Topic: Merit decay (Read 992 times)

Oh that’s interesting. Exactly how were you able to make these deductions that after earning merits and got them Smerits, it varnishes over time if not used in meriting?

Mind you, you don’t get to see a users Smerit although, you could make some calculations to it from provided data in bpip.org but still, you wouldn’t be accurate always as there could have been some merit activities within a time frame that are washed up after the range.

So how are you finding these data and getting these conclusions.

Smerits aren’t sent to profiles, that’s not accurate. They are sent on posts and it is reflected on the post while, accumulated on your profile’s merit log.

A reason why merit are not sent very often is the reverse of what you’ve captioned in your last statement. Posts not being of good quality or meritable standard by a user’s judgement.

Yes a agree that local boards should have merit sources of which I have been able to do some research and found out that each local boards has a merit source though some have little allocation of merit but how can someone register on this forum without knowing how to interact with users here in  lingua franca (English language) when most of the information here are in English which is accepted by all or is it that each local board has a language translator that helps in translating English to their local languages? Even if they have a translator, is it that they will only engage in conversations in their local languages without moving to other sections like the bitcoin discussion which is one of the major boards of this forum.

Yes you are right that mate but we can not deny the fact that there are some users here in this community that recieve a lot of merits but they didn't send it to other users but we can not blame them cause it's Thier choice to hold thier sMerits. Also you are right that mate there are merits in some local boards that help their fellow countrymen to receive some merits in order to grow in this community. But those local boards don't have  merits source then some users visit the global board in order to receive some merits.

Tons of topics have already been created related to it, and most of them disagree to decay because its nonsense if you keep holding those merit it does not have a monetary value at all it's just a token of appreciation, and also you can see a lot of quality members keep donating merit to those who really deserved, with their contributions in community, and we know merit could be a subjective matter.


Every local board has their own merit source and giving to those who contribute a lot to their local, some of the members going to other boards once they see their local doesn't have a good merit circulation at all.

Yeah it should have since it can motivate people to post a lot of good contents on their local boards since they know that there is a merit source would possibly give them a merit if they post something helpful in their community. But I guess some of the local boards are not been taken care of that's why we can see the result is not totally good since many choose to go to global sections of this forum for thinking that there post will get more recognition rather if they spend some time to post on their local boards. Yeah there are some people sharing there merit but I think that's not enough to cover the whole numbers of people seeking something good or helpful for them to reach their desired rank while understanding carefully on the topic been discussed there.

I think local boards should have merit source because that would help a lot to enable the locals that do not go out due to their language difference be merited. I believe their are lot's of good post that have not been over looked  as a result of the fact that the locals do not visit the general board or apply for a review as a result of language difference barrier.

Of lately, the community have been in a bubble of merit saga which is not going down well with her members.  As a result of this there have been a call needing the attention of the admin to look into the local boards application for merit source and I believe the admin is doing something about it and would announce it in due course.

In fact, if the cycle keeps turning, there will be good Merit transactions. and now I think the active members of the forum are aware of that. The merits they had would be useless to them. distributing it to those who deserve it will be more beneficial.
but we still have to understand that each person has different criteria for posts that deserve merit or not. just believe that when we distribute Merit to those who deserve it, then we will also get it in the future. it will come back to us.

None yet so far and I think all people is good on current situation since usually people spread out their smerits to people they think deserve to get it or simply giving back what you receive a merit to other people.
Its just our smerits are so limited that's why sometimes we cannot help other people who's in need to get merits especially those deserving newbies who post some good post in this forum to help them achieve their goals. Hopefully we can see a lot of new merit source especially on local boards so that we can see a good circulation of merits and lots people will rank up.

But for now people should do all they can to contribute so they can receive a merit then gain smerit to share to other people.

Exactly and that's my perception, too. I don't know why some if not many posters here in this thread are still blabbering about sMerit decay. To my knowledge this has never happened. To those blabberers: please stop spreading unchecked rumors or false information, such spreading is a disease!

IIRC when the Merit system was announced by theymos there was a clear statement from him that there's no decay, but he could implement it. There's no point in hoarding your sMerits, maybe except when you vividly oppose the Merit system and refuse deliberately to be a part of merit points flow.

What do the blabberers not understand here?


Never happened to my knowledge. It may be different with sMerits that merit sources receive monthly, but those sMerits are special anyway, as they're created out of thin air for merit sources specifically. If a merit source doesn't distribute its special sMerits given monthly, I think they'll receive less special sMerits in following months. But what do I know, I'm no merit source, I read about it somewhere in this forum.

Yes that is just the reality and welcome idea, but many have the stand that smerit remain their own as they work it out themselves and can't be persuaded as the choice to release it lies within them, which is quite understandable. but regards to quality post allot is already in the forum which can be meritable for any having such possession without release can not be of help if promoting others we should at first gave the impact feeling that the young shall grow and we need people to take over our good work or else it die off growing people up transit and bring in continuity to any good work we have put in place.

So far, I have not heard or seen anyone on this platform complaining of their smerit vanishing or been taken away from them. I think it is an individual choice to decide on who to merit based on their post as it deserves it or not.
 I still believe that some people who found their way here without anybody guiding them might really have no idea about the smerit and how to access them but I believe with time those set of people would definitely learn to access it and do the needful by spreading out their merit to those who deserves it through their quality posts.

many user's in this community have different alt accounts and when they have a serious of workload the thing will affect their thinking and composition of articles in response, so when you read some persons post you can see that it's not comprehensive any longer,  so we can not blame merit sources because they have not seen a thread that catch their attention, and that's while some threads remain unmerited because their response is not formative, they are writing in the forum to meet up their weekly quota..so many alt accounts that is in forum is what's increasing spamming in the forum.

Merit sources have their own life and they don't receive anything by distributing merits. They do their merit source task as volunteers and you can not ask merit sources spend their 24 hours per day to read all posts in the forum to find good posts and distribute all sourced merits.

The biggest reason is forum lack of quality posts, does not lack of sourced merits.

I counter back on this. Many old topics that were created before the merit system birthday, are good in quality and received a lot of merit, more than younger topics since 2018.

Well, maybe that is the real reason why currently even some Merit Sources are not distributing much of the Merit they have. Because too many posts are general and not very interesting. It doesn't even seem very useful. But I sometimes explore old topics that were created when the Merit system didn't exist yet. And I was actually quite surprised because in the past the quality of posts on this forum was not as good as it is now. In other words, after the Merit system was introduced, the quality of posts on this forum increased quite rapidly. Where the quality of the discussion is also very well directed. And everyone tries to make their posts useful. But nowadays unfortunately everyone who has sMerit seems to have increased their ratings too. So even quality posts do not necessarily get merit at this time. In fact, I have collected several quality posts made by users on this forum that have not been awarded Merit by Merit Source. In the past I really liked providing a list of quality posts to Merit Source. And usually they will be given Merit. But for now I haven't done that for a long time. And maybe I should start doing it again. I realized I didn't have good quality. So what can make me useful in this forum is probably having to go around looking for good posts and submitting them to Merit Sources.

Do you know one of the major reasons why some persons doesn't earn a merit, its because of the low quality post they make, when you are a low poster you can post hundreds posts without earning [1 merit ] the most of people who earn a merit is people who work hard, I'm referring to before not now, at of that previous time like two years ago merit can be earn free but now a low quality post is earning a merit someone who is quality poster can not earn because of exchange of merit, so this forum has been polluted and that's while many people is lacking merit, those who bank sMerit do that because of they do exchange of merit

One should not hoard sMerit because there is nothing beneficial in it, especially since sMerit stored for a long time will burn out over time. sMerit obtained from accumulated Merit should be spent to help other members speed up their rank up, except for shitposters who only pollute the forum with spam. Everyone should appreciate every member who contributes to the forum with quality posts that can benefit other members. Giving Merit to other members should be done because the aim of implementing a merit system is to help each other or support each other to speed up rank up. Merit is not like a valuable asset like Bitcoin because it cannot be bought and sold and cannot be stored for a long time.

I quit don't get it, if smerits are been given to you just so that you can grow then it makes sense to take your unspent smerit away from you if you hoard them for too long, but mind you, is it fair?

Merits are rewarded to quality posters, they earned it, so they should be able to do what they like with what they've earned, don't you think? Who they are going to send their smerits to his the earners choice, this shouldn't cause problems.

Anyways, I don't even see any needs to hold smerits, I most times send them away when I got merited, there is no benefits in storing smerits on your account while reading through so many quality posts on the forum anyway.

I have thought about It My dear , But i cannot place My thought in any reasonable answer , the essence of send able merits is for them To send It accross To any quality post that worths meritable, but on a second thought I realised also that some individuals are very stingy in nature and they may think that hoarding more sendable merits on their profile will make them grow so fast .

In addition I also realised that most of them keeping sendable merits don’t explore the forum and  probably don’t read threads made by others , however, merits are meant to circulate across the members who have made quality post and a nice constructive post , so let’s try and spread our sendable merits to encourage others to grow.

The only way we can avoid this is if the person whose merits are getting decayed, stays active on the forum and contributes towards it.
I don't think there is any other way out for it. Merits only decay if the person is inactive for a long time or decides to hoard his merits which makes really no sense.

To my knowledge there hasn't been any sMerit decay so far. Show proof otherwise!

And due to sMerit sources getting sMerits on a periodic schedule, sMerits are also not really a scarce asset. It doesn't make sense and doesn't benefit you particularly to hoard sMerits. If some users do so, well, not my cup of tea.

In the beginning of my account I rarely sent out merits. Once I realized that this is not beneficial for me and for those posts which deserve to be merited, I changed my behavior. Now I'm mostly out of sMerits as I don't hodl them for long. The disadvantage of quickly redistributing sMerits is that I have rarely enough sMerits left to give more than very few merits to a worthy post.

You can't have all the cherries on a cake...