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newbie
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I do NOT recommend anyone to buy anything from this developer.

I bought the unlimited edition just a couple of weeks ago FOR 249 USD (my decision was based on their false claims) and all I can have now is just 6 month of supported product. I mean... seriously?

Yes maybe "lifetime support" doesn't literally mean lifetime, but when I invested I chose this product and paid for it based on that information - to get at least 1, maybe 2-3 years of supported product.

What I've got instead, is 6 month of supported product for $249. Integrity? Anyone? You do what, when and how you want and that's ok for you. What you promised just a couple weeks ago is now... well, not valid. You guys lied to me. 

jr. member
Activity: 253
Merit: 4
BTC has been on the rise since 7:30 last night, I am wondering if it is the market or just the full moon effect? Tuning Bollinger Band for the Forex market seems to work better, there should be a book written called "Standard Deviation 3 can be your friend!"  Cheesy Wink
newbie
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Hi,

can you please explain what is happening here? (Bollinger Band Bot)
https://ibb.co/cu3nLx

What is the difference between bid/ask and actual rate? Why the bot sets a lower price for sell than the current market price and a higher for buy?  Finally we have profit, but I'm trying to understand the concept..
I also noticed the same behavior in other pairs (always BB)..

I also include part of the log file:

Code:
INFO      @1519910977712 03/01 03:29:37 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : order book updated
DEBUG     @1519910978024 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : [Method:public/getorderbook (params: &type=buy) ]
DEBUG     @1519910978087 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:db:RDD/BTC] : querying trade list
DEBUG     @1519910978228 03/01 03:29:38 pm [system] : heart is beating ...
DEBUG     @1519910978228 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:db:RDD/BTC] : received new trade list with 100 entries
DEBUG     @1519910978228 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:db:RDD/BTC] : simplifying data base
DEBUG     @1519910978399 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:db:RDD/BTC] : querying trade list
DEBUG     @1519910978555 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:db:RDD/BTC] : received new trade list with 100 entries
DEBUG     @1519910978555 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:db:RDD/BTC] : simplifying data base
DEBUG     @1519910978883 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : received order book with 500 asks and 87 bids
IMPORTANT @1519910978883 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : using order-book's lowest bid price: 0.00000001 BTC
IMPORTANT @1519910978883 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : market restricts the minimum total of trades, so the lowest price possible must be estimated
IMPORTANT @1519910978883 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : the computed 'low' price results in a too low trade total. Using higher price to not violate min-trade-total defined by the market
WARN      @1519910978883 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : placing sell order: 2000 RDD @0.00000025 BTC
DEBUG     @1519910978883 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : [Method:market/selllimit (params: &rate=0.00000025&quantity=2000) ]
DEBUG     @1519910978900 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : received order book
INFO      @1519910978900 03/01 03:29:38 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : order book updated
DEBUG     @1519910979228 03/01 03:29:39 pm [system] : heart is beating ...
DEBUG     @1519910980227 03/01 03:29:40 pm [system] : heart is beating ...
DEBUG     @1519910980243 03/01 03:29:40 pm [bittrex] : [Method:account/getorder (params: uuid=c22bbc2e-0255-436b-b90e-b58728f1a75f) ]
INFO      @1519910980618 03/01 03:29:40 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : order went through directly
DEBUG     @1519910981227 03/01 03:29:41 pm [system] : heart is beating ...
DEBUG     @1519910981618 03/01 03:29:41 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : using order-to-trade-association to get infor about the order's completion state
DEBUG     @1519910981618 03/01 03:29:41 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : getOrderCompletionInfo: order: id: 338 amount: 2000
DEBUG     @1519910981618 03/01 03:29:41 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : [Method:account/getorderhistory (params: ) ]
DEBUG     @1519910981868 03/01 03:29:41 pm [bittrex] : [Method:account/getorder (params: uuid=c22bbc2e-0255-436b-b90e-b58728f1a75f) ]
DEBUG     @1519910982180 03/01 03:29:42 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : [Method:market/getopenorders (params: ) ]
DEBUG     @1519910982227 03/01 03:29:42 pm [system] : heart is beating ...
DEBUG     @1519910982493 03/01 03:29:42 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : matched trades num: 1 sum: 2000
INFO      @1519910982493 03/01 03:29:42 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : found all associated trades with order 338 (order is filled)
DEBUG     @1519910982493 03/01 03:29:42 pm [bittrex] : [Method:account/getbalances (params: ) ]
DEBUG     @1519910982493 03/01 03:29:42 pm [bittrex:RDD/BTC] : received 4 completed orders

Thanks!
member
Activity: 132
Merit: 10
There is a problem with Leonardo and Bittrex.
I dont know whos to blame but the fact is that Leonardo stops communicating with Bittrex after awhile.

The only option is to restart Leonardo and with that take the risk that any running bots might stop altogether and have to be restarted...
The problem with that is that when bots are in sell mode and lose the eff min gain % setting which makes it unsuitable to be restarted because in a downtrend market like now means a loss sell guaranteed.\
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
Will you make big updates on Leonardo before the change? I would like to have at least Fib retracement tool and Trailing Stop loss if possible. If you're kind enough to let us experience big updates on Leonardo before the transition we'd greatly appreciate it Cheesy

Thanks Devs Smiley
P.S. Don't worry if I tend to earn enough with Leonardo then I'll consider the Subscription based model Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
I wish I kept my Bitcoin instead of buying this bot. I would have made more money in the long term just holding BTC instead of now having to pay more for monthly subscriptions! I'm not going to put any more money into this. It was also difficult to learn without clear step by step tutorials on how to get started and see it making a profit.

Would you mind to share your strategy for trading in profit? Cause so far I am in minus.
member
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Everything I say is in My Opinion Only!
I wish I kept my Bitcoin instead of buying this bot. I would have made more money in the long term just holding BTC instead of now having to pay more for monthly subscriptions! I'm not going to put any more money into this. It was also difficult to learn without clear step by step tutorials on how to get started and see it making a profit.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
Hey guys, what does avoid order replacement [%] mean? Don't get it at all...  Huh
With mArgin maker the bot can adjust the amount of the current order. If the order is outside the margin line and the percentages is greater than what you have filled in (default .1%) the order will be canceled and replaced provided there are enough funds.

khm... thank u for the answer, but I don't get it... which order will be cancelled? Sell or Buy? Isn't it what Min. effective gain does?
newbie
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Merit: 0
Hello, i understand why you guys have to change the payment method. It is not something I like, but it is understandable since you guys have to grow and still make money. I got a few questions:

- can you pay for 1 month? Or does it have to be a year, and if so do you have to pay for a full year? Since i only invest small amounts of money and if i have to pay 180 a year i wouldn't like that.

- will you guys make a stoploss setting for just the manual sell orders? I think that would be very helpful.


Thijs
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1064
Bitcoin is antisemitic
Good question. The discount is associated with your account so once you sign up initially within a month this feature is activated. A break is then possible without penalties.

Best wishes,
Jonathan

How to subscribe to the new offer with discount?
On the website there is still the old offer.
jr. member
Activity: 253
Merit: 4
Hey guys, what does avoid order replacement [%] mean? Don't get it at all...  Huh
With mArgin maker the bot can adjust the amount of the current order. If the order is outside the margin line and the percentages is greater than what you have filled in (default .1%) the order will be canceled and replaced provided there are enough funds.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
Hey guys, what does avoid order replacement [%] mean? Don't get it at all...  Huh
jr. member
Activity: 253
Merit: 4
I really like the spot buy and sell available with the Bollinger Band strategy. Unless the pair is actually purchased your funds remain available for other strategies. Until I set them up for myself I was unaware how many times I could leverage the available funds because of spot buys. Probably getting better coverage on Binance with 1/3 the funding using Bollinger Band than I am mArgin maker on Bittrex. It wasn't until the last pair I setup that I used the strategy copy function, geeze. Actually got to see the red (!) when adding pairs (about three hours ago). So much fun so little time!  Now if we could only get a slight undulation in the market. Grin
newbie
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Guys, majority of software developers are switching to the subscription model. I don't know anyone who switched are giving away unlimited subscription to existing customers.


I do not think you are correct. Majority of soft is under lifetime licence. Even Microsoft. The subscribtion model is used largely by  those who need to add changes on every day bases, like antivirus products, where virus signuatures must be updated day-by-day. Leonardo is not such kind of product. It is just good terminal for traders  , nothing more, as modern bots available on market  are using AI and far ahead of Leonardo's bots

I would suggest to leave lifetime licence but increase the price for one instance (market) , say by 10 times for new customers and/or new instances( market/s) for old customers

Not all software, but many of them. I never needed subscription model for Adobe Lightroom but they forced it. Same for MS Office suits (kinda forced me to switch to Google docs at the end). I can name couple more but I guess that's pointless. All software need updates to keep up with new features and bug fixes - that require $$.

If Leonardo is a mature product that froze any new features, then I understand. But I can see that it is a rapidly developing product, at least for now.

Also, Leonardo appears to be initially developed as a terminal app, trying to expand towards scopes of bots. It's not quite there yet (I am currently using both Leonardo and Profit Trailer). But even the developers have admitted that this is the case and they intend to work on this. IMO, Leonardo is a nice product to use in conjunction with other bots to "debug" parameters for the bots. With the market fluctuation, I find that it is hard to figure out the right parameters for the bots without visualizing what it is doing. I would love to see Leonardo integrate more sophisticated bot features built in so that I can visually confirm all the moves made by the bots. I would call it a bot IDE/debugger. Smiley

In terms of complexity of development, I can't really say Leonardo is any easier (less effort?) product to develop than bots. But I agree, most of the bots out there are more sophisticated at the moment.

Again, my 2c.
legendary
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Edit: As a leonArdo customer you will also be entitled to a 50% discount on all future margin terminal subscription payments. The offer will kick in if you sign up for a subscription within a month of your free period ending.

Too bad we couldn't stay on with free lifetime subscription and only charge subscription fees to new customers, but I understand the subscription fee might become inaccessible in that case. I'm not unhappy with $15/mo for the standard plan (with discount), I just hope it doesn't go up later.

Do we have to keep a continuous subscription for the 50% discount? Can I pay for one month subscription, take a 1 year break, and still pay the discounted rate when I come back?

Good question. The discount is associated with your account so once you sign up initially within a month this feature is activated. A break is then possible without penalties.

Best wishes,
Jonathan
legendary
Activity: 1988
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I am disappointed with this announcement.

Leonardo/Margin will not fit my needs anymore as a very small investor. Sad
Its a shame I really liked it and will continue using Leonardo until it stops working altogether.

Same. This totally feels like a bait and switch. Extremely disappointing especially considering that the plan offered to "hero" customers seems like an afterthought.

This is a joke right?

We listen to our customers and then make an offer and you also don't like that!!


If you want to charge NEW customers more money, or per month I see nothing wrong with that.

You're existing customers paid up front for your Lifetime Licence with free updates.  They should not be subject to ANY switch and bait subscription fees tacked in after the sale.

When we paid up front for your "Lifetime License with free upgrades" we didn't agree to any additional charges that amount to $180 PER YEAR (with major restrictions in use), $348 PER YEAR (with restricted use) or $2,388 PER YEAR (unrestricted).

All Subscription fees should be PERMANENTLY waived for pre-existing customers that already paid for their Lifetime License fees. If you want to adopt a new pricing. Then it should ONLY be for future customers that didn't already pay for their lifetime license agreement.

Otherwise, If you can't honor your side of our legally binding contract. I would like a 100% refund without question.

You are absolutely right on your comment TOPBILL !!

Imagine those idiots who bought Ultra-lifetime license just a few weeks ago.
I'm one of them. Angry

Some of us, also bought equipment to run leoNardo, like pc, raspbery etc

But don't worry, Mr Jonathan says we can keep leoNardo for life...without exchanges API updates or any kind of support. Shocked

...and use it for what ? Trading with my dog ?

Maybe all this time, we were beta testers for the new margin software. Not paid but paying beta testers.

I'm buying software and scripts more than 20 years, never saw such a business tactic before for already customers.



Support continues for leonArdo customers so I don't know what you are talking about there?

Which software did you buy 20 years ago that you continue to get updates for and haven't paid a penny for since? Would love to know!

Existing customers get a pretty good deal in our opinion.  
newbie
Activity: 61
Merit: 0
I am disappointed with this announcement.

Leonardo/Margin will not fit my needs anymore as a very small investor. Sad
Its a shame I really liked it and will continue using Leonardo until it stops working altogether.

Same. This totally feels like a bait and switch. Extremely disappointing especially considering that the plan offered to "hero" customers seems like an afterthought.

This is a joke right?

We listen to our customers and then make an offer and you also don't like that!!


If you want to charge NEW customers more money, or per month I see nothing wrong with that.

You're existing customers paid up front for your Lifetime Licence with free updates.  They should not be subject to ANY switch and bait subscription fees tacked in after the sale.

When we paid up front for your "Lifetime License with free upgrades" we didn't agree to any additional charges that amount to $180 PER YEAR (with major restrictions in use), $348 PER YEAR (with restricted use) or $2,388 PER YEAR (unrestricted).

All Subscription fees should be PERMANENTLY waived for pre-existing customers that already paid for their Lifetime License fees. If you want to adopt a new pricing. Then it should ONLY be for future customers that didn't already pay for their lifetime license agreement.

Otherwise, If you can't honor your side of our legally binding contract. I would like a 100% refund without question.

You are absolutely right on your comment TOPBILL !!

Imagine those idiots who bought Ultra-lifetime license just a few weeks ago.
I'm one of them. Angry

Some of us, also bought equipment to run leoNardo, like pc, raspbery etc

But don't worry, Mr Jonathan says we can keep leoNardo for life...without exchanges API updates or any kind of support. Shocked

...and use it for what ? Trading with my dog ?

Maybe all this time, we were beta testers for the new margin software. Not paid but paying beta testers.

I'm buying software and scripts more than 20 years, never saw such a business tactic before for already customers.

hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 635
Guys, majority of software developers are switching to the subscription model. I don't know anyone who switched are giving away unlimited subscription to existing customers.


I do not think you are correct. Majority of soft is under lifetime licence. Even Microsoft. The subscribtion model is used largely by  those who need to add changes on every day bases, like antivirus products, where virus signuatures must be updated day-by-day. Leonardo is not such kind of product. It is just good terminal for traders  , nothing more, as modern bots available on market  are using AI and far ahead of Leonardo's bots

I would suggest to leave lifetime licence but increase the price for one instance (market) , say by 10 times for new customers and/or new instances( market/s) for old customers
jr. member
Activity: 253
Merit: 4
Hey guys, I went through some of the pages.. and could not find the answer to the issue I am having. (I thought I fixed it, but looks like not fully fixed it)

I am trading on Binance and here what I get:

Code:
02/27 06:39:52 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] waiting for recovery finished. Transitioning back
02/27 06:39:52 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] transition to "replacing order"
02/27 06:39:53 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] transition to "creating sell order"
02/27 06:39:54 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] placing order sell 30 BCPT @0.00014959 BTC
02/27 06:39:54 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] transition to "waiting for order to be placed"
02/27 06:39:54 pm binance:BCPT/BTC: [Method:place_order (params: symbol=BCPTBTC&side=SELL&type=LIMIT&timeInForce=GTC&quantity=30&price=0.00014959) ] error in DefaultMarketInterface::httpPOST: network error: [http code: 400(Bad Request)]: ProtocolInvalidOperation (the requested operation is invalid for this protocol) (try 1 of 10), message received: {"code":-2010,"msg":"Account has insufficient balance for requested action."}
02/27 06:39:54 pm binance:BCPT/BTC: Successfully handled httpPost error: recovered document: -{
  "code" : -2010,
  "msg" : "Account has insufficient balance for requested action."
}
-
02/27 06:39:54 pm binance:BCPT/BTC: order could not be placed (error while requesting place_order: Message: "Account has insufficient balance for requested action." (Code: -2010))
02/27 06:39:55 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] an exception occured while the bot was running :'order could not be placed'
02/27 06:39:55 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] error recovery mode for [placing-failed] active: will try to recover 5 minutes ...
02/27 06:39:55 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] transition to "error occurred waiting for reinitialization"

I was getting this error first on all pairs when I had Using BNB to pay for fees On, but I switched it off and then it seems to work fine, but then BNBBTC kinda got stuck on  placing the sale order and then from there I started to get this error message again. Please advice, why is this happening?

I have Using BNB to pay for fees is off now, nut still getting this error on some pairs, some not... which does not make any scene to me. I really love this software, but I spent almost 8 hours, trying to figure out how to fix problems, which I wasn't aware before purchasing...  Undecided

Ugg, sounds like one for support. Send them the log and a screenshot. [email protected]

I have been trading that pair all day with 3 bots and BNB turned on (I am also trading BNB).

First of all make sure you have enough BNB to cover the transaction fee, secondly never trade with all your BNB it may not be there when you need it and mess with everything. Mine looks like this 4 of those BNB are in reserve.


Ahh! See you figured it out!  Grin
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
Hey guys, I went through some of the pages.. and could not find the answer to the issue I am having. (I thought I fixed it, but looks like not fully fixed it)

I am trading on Binance and here what I get:

Code:
02/27 06:39:52 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] waiting for recovery finished. Transitioning back
02/27 06:39:52 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] transition to "replacing order"
02/27 06:39:53 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] transition to "creating sell order"
02/27 06:39:54 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] placing order sell 30 BCPT @0.00014959 BTC
02/27 06:39:54 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] transition to "waiting for order to be placed"
02/27 06:39:54 pm binance:BCPT/BTC: [Method:place_order (params: symbol=BCPTBTC&side=SELL&type=LIMIT&timeInForce=GTC&quantity=30&price=0.00014959) ] error in DefaultMarketInterface::httpPOST: network error: [http code: 400(Bad Request)]: ProtocolInvalidOperation (the requested operation is invalid for this protocol) (try 1 of 10), message received: {"code":-2010,"msg":"Account has insufficient balance for requested action."}
02/27 06:39:54 pm binance:BCPT/BTC: Successfully handled httpPost error: recovered document: -{
  "code" : -2010,
  "msg" : "Account has insufficient balance for requested action."
}
-
02/27 06:39:54 pm binance:BCPT/BTC: order could not be placed (error while requesting place_order: Message: "Account has insufficient balance for requested action." (Code: -2010))
02/27 06:39:55 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] an exception occured while the bot was running :'order could not be placed'
02/27 06:39:55 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] error recovery mode for [placing-failed] active: will try to recover 5 minutes ...
02/27 06:39:55 pm binance:bot:BCPT/BTC: [strategy-9] transition to "error occurred waiting for reinitialization"

I was getting this error first on all pairs when I had Using BNB to pay for fees On, but I switched it off and then it seems to work fine, but then BNBBTC kinda got stuck on  placing the sale order and then from there I started to get this error message again. Please advice, why is this happening?

I have Using BNB to pay for fees is off now, nut still getting this error on some pairs, some not... which does not make any scene to me. I really love this software, but I spent almost 8 hours, trying to figure out how to fix problems, which I wasn't aware before purchasing...  Undecided


I guess... I will answer that question myself... so in order to trade without any issues on binance, you will have to purchase some bnb and do not trade bnb/btc pair (if anyone trading on bnbbtc, please let me know if it goes fine, beacause I really like this pair).
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