Martin Armstrong Discussion - page 328.

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Quote from: jehst on September 30, 2015, 11:47:12 AM

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Was doing some research and Martin Armstrong has quite a few totally wrong calls like this one:

DOW 32000 in 2015

http://www.silverdoctors.com/martin-armstrong-the-stock-market-will-double-by-2015/

No one's right every time . The 32000-35000 thing is predicated on some sort of "phase shift" IIRC which didn't happen

I can understand that no one is right all the time. But being wrong by such magnitude is quite shocking.

SP at 3000
http://www.talkmarkets.com/content/us-markets/sp500-still-on-track-to-test-3000-level?post=47979

Gold might be $907 in 2 weeks
http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/11033

TPTB_need_war already posted an interesting refutation regarding this comment, but I wanted to add something else. If you read and interpreted his blog posts correctly, you would've noticed he uses a lot of IF and THEN, you have to be able to understand what he means with that in order to understand his predictions.

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Strange, yet attractive.

The unleashing of Russian firepower in Syria in support of the Syrian government came precisely on the day of the Economic Confidence Model. What I have come to learn from my observations of this model with world events, has been that whatever is the major focus, appears to line itself up with this model...

...This is turning into a direct confrontation between the three leading powers in the Middle East. For what purpose? All because Obama and crew did not like Putin? But failing to curtail the bankers who were trying to take over Russia to get their hands on all the commodities back in 1999, they created Putin. Whether the government was behind the banking objectives or came in after the fact to protect the bankers amounts to the same thing. This is one reason they have been trying to block the FORECASTER being shown in the United States whereas it has been making headlines and nightly news shows in Europe, who has suffered the economic blows of these sanctions.

The other side of 2015.75 is much more serious than many suspect. This is a concentration of confidence in government which marks the peak and from here on out, this will not be a video game – this is real.

From what I can understand (all FUD left behind), is that Martin Armstrong has indeed developed a working model that can (with high probability rate) predict what will happen based on historical data, BUT, he has no other choice but to make assumptions as to what these predictions will truly be. Thus, we see comments like the one quoted above or sentences like "End of Government" which (by now) has been interpreted in many different ways.

I wouldn't call him a fraud. This thing might actually WORK! I'm not sure though that the predictions that he claims are the correct ones. There's only one way to see. We must wait.

Read more http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/37594

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on October 01, 2015, 09:50:57 PM

Quote from: trollercoaster on October 01, 2015, 06:20:27 PM

He could have defrauded us when I asked if he could include bitcoin with his precious metals report, but he declined due to not having enough historical data...

Did he tell you that? I had speculated up thread that would be the reason he isn't doing any predictions on Bitcoin.

Yes, I no longer have his reply due to using a throw away email address, but he also believes it will not survive.

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Quote from: altcoinUK on October 01, 2015, 05:36:34 PM

In the Forecaster movie, at the part when Armstrong's associates open the old laptop which is from the 90's - and according to them the OS and content was not modified since the 90's -, I believe that list/slide what you are looking for was there. I understand that is not an exclusive evidence, however I have no reason to believe that people who appear in that movie mislead to public in order to create publicity for Armstrong.

Armstrong has stated numerous times the producers of the movie had to obtain fact liability insurance, meaning the attorneys verified that every claim in the movie is factural and will stand up to any test of the facts in a court of law.

Any more FUD?

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Quote from: trollercoaster on October 01, 2015, 06:20:27 PM

He could have defrauded us when I asked if he could include bitcoin with his precious metals report, but he declined due to not having enough historical data...

Did he tell you that? I had speculated up thread that would be the reason he isn't doing any predictions on Bitcoin.

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He could have defrauded us when I asked if he could include bitcoin with his precious metals report, but he declined due to not having enough historical data, a fraud would jump at the opportunity to sell hundreds more $500.00 reports by slapping together some nonsense.

I just don't see how he is a fraud, everything on his blog is there for anyone to see and interpret how they wish, Socrates will be launched shortly, and the subscription is roughly the same as your favourite porn site.

How has he defrauded anyone? I haven't seen any websites set up by unhappy customers, his clients have been returning for 30 odd years.

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Quote from: trollercoaster on October 01, 2015, 05:33:32 PM

He's a fraud? Then I advise you to do the opposite of what he says, then you can come back here and laugh at us later.

I didn't call him a fraud - only stated that he appears to be one on the surface from his demeanor. I don't actually know if he's a fraud or not. I'm trying to find evidence!

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Quote from: SmoothCurves on October 01, 2015, 04:22:44 PM

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Quote from: SmoothCurves on October 01, 2015, 02:20:55 PM

Quote from: macsga on October 01, 2015, 02:07:50 PM

^^

I reviewed the movie again, I found no video that demonstrates this particular model back then. It has a graphic representation of this on 17'10" on black and white but just that. The same slide is all over the movie but newer. I may have to look closer, but I think what you're looking for isn't there. It has a clip from 1994 (not 1998) of him talking about it, but not the slide itself.

Thanks for reviewing that. If what he says is true, then there should be evidence that he really did write that back in 1998. Does the 1994 clip have him mentioning the 2007 housing bubble or anything like that?

Maybe have a look at his video from 1999 (didn't watch it so don't know if he talks about that):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zej5sM6y6Cs

Watching this video is making me even more skeptical.

In the Forecaster movie, at the part when Armstrong's associates open the old laptop which is from the 90's - and according to them the OS and content was not modified since the 90's -, I believe that list/slide what you are looking for was there. I understand that is not an exclusive evidence, however I have no reason to believe that people who appear in that movie mislead to public in order to create publicity for Armstrong.

Anyway, Armstrong in my opinion proves every single day what a remarkable economist and intellect he is, so I am not sure your scepticism is based on what when he has projected 1987, 1989, the Russian crisis, the 2000 bubble, etc.

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He's a fraud? Then I advise you to do the opposite of what he says, then you can come back here and laugh at us later.

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Quote from: BldSwtTrs on October 01, 2015, 04:32:59 PM

Quote from: SmoothCurves on October 01, 2015, 04:22:44 PM

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Quote from: SmoothCurves on October 01, 2015, 02:20:55 PM

Quote from: macsga on October 01, 2015, 02:07:50 PM

^^

I reviewed the movie again, I found no video that demonstrates this particular model back then. It has a graphic representation of this on 17'10" on black and white but just that. The same slide is all over the movie but newer. I may have to look closer, but I think what you're looking for isn't there. It has a clip from 1994 (not 1998) of him talking about it, but not the slide itself.

Thanks for reviewing that. If what he says is true, then there should be evidence that he really did write that back in 1998. Does the 1994 clip have him mentioning the 2007 housing bubble or anything like that?

Maybe have a look at his video from 1999 (didn't watch it so don't know if he talks about that):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zej5sM6y6Cs

Watching this video is making me even more skeptical.

Yeah, I am watching the video and he definitely doesn't look like someone who knew a lot about the future at that time.

Sorry fanboys, it seems like Armstrong is lying too you about his track record.

Agreed. His demeanor doesn't seem right either - something about him screams "fraud".

trollercoaster

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It's all been an elaborate hoax, the jig is up..
Armstrong, Merkel, Obama & Putin will peel off their masks to reveal themselves as ancient reptilians, fly back to pluto and leave us with free energy, world peace and bitcoin.

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Quote from: SmoothCurves on October 01, 2015, 04:22:44 PM

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Quote from: SmoothCurves on October 01, 2015, 02:20:55 PM

Quote from: macsga on October 01, 2015, 02:07:50 PM

^^

I reviewed the movie again, I found no video that demonstrates this particular model back then. It has a graphic representation of this on 17'10" on black and white but just that. The same slide is all over the movie but newer. I may have to look closer, but I think what you're looking for isn't there. It has a clip from 1994 (not 1998) of him talking about it, but not the slide itself.

Thanks for reviewing that. If what he says is true, then there should be evidence that he really did write that back in 1998. Does the 1994 clip have him mentioning the 2007 housing bubble or anything like that?

Maybe have a look at his video from 1999 (didn't watch it so don't know if he talks about that):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zej5sM6y6Cs

Watching this video is making me even more skeptical.

Yeah, I am watching the video and he definitely doesn't look like someone who knew a lot about the future at that time.

Sorry fanboys, it seems like Armstrong is lying too you about his track record.

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Quote from: SmoothCurves on October 01, 2015, 02:20:55 PM

Quote from: macsga on October 01, 2015, 02:07:50 PM

^^

I reviewed the movie again, I found no video that demonstrates this particular model back then. It has a graphic representation of this on 17'10" on black and white but just that. The same slide is all over the movie but newer. I may have to look closer, but I think what you're looking for isn't there. It has a clip from 1994 (not 1998) of him talking about it, but not the slide itself.

Thanks for reviewing that. If what he says is true, then there should be evidence that he really did write that back in 1998. Does the 1994 clip have him mentioning the 2007 housing bubble or anything like that?

Maybe have a look at his video from 1999 (didn't watch it so don't know if he talks about that):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zej5sM6y6Cs

Watching this video is making me even more skeptical.

macsga

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Quote from: OROBTC on October 01, 2015, 02:29:01 PM

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Today, the government of Venezuela apparently has been restricting visits to BTC-related sites (BitStamp, localbitcoins, etc.). If Venezuelans are able to beat their .gov on this, that would be a sign that government is losing confidence.

ORO: Excellent pointing, I'd say "spot on". This is what I had in mind too; how on earth could we end the government slavery if not with bitcoin technology? I believe this is it. Today I've got an email from coinbase. They allow buying bitcoin with credit/debit cards on the fly!

https://www.coinbase.com/

If this is what Armstrong expected, I'd say it was wise that he didn't mention bitcoin in his predictions.

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There are a few posts by Armstrong today re 2015.75. Indeed, a lot has been happening in the past few days (political turmoil in Poland, Russia starts bombing for real in Syria, etc.).

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong_economics_blog

There seems to be little doubt that Putin's star is on the rise, and Obama's is in free-fall. I am now hearing on the radio how Putin has masterfully played Obama for the fool. Previously I had only seen that kind of commentary at the alt-finance sites (eg Zero Hedge, etc.).

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Today, the government of Venezuela apparently has been restricting visits to BTC-related sites (BitStamp, localbitcoins, etc.). If Venezuelans are able to beat their .gov on this, that would be a sign that government is losing confidence.

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Quote from: macsga on October 01, 2015, 02:07:50 PM

^^

I reviewed the movie again, I found no video that demonstrates this particular model back then. It has a graphic representation of this on 17'10" on black and white but just that. The same slide is all over the movie but newer. I may have to look closer, but I think what you're looking for isn't there. It has a clip from 1994 (not 1998) of him talking about it, but not the slide itself.

Thanks for reviewing that. If what he says is true, then there should be evidence that he really did write that back in 1998. Does the 1994 clip have him mentioning the 2007 housing bubble or anything like that?

macsga

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^^

I reviewed the movie again, I found no video that demonstrates this particular model back then. It has a graphic representation of this on 17'10" on black and white but just that. The same slide is all over the movie but newer. I may have to look closer, but I think what you're looking for isn't there. It has a clip from 1994 (not 1998) of him talking about it, but not the slide itself.

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Quote from: macsga on October 01, 2015, 01:39:15 PM

Quote from: SmoothCurves on October 01, 2015, 01:27:02 PM

Does anyone have a screenshot of The Forecaster movie where the famous slide was shown in 1998?

You must be talking about this...

I want to see this slide

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Quote from: SmoothCurves on October 01, 2015, 01:27:02 PM

Does anyone have a screenshot of The Forecaster movie where the famous slide was shown in 1998?

You must be talking about this...

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21 million. I want them all.

M. Armstrong says that there's no difference between the US government a) printing money out of thin air and b) borrowing money that it has no intent to pay back. If the US government is so scared of deflation and a strong dollar, why not just straight print money to pay back debt, fund social security, fund healthcare, etc. instead of borrowing? That would scare people out of the dollar, wouldn't it? Isn't that what the government wants?

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