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jr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 7
April 12, 2018, 03:51:31 AM
Hello everyone!

When only merit entered on the forum, I started testing - I sent various amounts to different people (I tested the functionality). The next day, comrade actmyname lowered me to the trust with the words:
"Gave max merit to a post that clearly did not deserve it.
Likely alt. ".
I maintain my account from 2015 persistently. My account is my work and life. I wrote actmyname, but he ignores me.
Can tell me how to proceed? Yes, I am guilty, but not so much :-(
I sended PM theymos too, but he is silent too.  Embarrassed
why this attitude towards people has become on the forum?
Give away is good, for a lot not good. You can not do that, instead of encouraging the recipients you have given them the attitude they get easily.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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April 12, 2018, 03:31:57 AM
indeed the question about the rules of achievement made by the people responsible for this forum of course we can not do anything to reject it, although this gift rule can make it difficult for us to raise our rankings to move up to the next level, we should certainly keep abreast of and appreciate what has become the rule here.

Did you use google translate to make this post? I am interested as the language used seems strange to me, this cant be how someone is taught to speak English surely?


The above language makes perfect sense if you happen to be a martian... hello?

nope 100% not martian otherwise Lauda would be in here translating for us..
jr. member
Activity: 126
Merit: 3
Joe's Signatureless Challenge
April 12, 2018, 03:05:08 AM

Most people who get upset about how many points that are being distributed have more points than they know what to do with and have no idea how hard it is for lots of the elite to even give away one point. Merit from this perspective is centralized as its definitely being controlled by they few!


That isn't really true. Every merit that I award creates almost one other merit in the community, and those are distributed amongst all levels of decent posters.

I’m not sure how one merit can create another one as the majority of people can’t give merit back to other people. It’s a bit like being able to vote but only if your of a certain age that will allow you to vote. You can say someone does a good job but they can’t say it back.

That said it was a sweeping statement and your merit distribution and many of the others in this thread look to be well thought out tbf.

Receiving 1 merit gives you half a sMerit, so for every 2 merits you get, you have one to send to others. It's like being able to vote but only if you contribute, which isn't a bad thing.

There is no question that what you are absolutely doing the right thing with your merit and contributing the forum massively.

But i just see things a little different and it’s just an opinion.

This guy has not been proven to have alts that I have Read but he has negative trust for doing something stupid.


Accounts Connected:
chixka000, netfreak199, Camus, visionary, alexberezov, identifyuser

Proof:

6 of the accounts joined the PECUNIO Signature bounty. At the time they joined in pairs within 5 - 15 minutes of each other and when I looked at the profiles they signed out at similar times
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G8pBrPNw5gkpwCYLbr-ggqL3HBGSGCud_bUz-gojAfI/edit#gid=1761784155

I looked at chixka000 & netfreak199 first and noticed that they made posts at a similar time and they logged out at similar times. I then looked at another campaign that they were in and found their ETH addresses.

This was just one campaign that I looked at and discovered that all of these smaller accounts were contributing to one account at similar times too.
Netfreak transferred    3,191.48936170213 MWAT to chixka000 15 days ago
lehard transferred    3,191.48936170213 MWAT to chixka000 15 days ago
alexberezov transferred   4,851.359064618577 MWAT to chixka000 16 days ago
identifyuser transferred  3,538.009719773167 MWAT to chixka000 16 days ago
Camus transferred  47,285.45675578803 MWAT to chixka000 16 days ago
visionary transferred  47,285.45675578803 MWAT to chixka000 16 days ago

If you look here chixka is asking about a bounty that he isn't involved with

This has been a long campaign, one I've very much enjoyed. Looking forward to the final spreadsheet being shared
is there any information about calculation of stakes for bounty? at least approximate date? I didn't find announcements from bounty Manager.

However alexberezov was and if you look above alexberezov has transferred bounty earnings to chixka

They have also been connected through merit

Merit summary for alexberezov,
January 25, 2018, 03:58:00 PM: 50 from chixka000
January 25, 2018, 03:39:16 PM: 50 from NetFreak199

MWAT Campaign all 7 names in the youtube campaign and 4 of them joining within 30 minutes of each other.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c_63IbIczvWvAE33b-QgpgfmlN2FzMK7TuTWUpytXds/edit#gid=1724170213

Related Addresses:

ETH addresses that link the accounts together.

alexberezov
Code:
0x55515EDbe90d7d8f29De195E13D02bB43f9Ee8f0
Netfreak
Code:
0x822d9cd5b86391cdb5e4743089b8cc9f964195bf
lehard
Code:
0x8d25806367854781767728Ec23E9d2d9cF13A9E6
identifyuser
Code:
0x8Ede1DbeeCde0AE2859f9735cA0470c8210c0e0C
Camus
Code:
0x84D547a3D8F70857801EA98654Df62258d5ea3ae
visionary
Code:
0x52683d2A38676De03D1029cdAe1f2729473b8b7F
chixka000
Code:
0xAaEedA078AcF2e037FFf742c564dc11eBa815b7f


Miscellaneous:

As it stands I have messaged the PECUNIO bounty manager twice and he didn't respond and the spreadsheet still says that they have been accepted but they have moved onto another signature bounty
Thrive Signature bounty
6 of these accounts joined up and what I also noticed is that these accounts are joining in at the end of the campaign each time.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10-0pamtd_CjyZjmmFZ5Q_0HSNhrRC2i-E5HqVokTEjo/edit#gid=1453105285

Yet that guy is swanning around with probably 7 accounts that I can count by now none had negative trust that I could see? Even though he has been caught out by lots of users who have actually risked him blasting them back with lots of accounts with negative trust.

I’m not saying anyone’s opinion is wrong and people can certainly do what they wish with the trust but unless the person has been caught out with alt accounts and proven to be cheating in bounties etc I’m not sure if it’s ok to suppress what they do with their smerit.

I am not saying the op is genuine. He more than likely isn’t but in my opinion I have seen some people being dealt with inconsistently. Not by yourself of course. I won’t say any more on this it’s just my opinion.

legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 3282
April 11, 2018, 11:01:04 PM

Most people who get upset about how many points that are being distributed have more points than they know what to do with and have no idea how hard it is for lots of the elite to even give away one point. Merit from this perspective is centralized as its definitely being controlled by they few!


That isn't really true. Every merit that I award creates almost one other merit in the community, and those are distributed amongst all levels of decent posters.

I’m not sure how one merit can create another one as the majority of people can’t give merit back to other people. It’s a bit like being able to vote but only if your of a certain age that will allow you to vote. You can say someone does a good job but they can’t say it back.

That said it was a sweeping statement and your merit distribution and many of the others in this thread look to be well thought out tbf.

Receiving 1 merit gives you half a sMerit, so for every 2 merits you get, you have one to send to others. It's like being able to vote but only if you contribute, which isn't a bad thing.
jr. member
Activity: 126
Merit: 3
Joe's Signatureless Challenge
April 11, 2018, 05:10:17 PM

Most people who get upset about how many points that are being distributed have more points than they know what to do with and have no idea how hard it is for lots of the elite to even give away one point. Merit from this perspective is centralized as its definitely being controlled by they few!


That isn't really true. Every merit that I award creates almost one other merit in the community, and those are distributed amongst all levels of decent posters.

I’m not sure how one merit can create another one as the majority of people can’t give merit back to other people. It’s a bit like being able to vote but only if your of a certain age that will allow you to vote. You can say someone does a good job but they can’t say it back.

That said it was a sweeping statement and your merit distribution and many of the others in this thread look to be well thought out tbf.

legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 2472
https://JetCash.com
April 11, 2018, 04:14:08 PM

Most people who get upset about how many points that are being distributed have more points than they know what to do with and have no idea how hard it is for lots of the elite to even give away one point. Merit from this perspective is centralized as its definitely being controlled by they few!


That isn't really true. Every merit that I award creates almost one other merit in the community, and those are distributed amongst all levels of decent posters.
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 23
April 11, 2018, 03:58:22 PM
It very looks suspicious mate you merited max at 50 smerit to the member in a local forum that we don't know if it is a constructive post for you. No doubt that is your really alt account and the worst thing you abused merit system that strictly prohibited here in the forum.
Well, you're not the one who got painted red trust on DT members here because of abusing the merit system, why you should risk you high account on that?

Then it's better to start another one and I'm sure you will be stuck up at jr.member or member rank. Grin
jr. member
Activity: 126
Merit: 3
Joe's Signatureless Challenge
April 11, 2018, 03:30:06 PM
Hello everyone!

When only merit entered on the forum, I started testing - I sent various amounts to different people (I tested the functionality). The next day, comrade actmyname lowered me to the trust with the words:
"Gave max merit to a post that clearly did not deserve it.
Likely alt. ".
I maintain my account from 2015 persistently. My account is my work and life. I wrote actmyname, but he ignores me.
Can tell me how to proceed? Yes, I am guilty, but not so much :-(
I sended PM theymos too, but he is silent too.  Embarrassed
why this attitude towards people has become on the forum?

I am not sure why people are beating you up over giving away 50 merit points to be honest. I have seen a few posts with 50 merit been added and to be fair no one knew at the start what value the points had. 25 or 50 could have been the norm. No one at the start of merit would have assumed that you must give 1 or 2 points away at a time if they did it would have taken you years to spend your points.

Most people who get upset about how many points that are being distributed have more points than they know what to do with and have no idea how hard it is for lots of the elite to even give away one point. Merit from this perspective is centralized as its definitely being controlled by they few!

I guess there is not a lot that you can do expect for hope that that guy fixes the trust for you but it has to be said either everyone with a 50 merit award on a post should have their trust dropped or they should change the maximum allowable points per post.

Good Luck

sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
April 11, 2018, 03:21:25 PM
Hello everyone!

When only merit entered on the forum, I started testing - I sent various amounts to different people (I tested the functionality). The next day, comrade actmyname lowered me to the trust with the words:
"Gave max merit to a post that clearly did not deserve it.
Likely alt. ".
I maintain my account from 2015 persistently. My account is my work and life. I wrote actmyname, but he ignores me.
Can tell me how to proceed? Yes, I am guilty, but not so much :-(
I sended PM theymos too, but he is silent too.  Embarrassed
why this attitude towards people has become on the forum?

thats sounds like great news the more people are pissed of about this forum the sooner we will get all a new one.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 11105
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
April 11, 2018, 03:07:07 PM
indeed the question about the rules of achievement made by the people responsible for this forum of course we can not do anything to reject it, although this gift rule can make it difficult for us to raise our rankings to move up to the next level, we should certainly keep abreast of and appreciate what has become the rule here.

Did you use google translate to make this post? I am interested as the language used seems strange to me, this cant be how someone is taught to speak English surely?


The above language makes perfect sense if you happen to be a martian... hello?
member
Activity: 308
Merit: 22
April 11, 2018, 10:25:11 AM
This is one of the advantages of the merit system. We won't have "legendary" members like you anymore.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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April 11, 2018, 07:29:38 AM
#99
indeed the question about the rules of achievement made by the people responsible for this forum of course we can not do anything to reject it, although this gift rule can make it difficult for us to raise our rankings to move up to the next level, we should certainly keep abreast of and appreciate what has become the rule here.

Did you use google translate to make this post? I am interested as the language used seems strange to me, this cant be how someone is taught to speak English surely?
member
Activity: 462
Merit: 14
April 11, 2018, 07:23:52 AM
#98
In fact, merit system and merit points don't break anyone's life if they don't join the forum only for getting money by spamming.
Spamming endemic to earn money in the forum is coming to the end.

Thanks Theymos for launching merit system.
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 284
March 05, 2018, 11:40:34 AM
#97
just tried, but you gave 50 merits, that is too much for a try. Have you ever read theymos's thread? Merits and sMerits are used for respect only. But anyway, a negative rating for the first time is a little too  tough, I think it should be a neutral.

From the looks of it, no he didn't read it. What do you mean about: Merits and sMerits are used for respect only?
Correction: Merit can be compared to as a Respect, not a synonym of sort. And sMerit are used to gain Merit.

My dear seniors fast I respect and then question please suggest and guide me, because I am in New just enter rank - Jr member just seniors to help me to foram how to merit in rank increases. Suggest me..

We appreciate your respect, but to be frank mate, you should first improve on your communication skills before we can provide you help.

This whole topic is amazing, money can't buy you Merit, therefore you can't buy reputation or "power". You have to work and earn for it.
It eliminates the rich from attaining all the reputation.

Nope, you're wrong about that. It is very obvious that many politicians gain more power if they have more money. Let's say you are a candidate for being president, but you don't have the funds to support your campaign, therefore you're powerless.

I'm always creating two liners post, and whether it is helpful or not I kept posting like that, I deem the contribution to a constructive post is when you know the statement that you construct is decipherable for a human being not by a robot.

He's right, take a look at this:
HODL by elux
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 2
March 05, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
#96
My dear seniors fast I respect and then question please suggest and guide me, because I am in New just enter rank - Jr member just seniors to help me to foram how to merit in rank increases. Suggest me..


First of all you need to improve you English. This will help you on other online forums as well and may be with your job as well (depending on which field you are in). Since it will take some time, you can try to get merits by posting infographic on unique topics here.

just tried, but you gave 50 merits, that is too much for a try. Have you ever read theymos's thread? Merits and sMerits are used for respect only. But anyway, a negative rating for the first time is a little too  tough, I think it should be a neutral.

I do not know which 50 merits are you referring to. As per your current rank, you are a Jr Member and have 4 merits. You only need 6 more merits to reach to the next level. I checked your ratings and you have got no negative trust as well .
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
March 05, 2018, 09:02:09 AM
#95
just tried, but you gave 50 merits, that is too much for a try. Have you ever read theymos's thread? Merits and sMerits are used for respect only. But anyway, a negative rating for the first time is a little too  tough, I think it should be a neutral.
newbie
Activity: 156
Merit: 0
March 05, 2018, 08:47:26 AM
#94
My dear seniors fast I respect and then question please suggest and guide me, because I am in New just enter rank - Jr member just seniors to help me to foram how to merit in rank increases. Suggest me..
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 10
Merit me or don't.
March 05, 2018, 08:35:44 AM
#93
This whole topic is amazing, money can't buy you Merit, therefore you can't buy reputation or "power". You have to work and earn for it.
It eliminates the rich from attaining all the reputation.
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 118
March 05, 2018, 08:10:15 AM
#92
Yes Merit broke my life too, even my post are constructive no one can merit me, lonely no one cares for the newbie or jr.member how do we ranked or earned merit, what should we do? For now many ICO are accepting participants that have a merit or Member up, newbie and jr.member are now suffering.

Alot of frustration with the new merit system, but it was needed!
I too will get a delayed rank up, and dont see much difference in my posts that are helpfull or just my opinion on coins.

But instead of complaining, try to see which posts get merit and try to achieve the quality thoose users provide Smiley Before rank was just time and posts, which made it a paradise for bots.
I got so tired of seing posts like "great ico, cant wait to invest" on pure mining coins i actualy appreciate the merit system even though it takes longer for me to rank up.
jr. member
Activity: 246
Merit: 2
February 07, 2018, 02:12:15 AM
#91
Yes Merit broke my life too, even my post are constructive no one can merit me, lonely no one cares for the newbie or jr.member how do we ranked or earned merit, what should we do? For now many ICO are accepting participants that have a merit or Member up, newbie and jr.member are now suffering.

Your posts are all pretty much just two liners. Not the worst I've seen but they don't really contribute anything constructive and this is the problem we had previously. Anyone can just create as many accounts as they want, write a few words or at most a hollow sentence or two to make it look like they're putting in the effort then hey presto over time you've got yourself a handful of Full Senior/Hero Member accounts. Try offering something with actual thought and not just in two sentences. I think if all your posts here follow some sort of pattern - which yours do - then you're doing something wrong. Your posts will now need to stand out to get noticed and when you're just writing generic two liners they're just going to get lost and buried in all the other spam.
I just saying this not on me but the other member here "now I am pity", I know that you are veterans in this, but I fight for the feelings who are trying to make themselves better on this community/forum, I want to say this that many of us are here to be notice but no one cares because not post but also in ranked, I think someone can moderate/managing giving merit those who are trying their best. Sorry dude but I can't help it my feelings.
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