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Catenaccio

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Quote from: avp2306 on March 29, 2024, 04:12:34 AM

But still its up to the user if he want to use his smerit and I don't think merit decaying is an issue here since not all care about that since maybe they are not active giving merit to anyone and just give when they see a much more helpful post to the community but on normal day they are not much generous for sending their merits to somebody that they don't know.

If a user does not send his sMerit, that user does not care about sending it and if his sMerit decays by the forum, he will not care about it.

Issue only with decay of merit because it is related to account member rank but the admin does not want to decay either merit or sMerit.

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On some point smerit supposed to be sent and not to hoard but we can't force people to do what they don't like or been lazy to do

Forum has monthly sourced sMerit to merit sources and forum community don't lack of sMerit to circulate it.

There are two flows of sMerit, from merit sources and from forum members who are not merit sources. Problems on sMerit circulation only occur if both flows stop.

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Quote from: Tmoonz on March 29, 2024, 02:42:05 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on January 06, 2024, 10:21:01 PM

Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on January 06, 2024, 09:51:58 PM

I've got to find out that there are some profiles that have received whole lots of merits but some of those profiles don't circulate their sendable merits to others profiles thereby allowing the sendable merits to decay and become worthless.

How did you check it? if you only check by clicking their merit history, it's not accurate because the forum only show last 120 days activity. Moreover it's the user's right whether he want to spend his sMerit or not, there's no obligation sMerit must be spend.

Even though it was mentioned unused sMerit could be decayed by the administrator, but there's no proof someone claimed if his sMerit got deducted.

Yeah this sM merit decay issues has been on discussion for some time now and least I could say is that it is the sole right of any user to distribute his or her sMerit or not, however I don't think the sMerits decaying process has been implemented because no has seem to have complained about a missing sMerits.

But still its up to the user if he want to use his smerit and I don't think merit decaying is an issue here since not all care about that since maybe they are not active giving merit to anyone and just give when they see a much more helpful post to the community but on normal day they are not much generous for sending their merits to somebody that they don't know.

On some point smerit supposed to be sent and not to hoard but we can't force people to do what they don't like or been lazy to do that's why we should wait for people to give their smerits and be thankful if we receive from generous people here.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on January 06, 2024, 10:21:01 PM

Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on January 06, 2024, 09:51:58 PM

I've got to find out that there are some profiles that have received whole lots of merits but some of those profiles don't circulate their sendable merits to others profiles thereby allowing the sendable merits to decay and become worthless.

How did you check it? if you only check by clicking their merit history, it's not accurate because the forum only show last 120 days activity. Moreover it's the user's right whether he want to spend his sMerit or not, there's no obligation sMerit must be spend.

Even though it was mentioned unused sMerit could be decayed by the administrator, but there's no proof someone claimed if his sMerit got deducted.

Yeah this sM merit decay issues has been on discussion for some time now and least I could say is that it is the sole right of any user to distribute his or her sMerit or not, however I don't think the sMerits decaying process has been implemented because no has seem to have complained about a missing sMerits.

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Op though it's a matter of perception for me this your post broading my understanding that some hold smerit and it decay but as much is personal, one can only send to who it's chooses conceptionally, not being persuaded I will not say much about it. I distinct myself not to be border with someone privacy.

Ordinarily I think the forum is design to show love which run the system and make it more lively though I stand to be corrected as this your assertion may not actually be correct because I can say you have no proof or evidence to show, but if that happens to be true i don't see it to be ideal, but since is a matter of privacy one can't persuade person right.

Coyster

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Quote from: JustineCollins09 on January 16, 2024, 10:30:10 AM

are merits only transferable? can't people earn them?

You actually earn them, but it has to be sent or "transfered" to you by another member. So you have to make good and constructive posts and other users are going to send you merits if they like what you have posted and they think it deserves merits.

Quote from: moneystery on January 14, 2024, 06:42:15 AM

i see that people like that are selfish people, where they prefer not to distribute their merit even though there are many quality posts on this forum that need to be appreciated with merit. or if they don't have time they can give their smerit back to the merit source to be redistributed to posts that need it.

Mind you that there are quite a lot of users who don't care about the merit system (both sending and receiving merits), users like these don't care if they get merited and they hardly merit posts, TBH i won't call them selfish. I think we already have enough participants in the merit system, so we do not have to bother about those who don't care about it. Theymos just needs to add more MS's and increase the allocation of some existing MS's.

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Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on January 06, 2024, 09:51:58 PM

I've got to find out that there are some profiles that have received whole lots of merits but some of those profiles don't circulate their sendable merits to others profiles thereby allowing the sendable merits to decay and become worthless. The reason for sendable merits is for a user to send to other profiles in which they find their posts of good qualities and of Meritable standards but I wonder why some users choose to hoard this sendable merits and allowing it to vanish with time.
Is it a good habit to allow one's sendable merits to decay?

sendable merit is a personal choice to whoever the person wants to share the merit to because you can merit a post because of the quality many people find it very difficult to come across of quality post they feel like the post to what a merit before they can give the person merit, despite that sendable merits is meant to give another fellow that does not mean that you will allocate your sendable merits to a garbage posts, we have to follow some certain principles before we give out our merits, when we check round you can see that many people is not researching before they create a thread, what people that have smerit is a quality posts that is inspiring

Sexylizzy2813

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Quote from: GbitG on March 28, 2024, 03:29:27 PM

Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on March 27, 2024, 06:19:41 PM

I don't think holding the sMerit is a crime on the Forum and everyone has the right to do whatever they feel like to their sMerit just like everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Yeah, obviously holding sMerit is not a crime, and it's everyone's choice whether they want to send the merit or hold it. Because he earns it by himself. But for the sake of argument, I agree with you, but my opinion is that sMerit should not be held, it should be distributed to members. Because just as seniors gave you merit for applying for your post, you should also give merit to deserving people. Community work is done in such a way that all people perform the work together through a cooperative.

So it's meant to say that sMerit is everyone's own, whether one gives it or not but in my opinion, it is better to give sMerit. Because only through this can we grow the community, i.e., prepare new people to carry forward the legacy of Bitcoin.

I will say again, no criticism is meant, only the purpose is to explain.

I like how you made it look easy but indeed it's easy to comprehend. Some members don't see it that way, they only think that is theirs which is true but what's the point in keeping it for over a year? Are they keeping it to buy a bucket load of Bitcoin? No, and if you ask me I think some don't know how to distribute the sMerit to deserving post on the Forum.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on March 27, 2024, 06:19:41 PM

I don't think holding the sMerit is a crime on the Forum and everyone has the right to do whatever they feel like to their sMerit just like everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Yeah, obviously holding sMerit is not a crime, and it's everyone's choice whether they want to send the merit or hold it. Because he earns it by himself. But for the sake of argument, I agree with you, but my opinion is that sMerit should not be held, it should be distributed to members. Because just as seniors gave you merit for applying for your post, you should also give merit to deserving people. Community work is done in such a way that all people perform the work together through a cooperative.

So it's meant to say that sMerit is everyone's own, whether one gives it or not but in my opinion, it is better to give sMerit. Because only through this can we grow the community, i.e., prepare new people to carry forward the legacy of Bitcoin.

I will say again, no criticism is meant, only the purpose is to explain.

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Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on January 06, 2024, 09:51:58 PM

I've got to find out that there are some profiles that have received whole lots of merits but some of those profiles don't circulate their sendable merits to others profiles thereby allowing the sendable merits to decay and become worthless. The reason for sendable merits is for a user to send to other profiles in which they find their posts of good qualities and of Meritable standards but I wonder why some users choose to hoard this sendable merits and allowing it to vanish with time.
Is it a good habit to allow one's sendable merits to decay?

I don't think holding the sMerit is a crime on the Forum and everyone has the right to do whatever they feel like to their sMerit just like everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
To some they feel if they hold their sMerit for long that it will multiple to their main merit, this is something I expect from newbies but it seems even a high ranked member is guilty of this act and is not really a big deal. I also don't think the sMerit will decay if kept for long.

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Quote from: Gio vanna on January 06, 2024, 10:14:12 PM

At first didn't know smerit can decay, was force to research about it because of this threads and came across post related to this.
Unused smerits shouldn't be destroyed but sent to merit sources after 1 month.
Didn't know we where also hodl smerit Cheesy

because what the extent of you keeping it when you know it will end up disappearing (decay) when you should have just put it to use than to let it waste.
Good grief i found out sooner. Anytime I have smerit I will quickly make used of it by meriting post worth meriting than to let it decay.

It is either some or the forum users think holding S-merit is also as holding assets. Lol
Some are actually ignorant that S-merit even exist or if them have one. I can tell it that most of the forum users in this platform who displays professional here are not really what they posses.

I could actually remember a time I had some S-merits without my knowledge that I as a beginner who acquires merits can also Merit others posts but I was illiterate to the extend of saying.... I wished I had S-merit else I would had merited lot of posts interesting to me. Not til I get took a deep breath and studied how this merits works and then I was able to utilize my S-merits although I have never had anyone decayed.

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on January 16, 2024, 01:58:09 PM

Quote from: moneystery on January 14, 2024, 06:42:15 AM

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I wouldn’t label anyone as being selfish for not participating actively in the Merit System (taken to the extreme, Satoshi’s account would lead the rank). As I mentioned before, there are people that have earned a pretty penny in terms of Merits, and do not engage in handing their sMerits around. If they’ve made decent enough content, earned a bunch of Merits, derived half a bunch of sMerits, and decided not to play the meriting game, so be it.

Each user can decide whether they want to be involved as a merit contributor or not. The decision is not against the rules and personally I can't possibly force them to spend it. So far the OP probably needs to know that sMerit won't rot if not spent - it might even remain spendable after the user has been asleep for more than 2 years.

I don't remember if I ever reminded someone to spend sMerit instead of holding it - but it sure is nice to have them distribute it and increase circulation. There's no point holding sMerit - it won't make them any better.

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Quote from: moneystery on January 14, 2024, 06:42:15 AM

<…> i see that people like that are selfish people, where they prefer not to distribute their merit even though there are many quality posts on this forum that need to be appreciated with merit. <…>

I wouldn’t label anyone as being selfish for not participating actively in the Merit System (taken to the extreme, Satoshi’s account would lead the rank). As I mentioned before, there are people that have earned a pretty penny in terms of Merits, and do not engage in handing their sMerits around. If they’ve made decent enough content, earned a bunch of Merits, derived half a bunch of sMerits, and decided not to play the meriting game, so be it.

One can always choose to award a post with Merits or refrain from doing so, by taking into account whether the sMerit accounts here and there, though it’s not something that I take into account (I may have at some point, though it sounds like a distant memory).

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<…> or if they don't have time they can give their smerit back to the merit source to be redistributed to posts that need it. <…>

Quite a few Merit Sources don’t deplete their 30 day sMerit allowance, let alone chip-in into their personal sMerits (they’re two separate counters). For the most the above would, on the one hand, trickle back to the Merit Source only 50% of the unwanted sMerits that the account had to begin with, and on the other hand likely just add more personal sMerits (and Merits) to the Merit Source that won’t be used for quite some time (Merit Source sMerits are always used first, and only when the counter reaches 0 do the personal sMerits come into play).

HajiBagi

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In my opinion, you made this post to try to get people who don't give out their smerit to give it to others. You are also correct when you says that some people find it difficult to give others smerit; merit encourages users to put more effort into their posts and encourages serious discussion on the forum. However, giving merit is not something that is forced upon you; if you don't think a post is interesting or worthwhile, you should decide whether or not to give it.

Also, based on the thread observation, I believe you are attempting to convey to readers the idea that some users require the merits of those who possess smerit. This is my first encounter with this type of post (merit decay), so I'm not sure that people who have smerit let it wasted, because everyone one in this forum are trying to build each other by giving those who make a good post to make sure they keep it up and before you see the users who post a good post will begin to rank up.

acroman08

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Quote from: JustineCollins09 on January 16, 2024, 10:30:10 AM

are merits only transferable? can't people earn them?

Merit is what you earn and sMerit is what you send or "transfer". If you want to learn more about Merit and sMerit I suggest you read the threads I'll share below.

Merit & new rank requirements
FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit

also, I checked your post history, I suggest refraining from necro bumping threads if you are not going to add something significant to it.

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are merits only transferable? can't people earn them?

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on January 06, 2024, 10:07:58 PM

Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on January 06, 2024, 09:51:58 PM

Is it a good habit to allow one's sendable merits to decay?

Seems like anyone who does allows their sMerits to decay are not really an active member of this forum and I don`t see it as a good habit, I guess that is the reason Thymos set the decay merits system to show holding onto it is vanity

I think you guys got this sMerit decay idea all wrong. Earned sMerits never gets decayed. Nope, you could have it for as long as you exist on the forum. Accounts that got airdropped merits over the years have still got the earned sMerit from them if not sent voluntarily.
Only merit sources have there sMerit decay active and it works by some specific calculations put in place by Theymos.

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Op, you seriously need to calm down on your merit related posts yesterday you made one and today another one. This is just a friendly advice to avoid being ignored by others

Oh! I think I get the point of OP with this comment.
My advise for OP would be, instead of OP to be poke nosing and having a lot of concerns with how users chose to manage or distribute there sMerit, OP should do himself or herself the favour of looking more inward and improve on post quality, patterns to post arrangements and how to use special icons on the forum for better presentation. That would help the users growth more.

moneystery

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i understand what you mean, it's true that i also see it as something that is quite unfortunate, but we cannot force someone to be able to distribute the smerit they have because it is their right to be able to send it to anyone or not at all. but even though it is their right not to distribute their merit, i see that people like that are selfish people, where they prefer not to distribute their merit even though there are many quality posts on this forum that need to be appreciated with merit. or if they don't have time they can give their smerit back to the merit source to be redistributed to posts that need it.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on January 06, 2024, 10:07:58 PM

Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on January 06, 2024, 09:51:58 PM

Is it a good habit to allow one's sendable merits to decay?

Seems like anyone who does allows their sMerits to decay are not really an active member of this forum and I don`t see it as a good habit, I guess that is the reason Thymos set the decay merits system to show holding onto it is vanity
Op, you seriously need to calm down on your merit related posts yesterday you made one and today another one. This is just a friendly advice to avoid being ignored by others

that is to tell you that op is very interested in merit and the person that brought op to the forum maybe didn't tell op the important of merit and the implications of begging for merit, indirectly op is begging for a merit since what it does is to continously creating a numerous merit topics that concerns merit in order for people to give hm a sympathy merit, their is nobody that doesn't need merit and its being allocated to a user due to the post of the user, op should be working on how to make posts that has not made before in the forum I think that will give it a better chance of earning enough merit

Stable090

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Quote from: Aqua_Man on January 11, 2024, 04:04:22 AM

Additionally, sMerit are spendable merit. I know it's not a healthy practice to have sMerit and let it decay, but it's up to the owner whether to spend it or not.

Your account is still very new, you created it a few days ago, and you haven’t received any merit. I should have asked you maybe it decays or something happened to your smerit. How do you even know that smerit does decay? You should say it’s not healthy to have smerit and not to give it out, instead of you saying it’s not healthy to have smerit and let it decay, because I haven’t seen that smerit does decay. I don’t know how the OP knows that smerit does decay, and you are also following what the OP said.

Quote from: Aqua_Man on January 11, 2024, 04:04:22 AM

But there are many people in the forum whose posts are worthwhile and provide useful knowledge for others. So it will be an excellent routine to spend your sMerit rather than having it rot and become worthless.

If you claim you are holding your smerit just because you don’t see any posts that are worth it, then you are just deceiving yourself, because lots of people are taking their time to make contributions to the forum. So if you are not giving out smerit, you don’t just want to give it out, but I don’t think you will complain that you are not giving out your smerit due to a lack of quality posts on the forum.

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Quote from: FinePoine0 on January 06, 2024, 10:50:15 PM

Usually those who leave the accumulated Smerit and will not get any benefit. Because transferable merits have to be sent to other accounts it is a moral obligation. As I have been sending merits to others for a long time which will not be of any use to me, I have seen other people's quality and good posts and gifted them. Those who hold accumulated merit act like fools.

The remaining merits that are in our account to send to others are the remaining merits but will not be of any use to our account. Those merits are usually transferred to other members' accounts based on the quality of the posts of other members' accounts and how informative the posts are.

There are many members who want to transfer their excess merits to other members but they don't and they keep the remaining merits in their account. Only the specific user knows how much merit is left in his account so I think if another member posts well and if the post is informative then he can be given the remaining merit which will increase his motivation. If a junior member posts better than him according to his position and if he does not qualify even after posting well then he will be disappointed and will not have much interest to post in that forum later.

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