Topic: Martin Armstrong Discussion - page 361. (Read 647188 times)

None taken,

The beer is in the fridge, the barbie can wait til summer 

And also I didn't intend any offense mate. Let's enjoy life while we have it. Where's the barbie and the beer 

no problem, your username.

That PM didn't come from me, by the way.

That comment was intended to be bait tabnloz, and your response to it was typical of marxists, no offence was meant, peace  

And so you transfer the degrees-of-freedom from the individual to decide his own mind, to a power vacuum you hand to the State which will always be captured by power and remember corruption is more powerful than non-corruption. Thus you've chosen corruption over free will. Congratulations for choosing slavery.

You may not like another person's opinion, but to do something about it, you either need to confront him individually or you must empower the State to enslave everyone. Humans can't stop meddling with others.  

If your goal is perfection, then your goal is non-existance. I could explain that all the way from the fundamental physics but not now. I already hinted at the proof upthread.

Joining modern society means overcoming prejudice and stereotypes which exist without doubt - this was my main point, that racism, rightly or wrongly, exists in modern Australia (as it does in every country, even the most diverse and tolerant like Brazil - where racism has been, at least, diluted by sex). There exists in Australia an obligation to employ Indigenous workers with the aim of helping people get experience & employment in different fields. If it were a level playing field, prejudice of the employer could play a part, but by the same token having a kind of Affirmative Action may mean a more qualified person misses out. No system is perfect and I can understand that some think the state should stay out of it.

My dislike of trollercoasters sentence was that in context I read it as a passive aggressive slight. You're right, primitive doesn't have to be negative, but in this context I believe it was without stating that explicitly. No one says that they find it admirable that white people voluntarily keep their culture alive.

End of the day, I'm happy to agree to disagree on things. You're at a much more advanced level than I am regarding your world view and breadth of intelligence, I'm developing my views as I learn and go. Let's get back to MA discussion 

There is some rationality tied into this. Humans historically have survived by banding together with the tribe. They understand they survive if their tribe does. This is why Trump got booed when he asserted his right to bolt independent if he is denied the Republican nomination.

And this is why politics is entirely dysfunctional once the tribe becomes too large. Thus my retort to tabnloz claims that we can't get justice employing the State that created the injustice in the first place (not without causing some other injustice, because you can't do just one thing). The generative essence is lack of degrees-of-freedom, which ties right back into inviolable Second Law of Thermodynamics and the requirement that entropy is irreversible and trending to maximum. I explain it another way. If time were reversible, past = present = future thus there is no change and thus no life.

Of course life may just be an illusion of some local friction. On the whole, the entropy of the Universe might be constant but we'd have to be outside the Universe (be able to navigate spacetime at a rate greater than the speed-of-light) to falsify it thus the catch-22 (due to the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle). But for us to have our lives as we perceive them, then we must have relativity (due to friction).

So fight as you want against the free market which marching towards greater entropy, greater maximum division-of-labor, and greater decentralization, but nature always wins on a sufficient spacetime scale. Coasian local orders persist until they don't, e.g. the Google effect you cited.

P.S. I added to my prior post.

Edit: what I am trying to accomplish is that we can get economies-of-scale on fungible money and knowledge internet on the internet (the large community) while adding decentralization (end-to-end principle) and anonymity, so that we have the economies-of-scale of large community while also enabling our local community to resist the subjugation of degrees-of-freedom by the power vacuum of the collective. I believe if we can achieve this, we will have a glorious Knowledge Age. Whether I am correct or not, it is this ideal that is pushing me to work so hard at age 50. Hope some people will join if I can get something tangible completed.

Often implemented as a reverse psychology assessment, one of the "tools" one can use in order to persuade somebody that he's wrongdoing [by NOT doing what he's been told], is to persuade him that "the people say so". Chances are most people do not understand that one of the most noteworthy "digital assets" of a political campaign manager nowadays is, well... Google.

The following article explains how this is possible, in a very clarified manner, by utilizing a contrivance that fully automates the aforementioned "trick" of "the people say so", but on steroids. On the other hand,  you didn't really expect that what you voted for, would've been what you were promised...

Right?

http://news.sciencemag.org/brain-behavior/2015/08/internet-search-engines-may-be-influencing-elections

I think people doubt mostly because they don't want him to be correct about precious metals going down more, $usdollar going higher until 2017, and a horrific global (potentially mad max with war and pandemic) collapse starting to accelerate as of October.

Having studied him closely for 3 years (and having a brain that works somewhat like his and getting inside his thinking to the point where I was writing his blog posts on this forum before he wrote them), I put 80% likelihood the only influence is MA's wish to protect the masses. Thus he favors collectivized "solutions" because that is the only possible way to "protect" the masses.

MA's error is that (as he has admitted about markets) that nature is set up to make the majority fail, because that is the only way we get evolutionary refinement of survival-of-the-fittest. Without such decay, then the universe would trend to 0 increase in entropy and then time would stop and past = present = future and everything would cease to exist. Thus any solutions will come from the minority and be new frontiers.

So I guess in his love for humanity he somehow convinced himself to become irrational.

I wish he would be forced to read this.

I am wondering though. He has slowed down his blog postings. Perhaps he is reading my writing and is contemplating that I am correct. I can dream can't I.

Edit: I believe MA refuses to accept the above rationality, because it would admitting that there must be an elite group and that his life's work would amount to helping the rich get richer without saving the masses. This troubles him deeply. This is why he has decided that the only way to have a better world is for the leaders to be upstanding individuals. But this is irrational because it is a fact of physics that a power vacuum must be filled with power not weakness. And corruption in the Logic of Collective Action is more powerful than non-corruption.

I've read his writings for years. I really found it interesting how he was writing from his prison cell for so long. He has been correct about many things in the past, although I don't know if he is currently being influenced or not? Many doubt his writing now.

On G7 cooperation on BTC regulation, I told everyone so 2 years ago and the common retort was the world is a big place and USA can't control every nation. Here is the reality. All the more reason we'd be get our anonymous internet technologies robust and pronto. The more often I am typing here, the less I am programming, so that is not a good sign.

tabnloz, the State is doing the injustice. Leveraging the State to restore justice is an oxymoron.

I still don't agree that lacking a book education and having a shorter lifespan is some position on a greater than and less than number line. Statistics lie (study Taleb's Anti-fragility). These are just different cultures. If the Aboriginals want to join modern society, they can. If not, who I am to judge their choice.

I don't know enough about the history of the Middle East. Clearly the allied powers left a power vacuum over there when they removed Saddam Hussein and again Gaddafi. Also the USA hanging Saddam on CNN news, sent out a message to all Muslims that power is right and heads are not sacred. We are deserving what we are getting for allowing the Bush family to take control as they did when Prescott Bush financed Adolf Hitler. Again we can't make it right by involving the State again in social justice.

I don't agree equating to rednecks armed to the hilt with AR-15s. It is precisely moving back to local community rule and removing the power of the State that can restore sanity to the world. I saw a statistic that gun owners err 0.0018% of the time, and doctors err 17% of the time. What should we ban first gun owners or doctors?

But we can't get there just with physical local call to arms. The only way to disarm this morass now is to bankrupt the State and the Deep State.

And thus I go back to coding to try to make that a reality...

AUG 7 DIGEST: G7 Pledges Support for 'Appropriate' Bitcoin Regulation; Market Research Analyst Qualtrics Adds BTC Rewards

G7 representatives announced support for “appropriate regulation” of virtual currencies; online survey giant Qualtrics added bitcoin as a rewards option for consumers who respond to surveys issued by its enterprise clients, and more top stories for August 7.
The G7 representatives who met in Germany in June of this year announced support for “appropriate regulation” of virtual currencies. As can be read in the group's summit statement, the G7 aims to oversee digital currency activity in order to prevent terrorism financing, which it deems a major priority.

The group stated:
“We will take further actions to ensure greater transparency of all financial flows, including through an appropriate regulation of virtual currencies and other new payment methods.”

http://cointelegraph.com/news/115077/g7-pledges-support-for-appropriate-bitcoin-regulation-market-research-analyst-qualtrics-adds-btc-rewards

I post the above with no further comments. If you have something to add, please do.

Why can't you guys figure out how to quote properly. The last posts from both of you are a mess. Can't you understand that {quote}{/quote} tags are matched pairs   If you can't figure that out, I am wondering if either of you can figure out what you are talking about, much less mechanical repair.  

What is wrong with trollercoaster's sentence which you have bolded? You are displaying your bias. You think primitive is a negative attribute. Thus you think they start at a disadvantage. This is the entire generative essence of feminism, multiculturalism, etc I am writing about upthread where man thinks he is superior to nature.

And you think you are not in the grip of this madness but you are.

Objectivity would be to see that everyone is diverse and diversity is not a number line. Try reading this blog essay of mine for some insight:

http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html#Algorithm_!=_Entropy

We don't need you to try to figure who needs help. Let nature handle it. It does it quite well with competition, free markets, serendipity, accretive knowledge formation, etc.. Again I cover all the reasons in that essay including Taleb's Anti-fragility.

As for the jokes about Aborginals, Ozzies joke about everything. Don't take it too seriously mate. I have an Ozzie friend who at age 60 is still referring to the filipinas as "birds". He doesn't actually mean they are really birds.

Don't we have more important things to accomplish than worry about the odd personalities and cultures?

But it is interesting how some Europeans often are deeply offended by any affront to multiculturalism even if just a butt of humor. They have been deeply indoctrinated into that madness. They believe it is objective to have someone else decide what is fair and egalitarian for someone else.

One poignant example of the hypocrisy of it all is this 70 year old chain smoker+drinker from Netherlands who can tell me with a straight face that everything about socialism is ethically upstanding, and yet there he is spending all of his days watching porn and he got his wife from a bar and she fucks her cousin when he is abroad and they have a son that is 100% filipino.

I never really judge him for that. I shrugged my shoulders and thought, "more power to him, to each his own". Then I hear from my Belgium friend that the Dane criticizes me behind my back for my anarchistic lifestyle.

So much for knowing what is best for others or any other objective metric of standing. Let the free market decide where everyone ends up.

Maybe the Aborginals will be only ones to survive the global smashup coming. That would be ironic. Well I know how to eat camote. I am making headway.

I negotiated cash 33 - 50% settlements for my credit card debts in 2014 which depleted about $10,000 of my remaining precarious level of "savings" (cash). That should indicate the priority I perceive the threat of being in debt going into bankster premeditated deflationary collapse. My options were to default and have them pile on fees and interest, or settle and deplete my savings.

During deflation with interest rates rising, your debt burden can only increase. You'll get trapped and you can't get up. If you are going to declare bankruptcy then get it done before the court systems enter gridlock or totalitarianism.

No I don't think the common man will win by delaying and being saddled with debt. What will happen to you is anyone's guess, but none of my guesses are nice to contemplate.

I know some Americans were able to default on their mortgages and continue to live in their house due to technicalities and other issues during the subprime collapse after 2008. But we were in early innings. Now we are moving towards the hardcore end games. People shouldn't get lulled to sleep by past performance. According to MA we are heading into a confluence of cycles that only comes around every 309 or 618 years. Not good.

Edit: on the way up the debt mountain, everyone goes out of their way to relieve hardship and the brutal realities of nature. On the way down the debt cliff, it is a free fall into the brutality of nature. Communities which didn't eat the poison and remained self-reliant pull together. Communities that ate the poison spin apart into brutal chaos. Communities of tough love remain functional and compassionate. Communities of free love diverge into dysfunction and brutality.

Question for TPTB:

In the event of a "collapse" what should citizens do in terms of their debt (say credit card debt/student loans, etc)  Will that be a big deal, or will the creditors get the short end of the stick?

Looking at Greece, the creditors seemingly got their demands (and then some) while acquiring hard assets from greece.  Will citizens holding debt be in trouble (or risk being sent to these fema camps?)

Bottom line is the USA is too big.

The only real change would be the candidate that said he was going to downsize the Federal government and return more power to the States.

Rather I hear all these candidates talking about moar Big Gov solutions. As if the free market can be top-down fixed.

Trump thinks he can top-down engineer the Middle East, trade, etc.. Sounds great, until you think about it. I don't expect Americans to think.

Edit: Rand Paul might be the exception, and Trump said, "I like him, but he can't win" (may have been referring to Ron Paul not Rand). You can see Trump wince when Rand Paul speaks, because Trump believes in "get 'er done" top-down organization. Rand Paul follows more in the line of anarchist thinking of Ron Paul and Libertarians. Trump is correct. There is no way to elect a President who would downsize the DEEP STATE. What I heard from Cruz was somewhat reasonable but appears to me to be not a powerful enough personality to be electable.

MA is misreading the implications. Yes Americans are rising up to support a candidate that appears to be anti-establishment, but again they will be fooled by their desire to have change originate from the Federal government. The only real change can come from grass roots actions.

And so I think I better go back to programming, don't you.


The surgeon candidate Carlson is humorous. But so naive. You can find an example of this phenomenon over in Cypherdoc's thread.


Edit#2: Drudge poll says Cruz came in second in the debate to Trump:

http://www.drudgereport.com/now.htm


Edit#3: the protectionism that leads to war has begun:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/629e0260-3c3d-11e5-8613-07d16aad2152.html


Drudge report inciting Americans to lose their non-involvement in external conflicts culture:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3186229/ISIS-executes-19-girls-refusing-sex-fighters-envoy-reveals-sex-slaves-peddled-like-barrels-petrol.html

TPTB are playing the Americans like fools (which they are!).


Edit#4: put me on the podium with those candidates and I'd be executed the next day, because I would tell the people the truth which they don't want to hear.

This seems to be the subconscious end game of leftists. It is frustrating to watch happen!