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Quote from: Silberman on May 26, 2023, 04:32:21 AM

Quote from: jeraldskie11 on May 26, 2023, 12:04:04 AM

It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.

Well, it is easy to look like a genius when the market is doing nothing but to go up, during those moments everyone seems to be obtaining profits, however as we know such a state cannot be maintained for long and at some point a crash follows, it is at those moments when you can see who is really good and who was just being carried away by the bull market, and when all is said and done you can see the majority of the traders on the market were never as good as they thought they were.

Such is the reality that when the market is rising there will be no chaos between the traders,
and when the market is crashing, we can see which traders really have a lot of experience and which ones don't.

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Quote from: jeraldskie11 on May 26, 2023, 12:04:04 AM

It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.

Well, it is easy to look like a genius when the market is doing nothing but to go up, during those moments everyone seems to be obtaining profits, however as we know such a state cannot be maintained for long and at some point a crash follows, it is at those moments when you can see who is really good and who was just being carried away by the bull market, and when all is said and done you can see the majority of the traders on the market were never as good as they thought they were.

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Quote from: jeraldskie11 on May 26, 2023, 12:04:04 AM

It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.

The crypto market has historically shown some seasonal patterns, although it is important to note that these patterns are not guaranteed to repeat in the future. Several factors can influence the behavior of the crypto market, including investor sentiment, market trends, and regulatory changes. Additionally, some peoples argue that there are seasonal patterns based on investor behavior and market sentiment. The behavior of the cryptocurrencies market is influenced by a variety of factors beyond seasonal trends, including demand and supply disparities and the market's interest in the product.

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It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.

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It's hard to even call it a season. The market is rather periodic. Moreover, periods can change so quickly that it is rather difficult to keep track of this.

I would slightly disagree with your opinion that you can compare it to the season because if you know the bear market has started since the end of 2021 and the market is still bear till May 2023.We can say that this is the bear season and this is the season of buying, and it has taken a long time for bull season to turn into bear season. Similarly, when the bull season comes and the bear season ends, it also takes a long time.

So I think you can easily keep track of changing periods. Market seasons give you the opportunity to know where you should enter and where you should exit.

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Maybe the only traders that have consistent earnings are those that spend time conducting paid seminars, tutorials, and other services they can do to earn money instead of spending time studying, and trading in order to milk the market. Cheesy

That is why I quit many times already. But I will be trading again probably next year and the year 2025 because they are possibly bullish years if we are to base it on bitcoin and crypto cycles. But I am far from being called a trading expert.

Trading strategies won't work all the time too mate. Long-time traders always adjust their strategies to what will work for them.

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Quote from: MiF on May 12, 2023, 07:05:20 AM

Yeah market is up and down, pump and dump, rise and fall, it is completely unstable, that is why we can earn and sometimes we will loss it is seasonal that is why the profit is also seasonal, but people still trade because sometimes trading is surprising we can also earn big profit depending on our luck.

Trading cryptocurrency with a solid technique with the objective to accumulate additional profits in the market is a risk, consideringeverything to be traded with caution. The market is volatile, and no one knows what will happen next. Profiting in the market is made simple by the strategy we adopted. We have the pump and dump season, which is different for altcoins and memecoins. The best period to enter the market is during the bear season, when most projects are down and bagged more than enough, since when the market is pumping, massive gains will be generated.

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Quote from: MiF on May 12, 2023, 07:05:20 AM

Quote from: JamesBorn on April 10, 2023, 11:47:13 PM

Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain, and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

Yeah market is up and down, pump and dump, rise and fall, it is completely unstable, that is why we can earn and sometimes we will loss it is seasonal that is why the profit is also seasonal, but people still trade because sometimes trading is surprising we can also earn big profit depending on our luck.

and the hard thing to deal with is accepting defeat during a market season that is not in accordance with our dreams, because being able to accept defeat will minimize the risk of greater losses, because most people trade short term, but in the end they trade long term because of floating minus . What needs to be remembered is that there are still many opportunities to make transactions in the future, so don't sacrifice capital for just one transaction that doesn't fit

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 10, 2023, 11:47:13 PM

Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain, and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

Yeah market is up and down, pump and dump, rise and fall, it is completely unstable, that is why we can earn and sometimes we will loss it is seasonal that is why the profit is also seasonal, but people still trade because sometimes trading is surprising we can also earn big profit depending on our luck.

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Quote from: iv4n on May 09, 2023, 05:07:46 AM

All markets are seasonal, ups and downs happen in all markets, but what's special about the crypto market is that volatility and power are at the highest levels. Nothing compares with crypto and some incredible spikes that happened (both ways) in so short period of time.

Market is volatile, ups and downs and you must survive in a bear market to enjoy a bull market. If you can not survive through a bear market, a bull market later does not mean anything for you.

Quote from: SirLancelot on May 03, 2023, 10:02:54 AM

Your success depends on how you change your process and adapt new strategies and methods that best suite the changing market conditions from every now and then, if you can keep up, you will be good, if not, you will probably lose momentum.

Only if we don't lose all capital with past mistakes. We only can change our strategies if we have capital (don't lose it all). If we lose it all, we will have to work to have new capital, make a loan (that we should not do) but it will take time and require us to save money from other things in life.

Don't think that we will always have jobs to work and receive salary. We invest into something to increase our capital, not to lose it and return to work and get money to pay for food, water, electricity.

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Quote from: Blowon on May 03, 2023, 10:42:41 AM

Quote from: JamesBorn on April 10, 2023, 11:47:13 PM

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

because of that we have to be smart in looking for opportunities when to buy and when to make a profit by selling it. don't fight crypto flows, because all of that will go according to the existing trends and seasons. It's better to be really thorough and make consistent income patiently, than to be greedy in trading here.

All markets are seasonal, ups and downs happen in all markets, but what's special about the crypto market is that volatility and power are at the highest levels. Nothing compares with crypto and some incredible spikes that happened (both ways) in so short period of time.

Well, we have to be smart, opportunities are everywhere, and there's something for everyone. Markets are seasonal, and there are many risks, but I think that we have good reasons to believe that the crypto market will continue to grow. So people should get more into crypto, if they think they can make some good analysis and catch some changes it can be profitable for them, and if not even stacking sats is a good investment for the future.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on May 03, 2023, 10:02:54 AM

Even the strategies and individual behaviors are seasonal along with the market as they need to be changed when the market moves from one place to another. One cannot use the same strategy when the market isn't moving the same way all the time, and there needs to be tweaks in a strategy or a process that one uses towards the market.

Your success depends on how you change your process and adapt new strategies and methods that best suite the changing market conditions from every now and then, if you can keep up, you will be good, if not, you will probably lose momentum.

That is the reason why we have indicators and analysis. If you do TA very well then you will know where the market is moving, or at least where it should be moving. Sometimes it is hyped, sometimes it is gloomy, sometimes it's bear, sometimes it's bull. You can't know what will happen the market beforehand easily and you can't just use the same strategy for each market.

It means that you need to do your TA, and depending on the result you need to use that, you can't just have one strategy for all, you need to have one for each, and that is how you are going to make a difference. I personally believe that there is nothing wrong with the current system of investing according your own analysis, but you need to learn how to do that carefully, otherwise it is not going to end up being anything easy.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 10, 2023, 11:47:13 PM

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

because of that we have to be smart in looking for opportunities when to buy and when to make a profit by selling it. don't fight crypto flows, because all of that will go according to the existing trends and seasons. It's better to be really thorough and make consistent income patiently, than to be greedy in trading here.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on April 30, 2023, 10:26:07 AM

If it is just about losing, as a trader, you shall not stretch it more out. It is a normal part of the game. A loss is necessary for the probability of your winning system to pan out.
It is also not just about the market. The market does its own thing. Your main focus should be on how you are going to act as opposed to how the market is moving.

You can have the direction right but still not profitable. See? That's a big problem. Success in trading is about 3 things. How you perceive the market. What is your strategy in line with how you perceive the market, and How are you behaving with your strategy to profit from the market?

Everything is seasonal. Whether it is price delivery or your personal account PnL and drawdowns. Whatever it is, just know that it is momentary. Focus on the process.

Even the strategies and individual behaviors are seasonal along with the market as they need to be changed when the market moves from one place to another. One cannot use the same strategy when the market isn't moving the same way all the time, and there needs to be tweaks in a strategy or a process that one uses towards the market.

Your success depends on how you change your process and adapt new strategies and methods that best suite the changing market conditions from every now and then, if you can keep up, you will be good, if not, you will probably lose momentum.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on May 01, 2023, 04:24:28 AM

Many people trade daily but they over trade and they are always in the market. They usually don't exit the market and take a rest to have time to refresh their minds and have enough time as well as neutral mind to think of the market by analyzinita withouta personal emotion because of their existing positions which can be in profit or loss.

Most of traders are failed traders in the market and having a good win rate does not mean you will have net profit. If you are bad in capital management, one loss can turn your positive net profit to a negative one. Like you start with $100, win 10 trades and make your trading capital to $300. But if you use all $300 for your 11th trade and lose it big, yoiuu might end it with even less than $100 that is your initial trading capital.

There are too many trades that loses and only a few that does win, because only a few did what they should and most did not studied it at all. Bear does matter a bit, surely the leverage and futures made it possible that even bear is profitable, but it does matter, when it is bull it is easier to make a profit whereas when it is bear it is a bit harder because market is not moving with that kind of hype. If nothing else, we could talk about the volume and that matters a lot for sure.

This is why I believe that we should not be focusing on bear and hope for a bull soon. Even professional traders who make millions of dollars in profits would rather have a great bull run, like see the price go above ATH, they will benefit from that too.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on May 01, 2023, 03:21:32 AM

There are professionals or experts in trading but it does not mean that they are immune to losses. The only reason why they are termed like that is because they have gained lots of experience and they are now familiar on different things here in the trading.

This makes their winning rate higher than the average users and they can now mentor the newbies in the scene. Investment has its own risk. You only think it's easy but it was actually hard. One may not stick on his plan and that is the time they will experience a loss.

Many people trade daily but they over trade and they are always in the market. They usually don't exit the market and take a rest to have time to refresh their minds and have enough time as well as neutral mind to think of the market by analyzinita withouta personal emotion because of their existing positions which can be in profit or loss.

Most of traders are failed traders in the market and having a good win rate does not mean you will have net profit. If you are bad in capital management, one loss can turn your positive net profit to a negative one. Like you start with $100, win 10 trades and make your trading capital to $300. But if you use all $300 for your 11th trade and lose it big, yoiuu might end it with even less than $100 that is your initial trading capital.

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Season does change but what is its connection to the market? However crypto market has their own seasons too. That is the bull and the bear.

Professional traders do their works when market is dynamic with waves, they don't mind that it is a bull or bear market. If they see waves, they will trade but if they don't see wave, they stay inactively.

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Quote from: AnonBitCoiner on April 13, 2023, 07:09:04 AM

Quote from: JamesBorn on April 10, 2023, 11:47:13 PM

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

I am agree with you that there is not a single expert which always get maximum returns but while trading they will face defeat and loss at some point because from this loss they get experience and if they did not loss money in past then they will hardly cope with harsh situations in future.

You are right that everyone gets success and also they faces failure but it is not always that one time you will successful and other time failure but regular success can also achieve. A person can get rid of regular loss through investment for lengthy period of time because in longer time you will have no worries about the lower price because you will keep holding your coin until it gives you maximum return.

Yes we can say that market is seasonal because seasons changes and in the same way the price changes regularly, as a single season does not remain always so same is the market where it doesn't remains in one position.

There are professionals or experts in trading but it does not mean that they are immune to losses. The only reason why they are termed like that is because they have gained lots of experience and they are now familiar on different things here in the trading.

This makes their winning rate higher than the average users and they can now mentor the newbies in the scene. Investment has its own risk. You only think it's easy but it was actually hard. One may not stick on his plan and that is the time they will experience a loss. Season does change but what is its connection to the market? However crypto market has their own seasons too. That is the bull and the bear.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 10, 2023, 11:47:13 PM

Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain, and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

If it is just about losing, as a trader, you shall not stretch it more out. It is a normal part of the game. A loss is necessary for the probability of your winning system to pan out.
It is also not just about the market. The market does its own thing. Your main focus should be on how you are going to act as opposed to how the market is moving.

You can have the direction right but still not profitable. See? That's a big problem. Success in trading is about 3 things. How you perceive the market. What is your strategy in line with how you perceive the market, and How are you behaving with your strategy to profit from the market?

Everything is seasonal. Whether it is price delivery or your personal account PnL and drawdowns. Whatever it is, just know that it is momentary. Focus on the process.

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I would never say that the market is seasonal, I do know that at one point the market can be linear and it is understandable, but not by much, volatility is the ingredient that will always make a difference in this market and that is what the market does. Unlike forex, the stock market, everything is necessary, only in the bitcoin market the volume is not consolidated, which makes the general analysis very Unstable, while in the rest the volume is consolidated, and the analyzes they tend to be more effective and accurate.

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Quote from: |MINER| on April 19, 2023, 12:33:38 AM

The market thus moves at its own pace, Sometimes there will be profit and sometimes there will be loss, this is how trading happens. There is no guarantee that profits will always be made here. And one person's loss becomes another person's gain and this is how the market is moving at its own pace. In other words, yes, the market is seasonal and if you can maintain those seasonal times, then you are a gainer.

If we are talking about market being seasonal,We need to know the certain times that it is good to trade,we need to know when to invest and when not to invest,the market is about giving and taking,you invest at a particular time,and you also take your profit when when you are supposed to.There are sometimes when the market is very rough,and Sometimes when the market is smooth,and that time is the perfect time to trade your coin.
Most traders have not calm down to critically look at when the market is best to make investment,and that is one of the reasons why they lose money,if you are a trader,you must be a careful trader,someone who analysis,exermines,and studies up and down movement in the price of coins before investing.

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