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Quote from: martyns on April 13, 2023, 06:19:03 PM

You are right that some traders benefit even when it seems the market is bad,but you can't tell me that there are some traders who win at every time they trade,I don't think there is any trader like that,there must be time when you loose either as a result of poor strategising, or as result of bad market,and that is where i agree with the OP's topic that the market is seasonal,sometimes it will be good,and sometimes it will be very bad.The period of time that it is bad is when you loose your money,while the good period is when you make profit or gain.That is why adaptation is necessary in the business.As a good trader or investor,you must know the seasons that market is always bad,and avoid trading during that period of time.
Observe when the market is always favourable and trade.

There are only two seasons in the market, we have the bear and bull season. Which is categorically understandable because there's more complex adaption of the both seasons. Bear is a season of market, where investors and traders tends to lay solid foundation for the potential prominent projects in the space, ready to shoot to the moon when the bulls is triggered. While the bull season is the harvest season where we reap the significant profits we invested during the bear season. All seasons are favorable and we ought to know the type of season that serves us better.

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Quote from: michellee on April 13, 2023, 07:51:55 AM

But even so, some traders manage to profit in every situation because they can analyze the market well. If you can analyze the market, you can still profit like them. And even if you lose, you can still profit from trading other coins. However, market conditions are not always favourable. If you find it difficult to analyze the market direction, you should leave the market for a while to enjoy your day and return to the market in a few days. It will give you a new enthusiasm in analyzing the market and who knows, you may benefit after resting for a while.

You are right that some traders benefit even when it seems the market is bad,but you can't tell me that there are some traders who win at every time they trade,I don't think there is any trader like that,there must be time when you loose either as a result of poor strategising, or as result of bad market,and that is where i agree with the OP's topic that the market is seasonal,sometimes it will be good,and sometimes it will be very bad.The period of time that it is bad is when you loose your money,while the good period is when you make profit or gain.That is why adaptation is necessary in the business.As a good trader or investor,you must know the seasons that market is always bad,and avoid trading during that period of time.
Observe when the market is always favourable and trade.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 11, 2023, 12:47:13 AM

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

I am agree with you that there is not a single expert which always get maximum returns but while trading they will face defeat and loss at some point because from this loss they get experience and if they did not loss money in past then they will hardly cope with harsh situations in future.

You are right that everyone gets success and also they faces failure but it is not always that one time you will successful and other time failure but regular success can also achieve. A person can get rid of regular loss through investment for lengthy period of time because in longer time you will have no worries about the lower price because you will keep holding your coin until it gives you maximum return.

Yes we can say that market is seasonal because seasons changes and in the same way the price changes regularly, as a single season does not remain always so same is the market where it doesn't remains in one position.

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But even so, some traders manage to profit in every situation because they can analyze the market well. If you can analyze the market, you can still profit like them. And even if you lose, you can still profit from trading other coins. However, market conditions are not always favourable. If you find it difficult to analyze the market direction, you should leave the market for a while to enjoy your day and return to the market in a few days. It will give you a new enthusiasm in analyzing the market and who knows, you may benefit after resting for a while.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 11, 2023, 12:47:13 AM

Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain, and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

Maybe you have a point or you're right in what you said, like the weather, there is a rainy season, summer, autumn, and winter. This is how you want to point out the topic you made.

That's why it doesn't seem like it, because if trading is seasonal here in cryptocurrency, it will appear untrue that you can make a profit every day from trading. Maybe you just said that because the trading market is unpredictable, and if anyone knows when the value of a coin will increase or decrease, it's the manipulators or whales.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 11, 2023, 12:47:13 AM

Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain, and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

You are pertaining about trading right? You are saying that you can get wins at some times, and at some times you will get losses.

Well, that's how trading is. There is no 100% win rate in trading. Even the experts are losing trades, but the difference is that the experts are winning more than they're losing thus, they are having more profits than losses. Mystical magic? Technological process? Regulating the system? I might be dumb, but I didn't even think how these words are connected to trading.

You said complete expert trader. You mean a perfect trader right because if that's how you think then you're right. You know what the experts and newbies, and average traders differ? Experts know the risk, they know when to enter, and they know when to exit. Most of the newbies, and some of the average traders doesn't know this one.

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Last month you made a lot of profit by trading and this month you lost more than the profit you made so it seems to you that trading may be seasonal. That is, if you trade according to the season, you will be profitable, but if you trade outside of the season, you will lose.
I don't think your idea is correct. Because this digital market is completely uncontrolled. That is, no one controls this market. The market moves at will. You may have traded at the right time last month but this month you may not have traded as per the market movement so you lost more money this month than what you gained last month. But don't lose patience. Believe in yourself and improve your trading skills, hope you succeed.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 11, 2023, 12:47:13 AM

Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain, and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.
I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

Last month was very bullish for the market so everybody might have seen profits from their trade but that doesn't mean they're good with their predictions. The market shoudn't determine your results instead your understanding of the market should do that. If you're a professional trader, you should be able to make gains in any market conditions both bull or bear market.

No human is perfect as even professional trades also lose some trade therefore the negative trades could come in but overall you should be profitable from your trades. The seasons of the market or the market been seasonal shouldn't affect your overall results and if it does then you need to rethink your strategies.

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Basically new traders don't have that good idea about trending. But if they think that investing will make them money then they must analyze the market. First of all he should consult a good investor and then start trading. And if you don't have a very good experience in this regard then you will definitely risk your money. Trading must be done wisely otherwise you will not be so good at investing if you lose your money later. So if you want to invest, you must pay attention to all aspects and be experienced in trading, then it is possible to earn profit.

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Yes, somehow it is seasonal.
When the bear season takes place, we don't experience straight losses but the portfolio gets down slowly to kick out the weakest of the weak hands possible and then, the whales begin their show where they try to push back the price up so that it gets harder for retails to catch up the train because the speed of pricing it up is way higher than you think. Even whales get ditched by institutions who try to keep the markets down to accumulate as many BTC as possible and it's ultimately the game of those who hold the most BTC because the more BTC you have, the more you can manipulate alts.

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This is why trading is not for everyone because even a good trader just like you still experience a good loss but with a good strategy that doesn't stick to a single one might give you a lift. The market is indeed seasonal because some of them just wanted to buy low while some of them wanted to sell high. A good TA and FA is what you really need but overall what's matter is how much more you win compared to how much more you lose. At least now, you did experience the great lesson that you shouldn't do in the future but instead try a new type of strategy.

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Yes I can say trading is really seasonal, it happened to me many times in the past and it still happens now. You win in Coin some profit this time and then lose it the other time.

Such is the nature of trading win or lose, you cannot always be a successful trader even the most famous traders are not all "deals" 100% successful .

Therefore, you have to take things simply and accept the loss as you rejoice at the profit. Also, you have to go along with the market, which means you have to change your strategy sometimes according to the market situation.

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Quote from: DevilSlayer on April 11, 2023, 09:32:38 AM

There is a thing called market cycle in trading and it consists of Uptrend, Downtrend, and Sideways. The strategies in uptrend is not applicable in downtrend, the strategies in sideways are not applicable in uptrend and vice versas. It is common mistakes of the traders nowadays wherein they think that their strategies will work 100% of the time without knowing and understanding the nature of trading and also the market cycle. The market already transition to sideways in to bullish wherein the proof is the current breakout of the bitcoin in the $29,000 - $30,000. What we should expect after what happened earlier? There is a high probability that the price will appreciate in these following days and weeks and we can also expect that some altcoins will go crazy momentum.

I do not think that anyone has explained this any better than this. What you just said is so true and something that people need to learn a lot. Even when we are talking about long term, the reaction we are giving are different and should be considered that way. I personally have a situation where I get to invest whenever I want to, but that means I am not going to be able to do the same.

For example, I buy a lot more when it is going down, and I mean a lot more, 10x more than usual, and when it is sideways I just buy a bit, a small amount, to keep it growing, and when it is going up I do not buy at all. That's how we should approach this thing without a doubt, that's how it is treated and makes a profit for you.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 11, 2023, 12:47:13 AM

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

It’s easy to celebrate winnings and ten times hard to take a loss. There is no perfect trader, the best can only try to make their winnings higher and keep their losses at minimal. I agree the crypto market is seasonal, that’s why traders study trends, previous price movements and history, and follow the news. However I do not see crypto trading as a game of luck, if it’s as simple as the toss of a coin anybody can be successful trader.

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Quote from: Unbunplease on April 11, 2023, 06:57:55 PM

In summer there is usually less activity, and in spring there is often an active growth phase (at least once every two years).

IMO, it could be.
Many traders may take time off during holidays, which could lead to lower trading volumes and increased volatility. As we noticed, in the past few weeks there are too many holidays I think many traders took a break for vacation.

Quote from: JamesBorn on April 11, 2023, 12:47:13 AM

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

Yes, that's the point because the market is highly unpredictable and subject to a wide range of factors that can impact its performance.
So even them, they may experience losses too.

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In summer there is usually less activity, and in spring there is often an active growth phase (at least once every two years). So yes, we can say that the market depends to a certain extent on what time of year it is. Although there are always exceptions to the rules, so you can't be absolutely sure it will always be like that.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 11, 2023, 12:47:13 AM

Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain, and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

And this what makes this market special on which it is really that not prone to manipulation because the entire community are ones who do dictate out when it comes to price movement.
Its not really that something shocking because this market had been unpredictable since from the start.You might be able to make the best TA analysis out there but
there would be no assurance that it would precisely work 100% most of the time.

This is why when you are a trader then you should really be making yourself at least aware on how this market behaves or works.

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Quote from: crwth on April 11, 2023, 02:30:59 AM

How can you say that the market is seasonal if you need help understanding the mechanics of the market? Saying that it's "mystical magic" doesn't explain anything. It's best to know that there is a primary reason you always kept winning trades: market sentiment. It's a bullish market; everyone would benefit from it and keep winning.

It would be hard to regulate, but the people who can are the whales.

Actually the market is seasonal, because relating it to bullish season and bearish season, its safe explanatory that market happens to be positive seasonal and some times it happens to be negative in some points, so if Op portray that market is seasonal I don't that the reasons or point are not cogent, relating it to the aspect of Trading you will note that in trading not every period you trade it become profitable, it neither be positive or negative, so base on Op experience that is while it throw the ideas on air.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 11, 2023, 12:47:13 AM

Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain, and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

The bull run is seasonal but the market is active at all times. You gotta see how the market works for both investors and traders. If you're an active trader, you can make everything for all seasons. But if you're an investor then you have to wait for the right time to see how the profits will come out. And that's where being seasonal is going to come in, we don't know if the future might be good for specific altcoins you're holding and trading but, if you're holding bitcoin then the chances are higher than one can expect. It all depends on your trading capacity and the reality of it is that traders are losing more, honestly. And if the latter is your description of yours being seasonal, it's true. Today might your lucky day but tomorrow, you don't know.

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I am expecting this week to be Bullish because the market is already gaining some good sights and 30K is broken by the Bitcoin, I do agree with the OP that the Market is seasonal but this seasonal market behavior provides the investors a risk-free opportunity to take entry and book some decent profits. Forking and Hitting I would like to say Time changes dude Spring Blossom cant be forever this is how nature works if something is rising then before and after there was dark fall. If this doesn't happen then what to expect we won't get new opportunities to enter.

For the rest of the case on the expert trader as bro, you are not controlling the market it's based on different aspects so we can predict with some sort of efficiency we can't judge. Predictions / Speculation are based on the previous market behaviors and the maximum of times it works.

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