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hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 564
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February 06, 2018, 12:08:09 PM
#90
After reading the topic, OP has mistaken his sMerit with Merit, therefore saying "So I had 1000 merits so I tested all the possibilities" or "I had 1000 merits, for me 30 do not mean anything.".

But even if that's so, why would you give it to some random dude when you can find some quality post to give it instead, even to that HODL post. Sending some random user 50 merit just for the purpose of testing (like sending 1 merit instead of 50 isn't practically the same thing) is plain dumb.  

I think members who did it within 1 -2 days after the merit system was launched can be given benefit of doubt. It is very much possible that they did this by mistake.

Clicked on a random user +merit, typed in 50 and pressed "send" by mistake...
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 1
February 06, 2018, 12:07:46 PM
#89
50 Merits is really big just to test it's functionality why not even try sending a single sMerits to your desired post/person just to test it out.

I think members who did it within 1 -2 days after the merit system was launched can be given benefit of doubt. It is very much possible that they did this by mistake.
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 133
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February 06, 2018, 11:54:08 AM
#88
Hello everyone!

When only merit entered on the forum, I started testing - I sent various amounts to different people (I tested the functionality). The next day, comrade actmyname lowered me to the trust with the words:
"Gave max merit to a post that clearly did not deserve it.
Likely alt. ".
I maintain my account from 2015 persistently. My account is my work and life. I wrote actmyname, but he ignores me.
Can tell me how to proceed? Yes, I am guilty, but not so much :-(
I sended PM theymos too, but he is silent too.  Embarrassed
why this attitude towards people has become on the forum?
I think 50 Merits is really Big can be accused with Merit farming. but on the other side still the merits that you're going to give to a single post is still your decision right? Most likely Theymos would be really silent about that. you can talk to lauda and actmyname about your issue with your trust. prove it to them that guy deserves your 50 merits.


50 Merits is really big just to test it's functionality why not even try sending a single sMerits to your desired post/person just to test it out.
jr. member
Activity: 70
Merit: 3
February 06, 2018, 11:26:55 AM
#87
Hello everyone!

When only merit entered on the forum, I started testing - I sent various amounts to different people (I tested the functionality). The next day, comrade actmyname lowered me to the trust with the words:
"Gave max merit to a post that clearly did not deserve it.
Likely alt. ".
I maintain my account from 2015 persistently. My account is my work and life. I wrote actmyname, but he ignores me.
Can tell me how to proceed? Yes, I am guilty, but not so much :-(
I sended PM theymos too, but he is silent too.  Embarrassed
why this attitude towards people has become on the forum?

I think I am the right person to answer this. I used to do SEO for clients and all my work used to come through a single forum. I was banned there for a small mistake and all work (about $5000 monthly) was gone. It took me some time to recover but I learnt one thing, it is not a nice idea to depend for living on something that is not in your control. This account should not be  your work and life.
sr. member
Activity: 630
Merit: 263
February 06, 2018, 07:07:42 AM
#86
My opinion is that merit is a very controversial tool. I do not want users to be able to influence the fate of other accounts. This can lead to serious abuse and manipulation. Even if the merit of destroying one person's life, it has no right to exist. The bitcoin has gained recognition due to its decentralization and deregulation. I am surprised that the forum where each member is a user of cryptocurrency introduced regulatory elements. I may be wrong, but that's my opinion.
copper member
Activity: 434
Merit: 278
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February 06, 2018, 06:52:37 AM
#85
~snip~

I'm always creating two liners post, and whether it is helpful or not I kept posting like that, I deem the contribution to a constructive post is when you know the statement that you construct is decipherable for a human being not by a robot.
legendary
Activity: 2828
Merit: 3038
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February 06, 2018, 06:28:41 AM
#84
Yes Merit broke my life too, even my post are constructive no one can merit me, lonely no one cares for the newbie or jr.member how do we ranked or earned merit, what should we do? For now many ICO are accepting participants that have a merit or Member up, newbie and jr.member are now suffering.

Your posts are all pretty much just two liners. Not the worst I've seen but they don't really contribute anything constructive and this is the problem we had previously. Anyone can just create as many accounts as they want, write a few words or at most a hollow sentence or two to make it look like they're putting in the effort then hey presto over time you've got yourself a handful of Full Senior/Hero Member accounts. Try offering something with actual thought and not just in two sentences. I think if all your posts here follow some sort of pattern - which yours do - then you're doing something wrong. Your posts will now need to stand out to get noticed and when you're just writing generic two liners they're just going to get lost and buried in all the other spam.
jr. member
Activity: 227
Merit: 3
February 06, 2018, 05:18:35 AM
#83
Giving 50 merits is not a testing but rather a clear abuse of using merit. Seems soniclord dislike the way of merit system while nullius enjoying merit.  Smiley
AGD
legendary
Activity: 2069
Merit: 1164
Keeper of the Private Key
February 06, 2018, 04:45:36 AM
#82
I didn't go through all the 4 pages, but OP already realized, that he does not have 1000 Merits to send to other people, but 200?  Huh
copper member
Activity: 434
Merit: 278
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February 06, 2018, 04:45:27 AM
#81
~snip~

It looks like case closed by nullius

I also test the new merit system but a 50 merit to a random users is like receiving 0.05BTC on my hidden wallet.dat
Not like I can send 50 merit or 0.05BTC anyway
jr. member
Activity: 246
Merit: 2
February 06, 2018, 03:08:52 AM
#80
Yes Merit broke my life too, even my post are constructive no one can merit me, lonely no one cares for the newbie or jr.member how do we ranked or earned merit, what should we do? For now many ICO are accepting participants that have a merit or Member up, newbie and jr.member are now suffering.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
February 05, 2018, 10:39:11 PM
#79
Its late to blame your self testing is okay but giving 50 for not a deserving post is an trust issue that's why it caught somebody eyes. maybe next time try when your testing get some approval to admin so that you can know what will be that consequences of your act. the merit system is new that`s why we must ask question before we do something suspiciously.

^ ^ ^

Good example of someone who needs to cry themselves to sleep before the advantages of merit come to light.
newbie
Activity: 143
Merit: 0
February 05, 2018, 10:37:52 PM
#78
Its late to blame your self testing is okay but giving 50 for not a deserving post is an trust issue that's why it caught somebody eyes. maybe next time try when your testing get some approval to admin so that you can know what will be that consequences of your act. the merit system is new that`s why we must ask question before we do something suspiciously.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
February 05, 2018, 10:10:35 PM
#77
Not sure if it was an innocent mistake on soniclord's part or not, but reading what has happened post said mistake i can see he's not done himself too many favors. Still giving nullius +50 merit for a post lambasting him was pretty hilarious Cheesy

Merit is not an ever flowing well.... it will eventually dry up.  We need to give the system a month or two before it evens out - and even more time should the administrator create new merit sources.
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
February 05, 2018, 10:07:38 PM
#76
It is easy to cause suspicion when you give 50 points to a post which is not of high quality.

As a manager has the right to make such a decision! You are always the PM administrator, and the administrator is disgusted!

Hope for self-reflection!
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 3146
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February 05, 2018, 11:11:23 AM
#75
Not sure if it was an innocent mistake on soniclord's part or not, but reading what has happened post said mistake i can see he's not done himself too many favors. Still giving nullius +50 merit for a post lambasting him was pretty hilarious Cheesy

Yes, and if you check this one too /use translate if needed/ > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28966041

Giving 10 to beggars. You can see many people abusing the system, but there are also people reporting them.
sr. member
Activity: 474
Merit: 285
Brave New World
February 05, 2018, 10:58:01 AM
#74
Not sure if it was an innocent mistake on soniclord's part or not, but reading what has happened post said mistake i can see he's not done himself too many favors. Still giving nullius +50 merit for a post lambasting him was pretty hilarious Cheesy
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2610
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
January 31, 2018, 04:39:05 PM
#73
It's taken me 28 posts to "earn" 50 merit points. It p's me off that some people are being given 50 points for average or worse posts. This is why I think merit points should be awarded singly.

Jet Cash, at 01:08:46 UTC today, I sent you one of my (then relatively few) sMerits as to your complaint about your status on another thread; it was not the first one I’d sent you in that thread, either.  You may presume that I understand your situation.  I also have spent some time lurking in your threads in Serious Discussion and Ivory Tower.  You may presume that I appreciate good posts and good posters.

I am also presuming here:  I presume that you are referring to me.  Correct me if I’m wrong.

Thereupon, I invite you to peruse my post history from start to finish, and also the list of recent merits awarded to me.  Most of both are in Development & Technical Discussion, which should give you a hint.  So should this:

  • For personal reasons, I was inactive between 2018-01-05 02:24:31 and 2018-01-29 23:58:40.  Thus, I was inactive for almost the first five days of the merit system; and I have now only been active for less than 48 hours of it.
  • Since I had previously made quality posts which people remembered, I accrued 17 merits whilst completely inactive.  After I became active again, my older posts accrued not less than another 19 merits.  All of those were in Development & Technical Discussion.  All were technical in nature.  5 points at once were for one of my posts in a discussion of Bech32 involving one of BIP 173’s authors.
  • Within my first 24 hours of renewed activity, I earned 22 merits for new posts.  Most were in Development & Technical Discussion.  Most were for technical posts.
  • I could continue, but I think I made my point.

Now, generally, am I one who should be said to make “average or worse posts”?

In this thread, I was given quite ordinary merits by multiple persons earlier on.  I kept up with this thread as it heated up, because I loathe forum garbage, and I don’t want to see the new merits system wrecked by farmers.  I pushed soniclord’s buttons, deliberately.  He first responded by spilling forth some pertinent investigative information, as I expected and desired; that better established the timeline.

Then, he responded by simultaneously throwing 50 merits in my face and negative-trusting me.  That, I could have neither expected, nor even imagined.

At first, I was actually upset by the merit points.  I want to earn those, and do it in a natural manner by continuing to write quality posts.  I do put in considerable effort and time; frankly, I also want some measure of how valuable my posts are to others who simply have nothing to say in reply; in December, I’d oft wondered about that.  Now, I am unapologetically proud at my aptitude for earning merits; in a matter of days, I had earned merit points almost equalling my activity level.  I had 79 merits, purely on the merits!  I did not want a dump of 50 merits tossed in due to getting into a flamewar with a whack job who has bizarre ideas of revenge.

Then, as I said above, I realized that I fully, meritoriously earned these, too:

The 50 merits temporarily befuddled me; I didn’t know what to do with them.  I place great pride in earning merits by meritorious action.  Then I realized, I did earn these.  If I am being treated as actmyname and Lauda combined, I fully deserve +50.

I wrote that before I saw your post.  (I prepare all my posts in a text editor, not a browser textarea, and archive them on my local disk.)

If your derisive remark was directed at me, I invite you to look to the substance of I’ve posted.  I am comfortable standing on that.


Edit:  P.S., to give you an idea of how much I detest spam:  My mod report stats currently say, “You have reported 151 posts with 100% accuracy”.  Almost all of that occurred in the month of December.  I started actively using this account on 1 December 2017, and was absent for most of January.
jr. member
Activity: 112
Merit: 5
January 31, 2018, 04:16:17 PM
#72
It's taken me 28 posts to "earn" 50 merit points. It p's me off that some people are being given 50 points for average or worse posts. This is why I think merit points should be awarded singly.
I can totally understand your pain and frustration, but what else can we do? We might deem some of our posts are of high quality, but if there is no one to recognize any of it as high quality post, it doesn't matter at all in the end, life still continues.

I would be ecstatic if I got 50 merit points for just 28 posts.  I obviously am posting in the wrong forums.  Clearly, I'm going to be a Jr. Member for another week or so because of the time requirements, but I'm also limited by merit. 

Speaking to OP's defense, I think you should pull up the posts on the possible alt and compare and contrast viewpoints and if they are all on the same threads.  I don't see much of a gain to sending 50 merits randomly or even to an alt unless he's trying to just level up get another bounty account.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2610
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
January 31, 2018, 03:33:30 PM
#71
So, so, so...  Well, well, well,” again.  I stepped away briefly due to other immediate obligations, then took up other replies which I’d been neglecting—and now, what have we here?  I don’t actually shoot from the hip; and this took a little while to figure out:

soniclord has treated me both as he treated Lauda, by throwing 50 merits at me, and as he treated actmyname, by giving me retaliatory negative trust feedbackI must be doing doubly right!


I am thrilled at this endorsement.  I would be honoured to frame it and hang it on my wall.  Also, I am laughing so uncontrollably that I find it difficult to type this post.

Ahem—

soniclord, I was wrong:  You are not either stupid or crazy.  You are both stupid and crazy.

The 50 merits temporarily befuddled me; I didn’t know what to do with them.  I place great pride in earning merits by meritorious action.  Then I realized, I did earn these.  If I am being treated as actmyname and Lauda combined, I fully deserve +50.

The negative trust will have no effect on me whatsoever—as is known to anybody who understands how this forum’s trust system works.

As for you, you started this thread with a desire to be relieved of one negative trust feedback.  Now you have two, from actmyname and Lauda.  Congratulations.  No, make that three:  After I post this, I will add mine, too.  It will have no practical effect on you now.  But I will do this just in case I someday in the future become widely trusted.


Now that you’ve torched your career of shady, spammy forum dealings, I do expect that you have a new job option:  Write the definitive manual on how best and fastest to ruin your reputation, humiliate yourself, and totally destroy your Bitcoin Forum Legendary account.  It may not be a best-seller; the market is such a small niche.  But your expertise on the subject is incisive.

HTH, HAND.
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