other users and adds a lot of extra features, you should use it, it's great). So he might be "trusted", but he is not liked.

http://puu.sh/gdgp1/e4ae436317.png


Everything about Marco, except his history of begging on just-dice, and history of taking out gambling loans, but those will be the next chapters in this saga

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This is an extension of PistolPete's series
Part 1: Spammathon: Brought to you by Candystripes (or was it Marco all along)
Part 2: Whatever Happened to Pierre11?
Part 3: Marco the account thief

Personally, I would never add anyone to my trust list who explicitly asked. I can't really see a valid reason for such a request.

Do you think he wanted to be put on your trust list so he could give his own accounts positive trust?

He has a very strange (and known) criteria for deciding who to lend to, do you think he is lending money to himself?

Marco was pushing pretty hard for me to add him to my Trust list, and this all makes perfect sense now. Mind you, having multiple accounts is not against forum rules.

Another new thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--923758

Marco is working hard, even posted in his campaign thread yesterday through ValueAccounts by mistake before swiftly deleting it.

Moving it to Scam Accusations temporarily.

Yea I am pretty sure those multiple threads are against the rules (duplicate threads) as he is selling the exact same thing in the thread in his signature.

I would also say that him posting in his own thread would essentially be a duplicate bump.

There has been a significant increase in the activity of ValueAccounts which has started creating multiple threads in addition to offering discounts. The account has been referencing Marco's campaign's rates and the new advertsing strategy of unlimited pay.

This coincides with Marco making a similar pitch offering unlimited pay. Marco has been posting this info in account selling threads.

I will leave it to the readers to decide what the reason might be for the sudden urgency.

I've seen him quite a few times around here on these forums. IMHO he seems like a pretty reasonable and trusted guy. I admit this isn't the only account I have here too. I just registered another account a few days ago to announce the new website that I'm launching and to answer queries, etc. I know it seems a bit shifty, especially if someone has 10+ accounts, but it's not against the forum rules to have multiple accounts.

I can verify the validity of some of PistolPete's claims. Marco has questionable ethics, despite having huge amounts of green trust.

Maybe I'll spew some more dirt when I have more time.

Mate you have a lot of free time to stalk all these different accounts holy shit.

He is engaging in activity which I feel may fall under spamming, but BadBear hasn't taken any action.

The dishonest part would be advising Candy to deceive the community.

Ah I see. Well, I guess as long as he isn't spamming with the account then it isn't really dishonest and not breaking any forum rules

That is my arguement. He is not being accused of breaking any forum rules. I think the "scam" he is being accused of is account farming/selling, which is not seen as bad in many people's eyes as it once was.

Although some of the accounts do have somewhat poor quality posts so that may be a concern (I remember the last time the op made a thread about him, very noob level questions were being asked

If you are speaking of MikeCorleone, then that particular event happened before it came to Marco.

There are lots of other accounts which I think are Marco's but they are not as clear so I left them out. None of them have been giving or were given trust by Marco recently. It would be fooilsh on Marco's part to do so in case someone had kept an eye on his lending thread.

But rules a user makes are not forum rules. People can make up whatever rules they wish for giveaways or signature campaigns but they're not enforceable by anyone other than themselves. I'm not sure what the op is accusing him of apart from behaviour he finds questionable.

I am pretty sure bpb had a rule of one per person. I agree though it is questionable but not quite a scam. I think the OP is accusing him of scamming though.

Nah. Some may find such behaviour questionable but it's not a scam nor is it against any forum rules.

So he's been giving his alt accounts positive trust? That's kind of dishonest 

Somewhat dangerous getting so much positive feedback for running a signature campaign with this kind of activity.

The giveaway might be considered to be a scam. Hard to say though

Whatever he has done is according to the rules as far as I can tell. The only slip was caught by Shorena and Marco is negged for that.

I doubt he is planning a scam. He probably has more to gain by staying here.

This should probably be in scam accusacations

Bob's giveaway was a honeypot which attracted all the sockpuppets. A careful analysis will lead you to lots of spiders at the centre of their webs. For instance, do you see a lot of low ranking accounts which get activated during a giveaway (and come backs again in the PD one). Does moko666 and Zawarniya look the same to you? Maybe Stedsm and chaosknight belong to Marco? Sink you teeth and have your fill - they are all present there.

This completes the third part of my series
Part 1: Spammathon: Brought to you by Candystripes
Part 2: Whatever Happened to Pierre11?
I would thank some fellow members who had given bits of info.
Any tips, be it a juicy story, some interesting suspicion or Bits of Coin is welcome

Our guest writer has added his own.

I can hear you asking - why would Bob be so extra generous with Marco? Well, Marco wore different faces in the giveaway, once it was fathur01, while at other times it was nizamcc, anshar, yeponlyone, TrollboxChamp, DeboraMeeks, nor9865, MikeCorleone, 2double0 and my favourite pierre11.

Most of these came to Marco in exchange for some loans which were conveniently forgotten, the others came from his 'buddy' like Candystripes (notably pierre11 and nor9865). He is usually a discreet person and hence prefers to delete the loan transaction posts, and so only a few small trails remain here and there to indicate Marco's hidden empire.

You know what fathur01, nizamcc, anshar, yeponlyone, TrollboxChamp, DeboraMeeks, nor9865 and 2double0 have in common? Their last post was on Jan 3rd, the one before on Dec 21 or Dec 15. Going back we find post number 3 is on Dec 3! and before that is our Bob's giveaway on Nov 23rd. You can go back even further and see how Marco has been collecting activity points for his non enrolled accounts.

anshar followed a slightly different path as it was enrolled in Nov, but it fell back in line when it couldn't get in
MikeCorleone is having a tough time joining the others, and its trust rating is not helping either due the perils of publicity.

If you want any of these accounts, or the numerous more which Marco has carefully collected and are enrolled in campaigns, ask ValueAccounts. He is offering a wonderful deal where he commits to beating the price provided by any other seller!

Don't feel bad for the accounts not in campaigns, they did their part to fill Marco's deposit box thanks largely to the biggest mixing company we have. Bitmixer used to have a heart of gold and paid anybody who took the effort of carrying their signature. Those days are now gone but a few of the accounts still carry the signature out of loyalty.

Bitmixer's was the signature which Marco forgot to remove, and was caught by Shorena who very unfairly didn't accept Marco's excuse and negged him. Our boy Marco was understandably furious and rightly retaliated. Marco has come a long way since that day and now glows deep green - its only a matter of time he becomes highly trusted and Shorena starts displaying the red warning.

Lets join in congratulating Marco on becoming Hero Member, his roots have spread far and wide, nourishing and nurturing the bitcointalk ecosystem.

Mining is such a fool's errand. We have been spinning up our Spondoolies and hashing away at Hashie, all the while hoping that difficulty and price moves opposite ways. Not for all of us; our Hero member, lender, trader, manager, escrower, advertiser marcotheminer has a different take on mining. Instead of wasting money on hardware, Marco utilises the array of opportunities provided by bitcointalk to stay in the black.

You have heard of BiPolarBob, rich, eccentric, kind hearted, Bob. Bob had a Starbucks giveaway which a lot of us missed, including Marco.
Bob had another incredible 0.02 BTC giveaway and while I again missed this one, Marco was right on the spot. Marco loved the giveaway so much he couldn't help coming back for more and he collected a minimum of 10 times!

Did Bob know about this? Why would we think he did? Right after the generous giveaway, Bob requested a loan from Marco, but unfortunately couldn't get an escrow for the box of mandarin oranges.