Topic: Merit & new rank requirements - page 158. (Read 167726 times)

Please go back to flaming others at usenet, we do things differently here, please note that this forum runs on SMF and not usenet, we nested quote as we like here and SMF handle it nicely, if your cheap second hand laptop cannot handle SMF and you read this from text based client please be considerate towards others who like to write their reply with nested quotes for easy readability here.

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I can compare this answer to which like a person send a merit to a wrong person. 

In merit system there says "Irreversible" so before you send a merit to a certain user you have to make sure that he or she is the person you wanted to give merit/merits. And I hope you won't do the same on merits just like this post above mine looks like! 

I suggest you re-read what the person is saying. Your answer to the question is irrelevant and there for you are spamming here. Your post is the typical copy-paste answer without reading ones post.

Every time you earn 1 Merit you also earn 0.5 sMerit [Sendable Merit] but the stats will not show 0.5 sMerit, its show the nearest full number amount [no decimal point], so you have to earn 2 Merit to have back 1 sMerit

Your analogy is worse.

Merit is an in-forum option that you gave to someone who deserves it. Dont ever compare an in-forum system to bitcoin transaction. Those two have different entity.

Merits are not reversible... when you go to send an smerit(s) to someone, there is a note below the sending of the smerit saying, "This cannot be undone!" which means that the sending of the smerit is not reversible, once you send the smerit, the merit is forever received by the recipient, and forever subtracted from your smerit bank... 

The warning seems pretty clear and unambiguous, and it even has the exclamation mark in it... which serves as a kind of emphasis, I suppose.

I really hope there's not. Merit system is pretty hard right now, and also you want to add an option to remove wrong merits?
If you send bitcoin to the wrong address is there any chance to get it back? Why should merit points be different?

Do we have a merit removal option if I was mistaken giving merit to someone?

I tried to search, but I couldn't find any removal button as of now. I hope that admin added this option so that if someone gives merit to the wrong person they can be able to remove the merit.

I think it encourages newer users to be more friendly and helpful towards new users and even if it's in order to gain merit then it's a worthwhile causen to increase the friendliness of the forums  in my opinion. Also after receiving 10 merit myself I can't really complain about the system anymore. Already given away my smerit though, don't like the idea of keeping hold of it personally.

My only criticism is that there are some members with a lot and receiving more, but don't give any merit out. It's not like it's costing them anything either to reward others A reduction in merit if you squat smerit would be my proposal, say after 3 months of not giving out or any or something. The idea of sitting on it is presumably in the hope of the "value" of it increasing due lack of supply, whereas supply should be regulated by those who distribute, not by those who are holding smerit for no benefit but themselves.


This is how you don't get merit.

need to merit for bounty

Obviously I know the merit system will improve the quality of post in the community and I believe in the future more people will start getting merit for quality post because by then a lot of established member will be award with merit source in different sections of the forum. So we all need to be patient and wait for the merit system to normalize. 

That feeling is really awesome. I have got two merits so far and I was really delighted to get them. I will always remember that moment and the post that got me those merits. It was the time when merit system was introduced and a  lot of people used to post doubts about the merit system. I first learned about the changes and then started to make replies to their queries. I knew that sooner or later a senior member will see it and reward me. These days I am not that much active but I plan to post more often in meta section.

Ok.  I will admit that I provided a bit of a facetious answer to your inquiring post because I had thought that there would be a bit of common sense in theymos's description of "somewhat established member"..

Of course, the description is not precise, and therefore, it leaves theymos with a decent amount of discretion to determine when he were to come to the belief that a member is sufficiently "established" to meet his expectations.

Just think about the membership situation for a moment.  There are nearly 2 million accounts registered with the forum, and many accounts have been active for several years, but even if only 10% of the accounts are active, that still makes 200k active members from which theymos can choose sources, and there are a lot of members with a lot of experiences and participation in different sections on the forum.

So, a threshold question might be how the hell is theymos going to get to know you or to trust your judgement in any kind of way as a jr member, it is going to be through your posts and also with the passage of some time.  

So, likely several hundred posts through a year would be a kind of minimum threshold, and since this new merit system has been established, probably theymos would want you to have received a decent number of merits, too... maybe nearly 100 as a minimum in order to rise to the level of "established".. so to me it had seemed like a bit of a silly question to be asking whether a Jr member would be considered by theymos to be "somewhat established" or to otherwise meet criteria to be designated as a merit source.  


Your response here, sunriseme, also, might be another example why you might not be designated as a merit source at any time in the near future.  Sure, you might feel good and funny to tell off another member, such as solovev, yet in the end, your response does not reflect very well your ability to deal with adversity and criticism.  You can work on those kinds of skills and attempt to make better posts that are not so seemingly gratuitously snarky towards other members.  Sometimes, there is a role for snarky, but usually it is best to play that card somewhat sparingly for better effect and also so it does not reflect negatively on you.

I got already sufficient answears from well established members, please take the time to read above before posting more.
All replies helped me, no more needed, use your energy at another part of the forum. Thx

thanks for pointing that out, will pay more attention

My question was serious
I couldn't interpret what 'somewhat established member' means

No you cannot become a merit source because:

1) You do not have the time to even read the official thread properly before commenting. I mean it is clearly mentioned that you need to be  "somewhat established" member here to be considered as the merit source. If you do not care about reading the official posts, why will you read the posts of other members to give them merits.

2) Another problem is that you have posted 69 posts here and have not got a single merit so far. This means that you are not able to make a quality post yourself. So how will you judge other members making such posts ? 

I seriously see such posts all around and feel like I won't be able to climb at all. Then I just wonder what posts will earn me some merits

Wait, you mean this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31588679 isn't worth at least 10 merit points?!? I have no hope of ever climbing higher in rank, then!!!