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legendary
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December 10, 2013, 02:58:05 AM
I was also trying to trade with Peezr but after I mentioned the word "escrow" I never heard from him again.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
December 10, 2013, 02:52:47 AM
WTB 5 @ 0.135BTC using escrow.
Two sellers are selling MSC at 0.135 in the order book.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
December 10, 2013, 02:37:06 AM
WTB 5 @ 0.135BTC using escrow.

Edit: done.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
December 10, 2013, 02:36:15 AM
I think maybe it is acceptable to make the thief's address public here? If Doron does not mind his address is disclosed too, disclosing that transaction may help us to trace it to the thief.
Actually I have the saved info so if Doran agrees i can put it here. Pouncer has to agree also

I still don't quite get it.

Are you claiming you didn't do it or are you a regretful thief?

You claimed you got hacked? At what point?
I'm not claiming i got hacked. Its what happened. Did you remember ppl got hacked a few days ago?
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
December 10, 2013, 12:57:33 AM
I think maybe it is acceptable to make the thief's address public here? If Doron does not mind his address is disclosed too, disclosing that transaction may help us to trace it to the thief.
Actually I have the saved info so if Doran agrees i can put it here. Pouncer has to agree also

I still don't quite get it.

Are you claiming you didn't do it or are you a regretful thief?

You claimed you got hacked? At what point?
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
December 10, 2013, 12:54:42 AM
My bid 20 @ 0.138 have been fulfilled. Please help removing the bid. Thanks.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
December 10, 2013, 12:48:51 AM
I think maybe it is acceptable to make the thief's address public here? If Doron does not mind his address is disclosed too, disclosing that transaction may help us to trace it to the thief.
Actually I have the saved info so if Doran agrees i can put it here. Pouncer has to agree also
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
December 10, 2013, 12:46:54 AM
I think maybe it is acceptable to make the thief's address public here? If Doron does not mind his address is disclosed too, disclosing that transaction may help us to trace it to the thief.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
December 10, 2013, 12:27:13 AM
Following the incident reported by Doron404 below, here is a summary of what transpired (timestamp in UTC +13hrs):

09-12-2013 8:41:42
I received an escrow request from Doron404 (buyer) for an MSC trade with Peezr (seller) worth a total of 2.88 BTC

09-12-2013 11:51:46
I sent out a PM to buyer & seller containing Trade Details based on information received from Doron404 through the escrow form. The Trade Details PM requested both parties to verify that the information contained therein was correct, and if so to proceed according to the instructions.

Escrow address given was: 1HjQ76Ssnoqof8Bb2Fifi28M1VJWV5maGF

09-12-2013, 14:50:35
I received a PM from Doron404 asking what happened to the BTC which he just sent to xxx since the MSC has not been delivered.

09-12-2013, 14:55:57
I received a PM from Doron404 asking if escrow address was xxx, suspecting that Peezr had swapped the escrow address with the BTC receiving address when replying with a quote.

09-12-2013, 15:27:42
I sent PM to Doron404 confirming that the escrow address was 1HjQ76Ssnoqof8Bb2Fifi28M1VJWV5maGF as per my original PM, but has been swapped by the seller. This was said based on the quote from Peezr embedded in Doron404's PM to me.

Who is liable for this loss?
In my Trade Details PM, I requested both parties to use the "Reply to All" button when communicating, so that the entire conversation regarding a particular trade can be easily tracked by all parties. I did not foresee this potential exploit, and hence did not warn users to refer to original PM when sending to escrow.

I have successfully executed 93 escrow trades totalling 682.76 BTC using this this system before this incident.
If there is consensus amongst the community that I am liable, I am prepared to compensate Doron404 for this scam.

I would also like to announce that I will be ceasing to act as an escrow agent in this thread with immediate effect.

Pouncer

I have temporarily disabled the escrow request form until we resolve this issue. We don't want anyone else to be a victim.  


2) Please use escrow service provided by Maxmint and Pouncer.

He did, but Peezr changed the escrow address to his personal address very sneaky.

Huh How? I assume the escrow address is PMed by Maxmint or Pouncer. How could Peezr change it?

Moreover, if he did so, then we should report to the moderator and ban his account immediately.

I believe he replied all, and in quotes he changed the escrow address to his address, and Doron probably copied the escrow address from peezr's PM instead of the original pouncers message
exactly.
No don't do that. If pouncer agrees, I'd like to reimburse him. My account is the one who has gotten hacked. I changed my password so futurely hope it doesn't happen again.
member
Activity: 205
Merit: 10
December 10, 2013, 12:07:17 AM
Following the incident reported by Doron404 below, here is a summary of what transpired (timestamp in UTC +13hrs):

09-12-2013 8:41:42
I received an escrow request from Doron404 (buyer) for an MSC trade with Peezr (seller) worth a total of 2.88 BTC

09-12-2013 11:51:46
I sent out a PM to buyer & seller containing Trade Details based on information received from Doron404 through the escrow form. The Trade Details PM requested both parties to verify that the information contained therein was correct, and if so to proceed according to the instructions.

Escrow address given was: 1HjQ76Ssnoqof8Bb2Fifi28M1VJWV5maGF

09-12-2013, 14:50:35
I received a PM from Doron404 asking what happened to the BTC which he just sent to xxx since the MSC has not been delivered.

09-12-2013, 14:55:57
I received a PM from Doron404 asking if escrow address was xxx, suspecting that Peezr had swapped the escrow address with the BTC receiving address when replying with a quote.

09-12-2013, 15:27:42
I sent PM to Doron404 confirming that the escrow address was 1HjQ76Ssnoqof8Bb2Fifi28M1VJWV5maGF as per my original PM, but has been swapped by the seller. This was said based on the quote from Peezr embedded in Doron404's PM to me.

Who is liable for this loss?
In my Trade Details PM, I requested both parties to use the "Reply to All" button when communicating, so that the entire conversation regarding a particular trade can be easily tracked by all parties. I did not foresee this potential exploit, and hence did not warn users to refer to original PM when sending to escrow.

I have successfully executed 93 escrow trades totalling 682.76 BTC using this this system before this incident.
If there is consensus amongst the community that I am liable, I am prepared to compensate Doron404 for this scam.

I would also like to announce that I will be ceasing to act as an escrow agent in this thread with immediate effect.

Pouncer

Pouncer, you did a great job as an escrow agent and you are not liable for the loss in my opinion. The instructions for payment of the BTC were in your original PM. The victim was tricked by an unscrupulous and dishonest person, who is liable for this loss. What he did amounts to a criminal offense -- theft.

sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
December 09, 2013, 11:54:33 PM
Following the incident reported by Doron404 below, here is a summary of what transpired (timestamp in UTC +13hrs):

09-12-2013 8:41:42
I received an escrow request from Doron404 (buyer) for an MSC trade with Peezr (seller) worth a total of 2.88 BTC

09-12-2013 11:51:46
I sent out a PM to buyer & seller containing Trade Details based on information received from Doron404 through the escrow form. The Trade Details PM requested both parties to verify that the information contained therein was correct, and if so to proceed according to the instructions.

Escrow address given was: 1HjQ76Ssnoqof8Bb2Fifi28M1VJWV5maGF

09-12-2013, 14:50:35
I received a PM from Doron404 asking what happened to the BTC which he just sent to xxx since the MSC has not been delivered.

09-12-2013, 14:55:57
I received a PM from Doron404 asking if escrow address was xxx, suspecting that Peezr had swapped the escrow address with the BTC receiving address when replying with a quote.

09-12-2013, 15:27:42
I sent PM to Doron404 confirming that the escrow address was 1HjQ76Ssnoqof8Bb2Fifi28M1VJWV5maGF as per my original PM, but has been swapped by the seller. This was said based on the quote from Peezr embedded in Doron404's PM to me.

Who is liable for this loss?
In my Trade Details PM, I requested both parties to use the "Reply to All" button when communicating, so that the entire conversation regarding a particular trade can be easily tracked by all parties. I did not foresee this potential exploit, and hence did not warn users to refer to original PM when sending to escrow.

I have successfully executed 93 escrow trades totalling 682.76 BTC using this this system before this incident.
If there is consensus amongst the community that I am liable, I am prepared to compensate Doron404 for this scam.

I would also like to announce that I will be ceasing to act as an escrow agent in this thread with immediate effect.

Pouncer

I have temporarily disabled the escrow request form until we resolve this issue. We don't want anyone else to be a victim.  


2) Please use escrow service provided by Maxmint and Pouncer.

He did, but Peezr changed the escrow address to his personal address very sneaky.

Huh How? I assume the escrow address is PMed by Maxmint or Pouncer. How could Peezr change it?

Moreover, if he did so, then we should report to the moderator and ban his account immediately.

I believe he replied all, and in quotes he changed the escrow address to his address, and Doron probably copied the escrow address from peezr's PM instead of the original pouncers message
exactly.
member
Activity: 75
Merit: 10
December 09, 2013, 10:53:34 PM
Please withdraw my buy order. I have received enough sell offers for now Smiley

thnks
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
December 09, 2013, 10:43:18 PM
Really sorry that this happened to Doron404 Sad
I removed Peezr from the order book. Peezr, if you think you're wrongly accused, feel free to make a statement here and clarify things.

Lesson to learn: When using escrow, always check the original PM (coming from the escrow agent) and don't trust quotes.
As an additional security measure, I will from now on sign escrow details with the GPG key in my signature.
Firstly, I didn't change the addresses. Secondly, I just responded. But when i clicked it i saw coins, but not in my wallet nor escrow's wallet. I changed my password because i believe I've been hacked, but i'm pretty sure nobody would believe it anyways. I also notified admin about it. This forum gets hacked way too much.
Ola
sr. member
Activity: 311
Merit: 250
December 09, 2013, 10:03:29 PM
Please add a sell order for 38 MSC at  0.132 each asap. Also pm me if you want to do this deal..We are definitely using escrow. Thank you.
full member
Activity: 257
Merit: 100
December 09, 2013, 09:43:53 PM
How do I go about moving mastercoins if I sell to someone?

Also please post 300 mastercoins for sale at 0.131

Thanks
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
December 09, 2013, 07:42:52 AM
We have a first prefunded sell order (DGulari, 200 @ 0.1999) in the order book.
DGulari already sent 200 MSC to an escrow address of mine so buyers can purchase these Mastercoins directly from me – no need to contact the seller first.
Anyone interested in this order, send me a PM and I'll let you know a payment address.
hero member
Activity: 711
Merit: 532
December 09, 2013, 07:40:06 AM
Anyone knows the reason why two transactions are shown in mymastercoin.com but not in mastercoin-explorer and masterchest?

http://mymastercoins.com/default.aspx?XID=4720
http://mymastercoins.com/default.aspx?XID=4723

Thanks a lot.
I believe this is now resolved. None of the transactions from yesterday afternoon were showing up in mastercoin-explorer, but they are now. Tachikoma looked into it.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
December 09, 2013, 06:40:42 AM
Anyone knows the reason why two transactions are shown in mymastercoin.com but not in mastercoin-explorer and masterchest?

http://mymastercoins.com/default.aspx?XID=4720
http://mymastercoins.com/default.aspx?XID=4723

Thanks a lot.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
December 09, 2013, 06:26:01 AM
Really sorry that this happened to Doron404 Sad
I removed Peezr from the order book. Peezr, if you think you're wrongly accused, feel free to make a statement here and clarify things.

Lesson to learn: When using escrow, always check the original PM (coming from the escrow agent) and don't trust quotes.
As an additional security measure, I will from now on sign escrow details with the GPG key in my signature.
newbie
Activity: 47
Merit: 0
December 09, 2013, 06:11:57 AM
I guess I should have written don’t trade with peezr period.

- Warning -
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I wanted to trade with peezr 20 MSC @ 0.11 yesterday.

He offered not to use an escrow in order to save time and to start with a small trade of 1 MSC @ 0.11.

I sent the 0.11 BTC to this address: 19nJ1YSGAew2bzvvTCmKVRmBY4FtF216hB

He said he received the 0.11 BTC but never transferred the 1 MSC.

Than he stopped all communication - I have evidence of all the discussion in Gmail. The Gmail he used is:  Tarren Smith ‫‎<[email protected]>‎‬

Watch out and don’t trade with him without escrow.

Afterwards I traded with smiley35 and Faraday – Maxmint was the escrow and everything went great. (Maxmint is doing great job)

Lesson learnt – DON’T trade without Escrow.

Better be safe than sorry.





Now you tell me ... Sad

Problem is, Even using Escrew didn't help!
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