Topic: Merit decay - page 4. (Read 1063 times)

Sending out your smerit is a personal choice, but allowing your sendable merits to decay is not a good habit; this is because the people who gave you merits want you to grow in the forum; you should also send merit worthy posts to prevent the smerits from decaying, even though I have not seen any threads discussing decayed merits; only merits sources' smerits decay in order to await new merits allocation.

You may actually be right on saying that am only interested in merit but I want you to understand that everyone in this BTT forum needs merit in other to grow so it shouldn't look as if because my current threads are focused on discussion about merit then it now sounds as if I needed it more than anyone else. I know I'm a newbie and it is important for me to learn and make quality posts before I think of earning merits of which I'm trying my best and if you watch closely I do more of learning and making research before creating threads.

Maybe they misplaced the word HOLD, Hold should be associated with Bitcoin, when Bitcoin prices are soaring, Hold is a good solution to get bigger profits. Placing Hold on sMerit has no benefit at all, hoarding sMerit will be in vain because it will not provide any profit and sMerit that has been hoarded for a long time will burn out or can no longer be used. It is very unfair when you only receive Merit from other users as appreciation for contributions to the forum but you never appreciate other users' efforts with the sMerit you have.

Everyone is in control of his merits no matter how, you will have to chose whom to give and not, but for the benefits of those that may not be that active on the forum, you may discover that their merits are not sent due to this reason, those am seeing with the responsibility to make sure they disburse merits are the sources, others earned it and may choose to give or not, but the best ideal way it standard is for everyone to also send their smerits received back to the community, while we have a number of merit sources available to cover up for the inactive ones.

These Merits do not constitute a difference compared to merit sources, especially those sources that come with +500 sMerits. If these sources decide to stop sending, most of the new accounts will face problems in ranking up, as these sources are the ones who make the merit system continue and who make rank-up possible because it is at best.

the average amount that members (non-sources) can generate per month is 150 sMerits, assuming that the accounts receive 300 merits per month (which is difficult). Even if these accounts decide not to send any merits, the merit system still works because of the Merit sources.

OP, your recent threads show that you are concerned about merit. I understand your efforts to improve your rank, but you shouldn't be so frank.


It's sad to hear this. I witnessed how you despaired after having spent, or rather mistakenly lost, your last merits . But why save them? When you decided to return to the forum, weren’t you pleased to receive merit? Why should you have very high standards? Sometimes a post deserves attention just like that, and you shouldn’t regret the gift of a smile. There is a simple expression for this, and I think you will understand it: “Be simpler, and people will be drawn to you.”

OP, some people like to accumulate merit, and then, with a grandiose air, they like to create a topic for distributing merit, presenting themselves in some way as a merit source, and setting very strict conditions for posts that will be evaluated by them.


Weren't you the one who created a thread in your account's youth about how you feel obligated to reciprocate those who give you merits? If not, then I must have made a mistake. At that moment, I felt the same. And the fact that you were “accidentally” congratulated, I think, looked rather strange and stingy. We need to be simpler. 
Although this often happens, merits are exchanged within one's circle rather than simply given out for good posts.

There must be many reasons related to this problem. The low level of activity on this forum could also be one of the reasons. Or it could also be because the standard of quality of posts that someone expects is so high that he hasn't found good posts every time he explores this forum. Personally, I only send it if there is a post that really impresses me with its content. It doesn't matter if it is a long or short post. The important thing is that the content can amaze me and increase my insight. Maybe other users are the same as me. But if you want to see users who actively give sMerit then you can find users who are quite active in interacting on their respective local boards. Meanwhile, you can find the habit of hoarding sMerit among some users who are not active on local boards. This also happens not only to ordinary users but also to several Merit Sources. They may be too busy to review every quality post on this forum. Because I also feel like someone who works in the real world, sometimes my activity on forums is quite limited. That is, only between breaks and when you finish work. But still, Merit is the right of the user whether he wants to send it or not. Because sMerit won't disappear just because you hoard it.

over the years that I have been active here in the forum, I have not seen someone here say that their sendable merits have decayed because they don't use it. while there is a mention of merit decay on the merit page, it does not specifically say that sendable merit will automatically decay if not used.

Just try to understand that maybe they don't want to be involve on some controversy that's why they are so picky regarding on who are those people they want to send their merits. If you see those people send their merits then that means they really appreciate the efforts done by receiver so just respect their decision if they are not so active sending merits since its personal choice and anyone is free to decide for whatever they like.

Focus more to create a good post so that people will be convince to give you a merit and don't take those situation seriously since for sure they also know what they are doing so not worth to get bothered by activities made by some people regarding on that situation.

There's no one claimed that their smerits is decayed after a certain time even though you might have read it in the forum rules that the smerits eill be decayed if not used in the future. There's no point in hoarding smerits but you shouldn't sent your smerits for something else that's why it is not advisable to sell it or trade smerits. Merit system is used to prevent people to spam and rank up in the forum just by posting alone that can cause spamming because many people just joined bounties only.

I know it's not advisable to always keep your smerit, if you are having smerit, always make sure you distribute it. There are a lot of quality posts on the forum that are really worth it, and keeping your smerit won't add anything to your account. But from what you said, some people are always leaving their smerit to decay. I don't think anyone has made any posts on this forum before that they couldn't find their smerit. I am sure if some people's smerit decays, a post like that will have been seen on the forum here, but I haven't come across any before, which tells you that no one's merit has been decayed yet. Maybe we will see that in the future.

I don't really know the reason for some people to keep on holding their smerit, but if I can receive merit, I always make sure I send out my smerit instantly, I hardly keep my smerit in my account for days. But if I decide not to send my smerit out, that doesn't mean it's going to decay, you should know that.

This is typical newbie post on Bitcointalk. Newbies can’t seem to get enough of talking about merits and how older members do not want them to grow. Merits are meant to be given to quality posts only. Everyone has their own preferences for what they consider a quality post, so if you’re not getting merits it probably means you’re not meeting those standards or it could be your posts are just not getting visibility. You can report your best posts on this thread to get merit; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60895527

Well, sometimes I think members even forget they actually have merit to give out and that makes it look like they're intentionally hoarding it. However, if I may ask, is there any reason you don't find it alluring giving out merit? I know it can't be for lack of quality posts on the forum because constructive posts are littered here. Again, if it's a bore for you meriting posts, while not send them to merit threads to help others rank up?

Hmm, interesting well this clear my doubt because I have been quite curious too on the notice I always see when trying to send out smerits and it made me wonder if actually this was true because like you said I have seen account which are way old to the time of the airdrop merit at the implementation of the merit system wake up suddenly and start giving merit to profiles here and in the community. I just taught if this was actually true then alot of those won't have their sleeping smerits active to actually send out.

Hoarding Smerits is not a good habit, there are some people have enough Smerits aside the monthly allocation but they are not giving out those merits to the people that need it which have good post. And I don't think the introduction of demeriting system is a nice idea but let everyone one have enough sendable merits should distribute it to other users so that the meriting system will be very effective. There are some local boards and local language threads need merits but because there no merit sources are there so even the best or quality posts are there without good merits but some people have enough to give but lazy to give out. theymos should look into those accounts that hoarding the Smerits for more than 120 days and extract them from the to another source who gives regularly. So that the circulation will flow well.

I don't think sendable merits ever expire unless you are a merit source. For merit sources, their sMerits keep spawning up and they had to spend those smerits within a month I guess. If your sMerits from earned merits, I guess they never expire. I haven't heard that forum admins decayed anyone's sendable merits. Now, If you ask why some members do not spend their merits, it's up to them. Either they are not active anymore. Or, they don't feel that they should spend their merits. Or maybe they wait for a good post to dump their merits once in a while. I never had more than 20 sMerits I guess. I don't remember correctly. Sometimes, I see that I do not have enough merits to send.

Merit decay feature is still not yet implemented by theymos since the introduction of merit because user back then keep merit in circulation so there’s no point for decay feature. That feature is supposed to counter merit hoarding which didn’t happened.

Besides there’s a lot of merit source already that consistently have their merit allocation from theymos so this merit that send to inactive users doesn’t bear a lot of value anymore regardless if it’s decay or not because there’s still tons of merit in circulation.

Do people still send him the merit on the regular basis (if that's the common knowledge, that he doesn't send merit)? Imho, it doesn't make much sense to send merit to someone who clearly doesn't want to be a part of the merit system.

It is not so bad if the sendable merits are not distributed (which by the way do not decay), as there are additional merit sources (mostly users who have been around for a long time or outstanding users) who regularly receive a larger amount of merits to distribute. This alone ensures the liquidity and availability of merits.

It's either you did a wrong research or you are just assuming without making any effort to seek accurate information as regarding your topic. If you truly did, you would discovered that there's no any case of merit decay so far since the introduction of merit system. Now, I'm beginning to question how you got to find out your claim. If you think you are right in anyway, please reference any account here with such case and we'll verify.


This is what you should have centered on rather than making nonexistent finding. Despite that sMerit can not decay (as the case is so far) although the forum reserves the right to decay it anytime when necessary, it's not a good habit to hoard it for any reason. It has no benefits for you other than causing scarcity of merits in the forum. We have merits source to curb that thou but it's advisable for members to circulate the merit when they see a merit worthy post.