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staff
Activity: 3136
Merit: 570
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January 31, 2018, 01:39:28 PM
#70
It's taken me 28 posts to "earn" 50 merit points. It p's me off that some people are being given 50 points for average or worse posts. This is why I think merit points should be awarded singly.
I can totally understand your pain and frustration, but what else can we do? We might deem some of our posts are of high quality, but if there is no one to recognize any of it as high quality post, it doesn't matter at all in the end, life still continues.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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January 31, 2018, 01:32:43 PM
#69
It's taken me 28 posts to "earn" 50 merit points. It p's me off that some people are being given 50 points for average or worse posts. This is why I think merit points should be awarded singly.

So you have the earnt the equivalent of 3.5 periods of max activity in a week. So it may piss you off but this won't slow you down. At this rate 10 weeks and you will have the needed merit for legendary..
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 2472
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January 31, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
#68
It's taken me 28 posts to "earn" 50 merit points. It p's me off that some people are being given 50 points for average or worse posts. This is why I think merit points should be awarded singly.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 13
January 31, 2018, 01:08:29 PM
#67
I maintain my account from 2015 persistently. My account is my work and life. I wrote actmyname, but he ignores me.
Can tell me how to proceed? Yes, I am guilty, but not so much :-(

I would like to add one thing that most people missed here. If an account made on an online forum owned by a third party is your "work and life", you really need to rethink about your life priorities.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 359
January 31, 2018, 11:25:39 AM
#66

the fact of the matter is that I can not prove my innocence. in the eyes of all, I sell merits or I pump my alt accounts. (but they can not prove it - they just lower me) - it's not right!
me my money is enough to deal with such nonsense

You better start to gather some prove if you can, but I don't know what kind of prove to be shown in this case. And from my point of view, even though you can prove that you re innocent from selling merit points or pumping alts,still it is like you were embracing a spam poster from a local board on a low quality coin thread by sending that merit points. Even though it is for a testing matter, it will be catogerized as a merit spam activity. That is not the purpose of the legendary member given the mass amount of merit points.
It is like this situation, you dont like what rapist have done but you have a porn video with raping scenario activity. And when people find out, you re not guilty of a rape activity, but people will look negative upon you.
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1002
January 31, 2018, 10:37:50 AM
#65
The only persons who can remove your negative trusts on your account are the DT Members who rated your account, and by giving 50 merits points to a normal post just doesn't seems logical enough in the first place, I would advise you to respect the forum rules in order to make this forum a better place for every users.
Thanks for the reminder, I know about this and I repeat again - it was my personal mistake and misunderstanding of the work of the new system. I regretted it many times
staff
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Merit: 570
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January 31, 2018, 10:35:17 AM
#64
The only persons who can remove your negative trusts on your account are the DT Members who rated your account, and by giving 50 merits points to a normal post just doesn't seems logical enough in the first place, I would advise you to respect the forum rules in order to make this forum a better place for every users.
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1002
January 31, 2018, 10:24:37 AM
#63
There are much to do to prove that you re not guilty beside only making a thread about it. And i guess it will be hard to prove that you re not guilty because the lack of evidences. If you have enough evidences, maybe you can talk to the one who gives you red trust.

To start with, I think that soniclord shot himself in the foot by first trying to retaliate with negative trust, then waiting three days, then PMing actmyname—and then waiting only three hours for a reply before posting this thread!  (This was apparently in the late evening in actmyname’s time zone, too.)

Add to this that to exonerate himself of guilt, soniclord would need to prove that he has an IQ not exceeding 75.  I think that is the functional requirement for innocently awarding 50 merits as a “test” to a random (pinky-swear! random!) post which just so happened to be in a scamcoin airdrop thread.  Well, either severe mental retardation—or a state of insanity, replete with psychotic delusions.  There can be no other way for someone to actually do that innocently.  It is implausible, improbable, impossible.
thank you for your response
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
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January 31, 2018, 10:15:41 AM
#62
There are much to do to prove that you re not guilty beside only making a thread about it. And i guess it will be hard to prove that you re not guilty because the lack of evidences. If you have enough evidences, maybe you can talk to the one who gives you red trust.

To start with, I think that soniclord shot himself in the foot by first trying to retaliate with negative trust, then waiting three days, then PMing actmyname—and then waiting only three hours for a reply before posting this thread!  (This was apparently in the late evening in actmyname’s time zone, too.)

Add to this that to exonerate himself of guilt, soniclord would need to prove that he has an IQ not exceeding 75.  I think that is the functional requirement for innocently awarding 50 merits as a “test” to a random (pinky-swear! random!) post which just so happened to be in a scamcoin airdrop thread.  Well, either severe mental retardation—or a state of insanity, replete with psychotic delusions.  There can be no other way for someone to actually do that innocently.  It is implausible, improbable, impossible.
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1002
January 31, 2018, 10:10:43 AM
#61
For OP, I am sorry to read this thread, negative trust indeed is a game changer if you got one, well you can say it broke your life.
But if you re a legendary member, i think you already know that this forum always update the rules if anything new to be implemented. And i guess it is a usual/normal things to search about something new before you try or do something with it.Because you give 50 merit points to someone random (your point of view) and the post is not good too, you can be accused of things, such as :
1. Selling merit points.
2. Sending merit points to your alts.
3. Etc
There are much to do to prove that you re not guilty beside only making a thread about it. And i guess it will be hard to prove that you re not guilty because the lack of evidences. If you have enough evidences, maybe you can talk to the one who gives you red trust.

And for many times, i already say this so many times since merit points implemented because people keep telling that this forum should be decentralized because it is about cryptocurrency and bitcoin.
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No ! This is a forum, a space rented/made by someone and that person gives us that space to make community. It is owned by that person who created it and hosted it. He/She can make anything to this forum because it is his/her. We do not pay for their expense to make this forum to be happen, and we dont own this forum. It is a business that is created by someone and we cant say this is our forum and He/She does not need to hear us out about some decision he/she made. It is just happen that this forum main topic is cryptocurrency.

the fact of the matter is that I can not prove my innocence. in the eyes of all, I sell merits or I pump my alt accounts. (but they can not prove it - they just lower me) - it's not right!
me my money is enough to deal with such nonsense
member
Activity: 271
Merit: 10
January 31, 2018, 10:06:42 AM
#60
You do realise that people can ask for payments in order to send other users merits

That must be beyond faux pas:  It must result in an instant automatic permaban.

It can’t always be caught; but it should be made risky enough that no craven blackguard with a high-value account would find it economical.

It will happen and a lot more than what you think  Merit system is bad for the forum and its somethign I would never ever use again

I don’t know you; but a reasonable person might ask if your opinion of what is “bad for the forum” might be coloured by your being a Jr. Member with zero merit, as you are at present.

Edit—P.S., to be clear about my own biases or lack thereof, all my current merit was earned by me; none came from any prior status.  I ranked up to Member at the the activity rollover yesterday, 30 January.  This may be easily verified by anybody who examines my post history and calculates the activity periods.

I used to run forums although not for crypto and I can tell you a lot of the users post for their own interests not the forum interests. As you can see just from the posts allready users are getting stung by the merit system. At the end of the day its up to the owner/s of the forum how they run but from my experience merit causes nothing but problems on forums.
so why not do something like a vote - to ban a person or spare? This is both democracy and decentralization

I think voting to ban or spare is also not a good idea because if the person is innocent and some people dont like him/her the vote could go the wrong way and also if the person is in the wrong but very well liked then the person could get away with it. For me when iv used merit systems on my own forums in the past it just caused a whole lot of problems for the users of the forum.
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1002
January 31, 2018, 10:06:13 AM
#59

N.b. that according to actmyname’s profile, he appears to be in the -05:00 time zone.  Therefore, you PMed him at 21:08:51 in his time zone; and you absolutely, positively expected his response by just after midnight (!).

Again, this was three days after you attempted retaliatory action against him.

Did I get that right, now?  I am asking nicely.  Please advise if I be mistaken about anything.

(Protip for the peanut gallery:  Shake a guy like this enough, and he will usually cough up something interesting!)
not everyone sleeps at night, people that are connected with administration or with programming usually prefer to work at night. Even if it came at night, no one bans to answer even after a few days - am I wrong? What is our date today? Oh, 31 already in the yard.
and another question personally to you, dear nullius - why do you answer questions asked by other people?
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 359
January 31, 2018, 10:02:27 AM
#58
For OP, I am sorry to read this thread, negative trust indeed is a game changer if you got one, well you can say it broke your life.
But if you re a legendary member, i think you already know that this forum always update the rules if anything new to be implemented. And i guess it is a usual/normal things to search about something new before you try or do something with it.Because you give 50 merit points to someone random (your point of view) and the post is not good too, you can be accused of things, such as :
1. Selling merit points.
2. Sending merit points to your alts.
3. Etc
There are much to do to prove that you re not guilty beside only making a thread about it. And i guess it will be hard to prove that you re not guilty because the lack of evidences. If you have enough evidences, maybe you can talk to the one who gives you red trust.

And for many times, i already say this so many times since merit points implemented because people keep telling that this forum should be decentralized because it is about cryptocurrency and bitcoin.
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No ! This is a forum, a space rented/made by someone and that person gives us that space to make community. It is owned by that person who created it and hosted it. He/She can make anything to this forum because it is his/her. We do not pay for their expense to make this forum to be happen, and we dont own this forum. It is a business that is created by someone and we cant say this is our forum and He/She does not need to hear us out about some decision he/she made. It is just happen that this forum main topic is cryptocurrency.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
January 31, 2018, 09:51:33 AM
#57
(By the way, kudos for trawling his post history.  I didn’t bother after I caught him in repeated lies, because I hate liars on principle.  Proofs are above in this thread.)
I did not lie and do not lie, your evidence has no basis, do not mislead people!

For one example, and mainly for the benefit of people who jump to the end of the thread:  I showed above that you (futilely) to retaliate against actmyname with negative trust between 9 hours and 35 hours after he (actually) bled your trust.  You said it was “over three days”.  Proofs are above.

Edit to add:  It should go without repeated mention, only an abject moron would buy your crock of a story about throwing 50 merits to a random user in an airdrop thread as a “test”.  Yes, and I have a bridge to sell.
you wrong! first message about my red trust i send from forum via PM to actmyname:


So, wow, let me get this straight—taking here what you post at face value:

  • You attempted to retaliate with negative trust against actmyname three days before contacting him.
  • You PMed actmyname at “12:08:51 PM”.  According to your forum profile page, you appear to be in time zone +10:00; thus, this time works out to 02:08:51 UTC.
  • You then posted this thread complaining that actmyname “ignores” you at 05:08:33 UTC—just under three hours after you PMed him.

N.b. that according to actmyname’s profile, he appears to be in the -05:00 time zone.  Therefore, you PMed him at 21:08:51 in his time zone; and you absolutely, positively expected his response by just after midnight (!).

Again, this was three days after you attempted retaliatory action against him.

Did I get that right, now?  I am asking nicely.  Please advise if I be mistaken about anything.

(Protip for the peanut gallery:  Shake a guy like this enough, and he will usually cough up something interesting!)
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1002
January 31, 2018, 09:31:49 AM
#56
Feel sorry for you, in my opinion, this forum is totally a toy of admins, they can do whatever they want

Do I look like an admin to you?  You do look like an idiot to me.

(I was proud to rank up from Jr. Member just yesterday.  The forum is totally my toy!)
You look idiotic now. not knowing all the circumstances, you can not make your assumptions, if you did not know
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1002
January 31, 2018, 09:29:42 AM
#55
(By the way, kudos for trawling his post history.  I didn’t bother after I caught him in repeated lies, because I hate liars on principle.  Proofs are above in this thread.)
I did not lie and do not lie, your evidence has no basis, do not mislead people!

For one example, and mainly for the benefit of people who jump to the end of the thread:  I showed above that you (futilely) to retaliate against actmyname with negative trust between 9 hours and 35 hours after he (actually) bled your trust.  You said it was “over three days”.  Proofs are above.

Edit to add:  It should go without repeated mention, only an abject moron would buy your crock of a story about throwing 50 merits to a random user in an airdrop thread as a “test”.  Yes, and I have a bridge to sell.
you wrong! first message about my red trust i send from forum via PM to actmyname:
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
January 31, 2018, 09:29:25 AM
#54
Feel sorry for you, in my opinion, this forum is totally a toy of admins, they can do whatever they want

Do I look like an admin to you?  You do look like an idiot to me.

(I was proud to rank up from Jr. Member just yesterday.  The forum is totally my toy!)
newbie
Activity: 84
Merit: 0
January 31, 2018, 09:27:07 AM
#53
Feel sorry for you, in my opinion, this forum is totally a toy of admins, they can do whatever they want
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
January 31, 2018, 09:24:34 AM
#52
(By the way, kudos for trawling his post history.  I didn’t bother after I caught him in repeated lies, because I hate liars on principle.  Proofs are above in this thread.)
I did not lie and do not lie, your evidence has no basis, do not mislead people!

For one example, and mainly for the benefit of people who jump to the end of the thread:  I showed above that you (futilely) to retaliate against actmyname with negative trust between 9 hours and 35 hours after he (actually) bled your trust.  You said it was “over three days”.  Proofs are above.

Edit to add:  It should go without repeated mention, only an abject moron would buy your crock of a story about throwing 50 merits to a random user in an airdrop thread as a “test”.  Yes, and I have a bridge to sell.
full member
Activity: 546
Merit: 105
January 31, 2018, 09:20:58 AM
#51
you can argue for a long time, but everyone understands that the technology is still new and I do not understand why I need to hack those who did not understand it right away

Look at me pls)

I was expecting to become Senior Member in a fewh days.
And I always been posting only good quality posts.

And what now?Activity ticked and im still Full Member.They implemented this Merit just in time dammit.Fewh days before my promotion.

I wana tell you that NOONE will give anything here to anyone.I doubt that people will care to spend their sMerit for free or something like that.

For me its a disaster :/
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