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newbie
Activity: 112
Merit: 0
March 02, 2018, 04:26:23 AM
In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Useful infographics

Forum users have helpfully created some infographics to explain the merit system:
paxmao's infographic
ibminer's infographic
8Habits's infographic
JetSet11's infographic
zentdex's infographic
alia_armelle's infographic

If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

There are stats here, and you can find someone's merit summary by clicking the "merit" link on their profile.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 12
March 02, 2018, 04:24:47 AM
how someone can send merit points?

To send merit points, you will first have to earn some. For instance, if you get two merit points for a post, you will get 1 smerit. You can then send this sMerit to another user for his quality contribution. To send the merit point, you have to click on +merit option which is visible on top of every post. It will take you to another page where you will be asked to enter the number of merits that you want to give this post. Once you enter the number of merits and click submit, merits will be send to that post.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 13
March 02, 2018, 03:32:10 AM
Hi, just checking out how will we contact or ask you to review our history for us to be a source of merit? Thanks a lot.

You cannot become  a merit source. This is a position that comes with a lot of responsibility and thus you need to be an established member here to apply for this. Admin has not defined any fixed criteria for being this established member but I think he meant that the profile should be at least an year old and should have made some quality contribution here. You can work on both aspects and apply later. To apply, for this a member has to quote 10 posts from the forum (of other members)  that he thinks have not got sufficient merits.
member
Activity: 116
Merit: 17
March 02, 2018, 01:55:16 AM
Hi, just checking out how will we contact or ask you to review our history for us to be a source of merit? Thanks a lot.
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If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.


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how someone can send merit points?

As soon as you have some sMerits you will see a "+Merit" button on each post (next to the quote-button)
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
March 02, 2018, 01:36:44 AM
how someone can send merit points?
jr. member
Activity: 33
Merit: 1
March 02, 2018, 01:25:51 AM
Hi, just checking out how will we contact or ask you to review our history for us to be a source of merit? Thanks a lot.
newbie
Activity: 112
Merit: 0
March 01, 2018, 09:48:17 PM
I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit

Here is what you should do:

1) Stop making so many posts as it is not giving any result at all. You should spend that time analyzing your mistakes. Go through your posts and see if they contain detailed information and are easy to understand. You can ask your friends here (if you have) to go through your posts and give you some suggestions.

2) Make good use of merit stats page. You can find different posts getting good number of merit points there. Try to find common pattern among all those posts and implement it in your future posts.

Hope you will become an example for others.
Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 3178
Merit: 1140
#SWGT CERTIK Audited
March 01, 2018, 07:33:14 PM
I created a post in the service section that maybe most of you didn't see it. The concept is simple: read the rules and create an art that could help others (newbies especially) and in return for your contribution, you get sMerit.
The topic (arts) contains also basic and helpful information written mostly in a simple manner and easy to read and understand.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/learn-from-arts-old-topic-name-was-smerit-for-art-2957836, welcome. (free ad theymos for a free work Grin)

member
Activity: 184
Merit: 11
March 01, 2018, 05:58:29 PM
In my native language, a rich choice of words, I would pick up for you a few ,

Well, when you are able to communicate those words in English and not Genglish come on back as I would love to hear them!  Roll Eyes

I lost interest in you. Undecided
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1756
Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
March 01, 2018, 05:49:43 PM
In my native language, a rich choice of words, I would pick up for you a few ,

Well, when you are able to communicate those words in English and not Genglish come on back as I would love to hear them!  Roll Eyes
member
Activity: 184
Merit: 11
March 01, 2018, 05:41:35 PM
transferred under the contract, but not by beautiful mail .
DA FUQ are you trying to say?  Posts like this are the ones that I normally skip right over and which usually lead me to put the author on ignore.  Your post, which I'm sure you're unaware of, requires mental gymnastics to decipher--and there's too many posts to read here and too little time in the day.   I'm not going to waste a nanosecond on such a post. 

You might have a grand idea in your head, but what came out on the screen is a scrambled eggs mess of words that don't quite make sense. 

This post is just one of thousands I've read.  These users think they're brilliant writers, that's the punchline here.  And I'll keep showing up to remind them that they're not.  You don't need to make longer posts.  What you need to do is learn at least the importance of spelling, grammar, and punctuation.   Once you have that epiphany, learn how to use those basic language skills to write something decent.  Expanding your vocabulary wouldn't be bad either.

Yes, I poorly know English , I Russian , would be able to tell about the situation in his native , beautiful language, it would be equal . Can you me going to answer on Russian language ?

Sure lets go I can use google translate too.  You wont understand anything I write but hey who fucking cares. I bet you don't see the irony in this do you??

BTCT is an English language forum, what about this is wrong or difficult to understand?

Genglish (Google Translated English) is not a language, at least not one that can really be used for clear concise communication.
In my native language, a rich choice of words, I would pick up for you a few ,
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1756
Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
March 01, 2018, 05:38:06 PM
transferred under the contract, but not by beautiful mail .
DA FUQ are you trying to say?  Posts like this are the ones that I normally skip right over and which usually lead me to put the author on ignore.  Your post, which I'm sure you're unaware of, requires mental gymnastics to decipher--and there's too many posts to read here and too little time in the day.   I'm not going to waste a nanosecond on such a post. 

You might have a grand idea in your head, but what came out on the screen is a scrambled eggs mess of words that don't quite make sense. 

This post is just one of thousands I've read.  These users think they're brilliant writers, that's the punchline here.  And I'll keep showing up to remind them that they're not.  You don't need to make longer posts.  What you need to do is learn at least the importance of spelling, grammar, and punctuation.   Once you have that epiphany, learn how to use those basic language skills to write something decent.  Expanding your vocabulary wouldn't be bad either.

Yes, I poorly know English , I Russian , would be able to tell about the situation in his native , beautiful language, it would be equal . Can you me going to answer on Russian language ?

Sure lets go I can use google translate too.  You wont understand anything I write but hey who fucking cares. I bet you don't see the irony in this do you??

BTCT is an English language forum, what about this is wrong or difficult to understand?

Genglish (Google Translated English) is not a language, at least not one that can really be used for clear concise communication.
member
Activity: 184
Merit: 11
March 01, 2018, 05:21:54 PM
transferred under the contract, but not by beautiful mail .
DA FUQ are you trying to say?  Posts like this are the ones that I normally skip right over and which usually lead me to put the author on ignore.  Your post, which I'm sure you're unaware of, requires mental gymnastics to decipher--and there's too many posts to read here and too little time in the day.   I'm not going to waste a nanosecond on such a post. 

You might have a grand idea in your head, but what came out on the screen is a scrambled eggs mess of words that don't quite make sense. 

This post is just one of thousands I've read.  These users think they're brilliant writers, that's the punchline here.  And I'll keep showing up to remind them that they're not.  You don't need to make longer posts.  What you need to do is learn at least the importance of spelling, grammar, and punctuation.   Once you have that epiphany, learn how to use those basic language skills to write something decent.  Expanding your vocabulary wouldn't be bad either.

Yes, I poorly know English , I Russian , would be able to tell about the situation in his native , beautiful language, it would be equal . Can you me going to answer on Russian language ?
member
Activity: 161
Merit: 38
(Thank you for all the merit =) ) ~Lovecove!
March 01, 2018, 05:08:26 PM
Is this allowed, ask people to review my posts and I will review them posts?
I have some sMerits for how long i can keep them without spending?

I would like to know if this is allowed, too. Smiley I don't have a chance to be a regular on the boards because I travel a lot for work. Some weeks I have a lot of downtime, and then I can be gone for two, three weeks. That being said, I've always tried (even before the merit system was in place) to make positive contributions to posts, at least to the extent that I can as a non-tech-savvy-'newbie'  Roll Eyes. I really don't know what more I can do to contribute and make answers worthy of merit, if I know little to none about mining or coding. All I can do is pass on the knowledge I've gained on this board, or to share my analysis of recent news and developments, to the best of my ability.

Some have broached the topic of why merit matters so much, and it's a great question. I know ranking matters for the ones who are pursuing signature campaigns, but that's not a goal of mine... not enough time at the moment! That being said, I think the idea of ranking up matters to all of us because.. let's face it. If you're in crypto, you've got a bit of a competitive streak. You're a risk taker. And people who fit that profile need to see some sort of gain or at least a sense of moving upwards or forwards in order to stay motivated to continue. Its true of any game you might play - if you don't see yourself moving up the levels, you lose steam. Even though it shouldn't matter, it does bug me when I make an effort to post something that took some thought, or some research, or the application of some knowledge, and it just gets lost in the chatter.

I'd love to be able to ask those in the 'know' if they can review my posts so I can at least know what I'm doing right, what I'm doing wrong, and how to do better!

Well I can review this post.

If I was a merit source, I would not award this post merit because it doesn't have enough value.

I know you put some time into the post, and it is long and well-written, but it's basically your personal experience without any valuable insight.

I boiled it down to:
1. I was here long, now not enough time to post, but I still want to rank up. <-- sort of alluding indirectly to the notion that people get more merit for posting more frequently rather than posting a few good posts.
2. I don't know how to code/mine as much as the others, so not sure how to contribute. <-- k?
3. Despite my lack of knowledge, I want to rank up because apparently everyone in crypto is an overachiever rather than otakus looking for quick gains. <-- I'm not going to make over generalizations about crypto people, and this has nothing to do with my analysis of your post, but I feel like I've met enough people in crypto discord groups who don't even know how a blockchain works but have a portfolio of over 5 altcoins Cheesy.
4. I want to know if it's allowed if members can review each other's posts. <-- In PMs you can do that. If you want to start or reply to threads to review each other's posts... I'm not sure if you see that it's mostly spam. Or post count inflation. Or both. If you can do it in PM, then do it in PM with another member who is your friend or something.

Here are a few tips on getting merits:

1. Add something to the thread that's new and that no one knows about or few people know about. Like if there's a thread in bitcoin discussion about whether or not bitcoin will continue to grow (LOL the most generic question), then don't give a generic answer. Provide some valuable insight, like a new development. For example, Warren Buffet just tweeted that he's going to get into crypto and he's also placing incentives in his companies for people to incorporate crypto (didn't happen btw). Something like that. Add spice to a thread.

2. Technical / newbie help. If someone has a problem, solve it. If you don't know the answer, and you're desperate for merits. Spend an hour googling and write up some kind of solution using the words "I THINK THIS WILL WORK" and provide a full disclaimer that you used Google, but to the best of your judgment, it's gucci.

3. Start an intellectual thread on bitcoin/altcoin forecast. There are updates to bitcoin core and other alts. Provide some key insights to how those would impact the coin and the economy + mainstream. If you think hard enough and it sounds really good, people will merit you.

4. Navigate to the routine merit giveaways. I've seen them, you've seen them. Members are offering sMerits and merits to people for participating in their contests/giveaways. Some of them only require that you post 10 things (long things btw) and that you link those posts in their giveaway threads.

5. Be a scam shark. Hawk a member who you think is planning to scam someone, write up a detailed analysis on why. If you're right, you'll be hailed a hero.

6. Write up an anlysis on which current new altcoins you think are going to do go 10x. Obviously this has to be more than a shill post. It has to be a thoughtful, detailed analysis about the team, roadmap, progress, etc. such that people will realize you're not shilling, but are giving an analysis.

7. Make new threads about fun things related to crypto. Can't be spam. Something like, "Did you guys know Ashton Kutcher has his own crypto wallet company?" Or you know, fun quiz facts that you've collected (and are related) that you can mingle together into a really cohesive, well-articulated OP.

Hope this helps Smiley.

I'm still 4 weeks away from worrying about merits or sMerits. And so I'm not exactly merit-hungry yet Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 7005
Top Crypto Casino
March 01, 2018, 05:08:18 PM
transferred under the contract, but not by beautiful mail .
DA FUQ are you trying to say?  Posts like this are the ones that I normally skip right over and which usually lead me to put the author on ignore.  Your post, which I'm sure you're unaware of, requires mental gymnastics to decipher--and there's too many posts to read here and too little time in the day.   I'm not going to waste a nanosecond on such a post. 

You might have a grand idea in your head, but what came out on the screen is a scrambled eggs mess of words that don't quite make sense. 

This post is just one of thousands I've read.  These users think they're brilliant writers, that's the punchline here.  And I'll keep showing up to remind them that they're not.  You don't need to make longer posts.  What you need to do is learn at least the importance of spelling, grammar, and punctuation.   Once you have that epiphany, learn how to use those basic language skills to write something decent.  Expanding your vocabulary wouldn't be bad either.
member
Activity: 184
Merit: 11
March 01, 2018, 04:55:41 PM
I think it's unfair, we have to take all the Merits and earn them again.All once were freshmen, I am not sure that from the first days the simple worker suddenly became the chronicler ,all learned from the mistakes, but these people safely received the ratings . What do we see now ? Merits are acquired or transferred under the contract, but not by beautiful mail . This is a place where people communicate with each other , someone says sloppy, who is beautiful and who does not know English well, we are all different, but we have a common interest in this cryptocurrency .
member
Activity: 293
Merit: 12
March 01, 2018, 03:53:01 PM
Is this allowed, ask people to review my posts and I will review them posts?
I have some sMerits for how long i can keep them without spending?

I would like to know if this is allowed, too. Smiley I don't have a chance to be a regular on the boards because I travel a lot for work. Some weeks I have a lot of downtime, and then I can be gone for two, three weeks. That being said, I've always tried (even before the merit system was in place) to make positive contributions to posts, at least to the extent that I can as a non-tech-savvy-'newbie'  Roll Eyes. I really don't know what more I can do to contribute and make answers worthy of merit, if I know little to none about mining or coding. All I can do is pass on the knowledge I've gained on this board, or to share my analysis of recent news and developments, to the best of my ability.

Some have broached the topic of why merit matters so much, and it's a great question. I know ranking matters for the ones who are pursuing signature campaigns, but that's not a goal of mine... not enough time at the moment! That being said, I think the idea of ranking up matters to all of us because.. let's face it. If you're in crypto, you've got a bit of a competitive streak. You're a risk taker. And people who fit that profile need to see some sort of gain or at least a sense of moving upwards or forwards in order to stay motivated to continue. Its true of any game you might play - if you don't see yourself moving up the levels, you lose steam. Even though it shouldn't matter, it does bug me when I make an effort to post something that took some thought, or some research, or the application of some knowledge, and it just gets lost in the chatter.

I'd love to be able to ask those in the 'know' if they can review my posts so I can at least know what I'm doing right, what I'm doing wrong, and how to do better!
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 1
March 01, 2018, 03:25:25 PM
I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit

Here is what you should do:

1) Stop making so many posts as it is not giving any result at all. You should spend that time analyzing your mistakes. Go through your posts and see if they contain detailed information and are easy to understand. You can ask your friends here (if you have) to go through your posts and give you some suggestions.

2) Make good use of merit stats page. You can find different posts getting good number of merit points there. Try to find common pattern among all those posts and implement it in your future posts.

Hope you will become an example for others.
jr. member
Activity: 40
Merit: 3
March 01, 2018, 02:20:52 PM
I want to more merdit

You have made only six posts so far and just have  a look at what you have posted so far:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hbccpyo-1318019

You started with pots in alt coins bounties section and also made a  post with single word "good". I am really doubtful if someone here has enough merit to reward you for such posting history.
full member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 108
March 01, 2018, 02:02:38 PM
Is this allowed, ask people to review my posts and I will review them posts?
I have some sMerits for how long i can keep them without spending?

Currently, there is no such things like merits expiring after certain time. But it is mentioned in merits page that the admin may introduce future is hording of merits is being practiced. Regarding asking users to submit their posts for review, you can do that. A lot of members here  have already done that (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29032781). This is a good option for a member who does not have the time to search for quality posts in different sections.
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