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Topic: Merit & new rank requirements - page 163. (Read 167726 times)

full member
Activity: 252
Merit: 100
March 03, 2018, 04:30:00 AM

merit, can help this forum more secure. who wants to do a personal interest, or some similar account
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
March 03, 2018, 04:20:52 AM
merit maybe important for some bur im ok if i stay the same rank. all im asking is the customization of my profile like signature, photo and all, it takes time to get them upgraded  lol.
member
Activity: 190
Merit: 10
March 03, 2018, 01:58:42 AM
agree that this is an improment, but there are too much new member sign up everyday.
and nobody can have enough merit to give them for up rank.
so they stay in newbie/jr.member forever =.= (just like me)
even I think I got some informative posts.
I called that unfair
blockchain is a technology that decentralize the power,
this kind of rules made power centralize again.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 4085
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
March 03, 2018, 12:08:30 AM
Just for fun  Grin , and I hope that everyone will like it  Cheesy.

I don't see there are demands for such a funny infographics, Theymos has announced about merit system and its rules, its mechanism, its desrired effects on forum users. If users who are really care about the forum issues and would like to contribute to the forum at the first place; they will spend several minutes (10 or 30 minutes or even more) to read the ANN very carefully. With them, they actually don't need such a funny infographics; simply they don't need them because they can understand the terms, rules by themselves via spending their time to read. I am sure that it is not certainly that infographics' creators put correct information or explanations or expressions in their arts. If they put wrong contents, express original ideas of merit system wrongly, those arts would lead to terrible misunderstandings on their readers.

On the other hand, with users who are totally don't care about the forum issues, they need infographics for sure. Why is that? It is mainly because two factors. The first one is, they lack of proficiency in English (most of them are spammers, scammers, shitty-posters); they even can not read and understand topics/ posts correctly; they can not write a complete sentence with appropriate vocabularies and correct grammar. With those ones, infographics are utmost things. Secondly, merit system launched to give motivations for forum users to be more constructive over time with ultimate target is go enhance the overal quality of forum posts. I don't think that we (good users) should help those ones to rank up; they should do this by themselves. Most of them will continue to spam the forum after ranking up to at least Member in the forum.

Lastly, infographics (most of them) are too large (oversized) and make readers uncomfortable to read. As Theymos stated some weeks ago, images are unpleasant problems in the forum recently due to massive abusements from lower users.
Due to abuse, newbie-posted embedded images are now disabled on these pages:
- Topic display
- Recent posts / patrol
- Previews
They're not currently hidden in PMs or on some other pages (like a user's "show posts" page), though I might change that later if it seems necessary.

Disabled images get transformed into links automatically. When the poster becomes a Jr member, the images that he tried to post previously will automatically be re-enabled (though there might be a few minutes of delay).

This extends to all past posts as well as future ones.
Infographics might lead to new endemic (simply call it as infographics-endemic) in our forum (of course, at higher level).
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 21
March 02, 2018, 10:45:44 PM
I think we are going too far on the English and Genglish pun and the requisite for a "good English" for posting. I am not a native English speaker and surely make plenty of mistakes, but I think is best to focus on content rather than on the shape. I will merit posts that I can understand and are well thought even if the writing is just average. I am not looking for grammar lessons here, just for crypto fun, learn and perhaps investing better.

I mean, in the future because I don't think I am getting merit for the moment  Grin

I haven't seen anyone saying English must be the posters native language and that every post must be grammatically perfect.  There is a big difference between someone clearly using Google Translate vs someone with the ability to write something understandable... I can't learn something from a post I can not understand. I can't discuss a post/points when the language barrier prevents it.
Even if there's a barrier in language or even in dialect in one country/world, it doesn't mean that you can dominate others and allow to speak unnecessary (offensive) words to that person.
This Flying Hellfish is acting a good boy( baby boy ) right now, OMG. How lucky you start to register in bitcointalk.org in early year, I just imagine if the demerit is active right now. You can get a lot award, and I will congratulate you for sure.
copper member
Activity: 168
Merit: 34
March 02, 2018, 01:29:48 PM
In my native language, a rich choice of words, I would pick up for you a few ,

Well, when you are able to communicate those words in English and not Genglish come on back as I would love to hear them!  Roll Eyes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymtTUPqSFcM
English, Motherfu*** do you speak it? In 5 Languages Grin Grin
jr. member
Activity: 155
Merit: 1
March 02, 2018, 11:40:39 AM
new system hard to follow for other maybe not all good in english or making a good post how can you identified if your post is good quality ? what topic is more interesting to have a merit. newbie
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1756
Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
March 02, 2018, 10:53:41 AM
I think we are going too far on the English and Genglish pun and the requisite for a "good English" for posting. I am not a native English speaker and surely make plenty of mistakes, but I think is best to focus on content rather than on the shape. I will merit posts that I can understand and are well thought even if the writing is just average. I am not looking for grammar lessons here, just for crypto fun, learn and perhaps investing better.

I mean, in the future because I don't think I am getting merit for the moment  Grin

I haven't seen anyone saying English must be the posters native language and that every post must be grammatically perfect.  There is a big difference between someone clearly using Google Translate vs someone with the ability to write something understandable... I can't learn something from a post I can not understand. I can't discuss a post/points when the language barrier prevents it.
hero member
Activity: 2576
Merit: 883
Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2
March 02, 2018, 10:00:43 AM
For those users who send merit to their own post. Ther are punishments when you send merit in your own post?  .
You can not give some merit to your own post because you do not know how wonderful it for the eyes of others. Let them to decide or examine our posts because they have better understanding to know which the impressive to our posts.

Hopefully in the next merit system update, remove this sign "+ merit" on the side of our own post. Because once you cheat, you are always a cheater.

You can't merit your own post you just get an error if you try. That was a bug fixed on the first day of implementation.
full member
Activity: 266
Merit: 102
March 02, 2018, 09:56:09 AM
For those users who send merit to their own post. Ther are punishments when you send merit in your own post?  .
You can not give some merit to your own post because you do not know how wonderful it for the eyes of others. Let them to decide or examine our posts because they have better understanding to know which the impressive to our posts.

Hopefully in the next merit system update, remove this sign "+ merit" on the side of our own post. Because once you cheat, you are always a cheater.
copper member
Activity: 168
Merit: 34
March 02, 2018, 09:46:32 AM
This is a new gang on the district  Grin Grin Grin

legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1065
✋(▀Ĺ̯ ▀-͠ )
March 02, 2018, 09:35:43 AM
Does anyone know how the new system is currently running?
Make good and useful posts even in your native language and get the reward.

How much better quality posts? How much less spam?
Better quality posts : yes
Less spam : +/- it depends from the rank requirements of every member

Are the merits are given to the right people?
Mostly yes but unfortunately not all the time, meanwhile those abusing the system are & will be tagged soon or later

I think we are going too far on the English and Genglish pun and the requisite for a "good English" for posting.
-snip-
For most of users here, English isn't considered as the first language but at least, everyone can understand what they are trying to say. In some cases, you find a puzzle of random words...in this case, better to stick to your language topic/section.
That's my opinion, and everyone is free to do what he wants here and he should accept it since it doesn't break any rules..
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 12
March 02, 2018, 09:23:00 AM
Does anyone know how the new system is currently running? How much better quality posts? How much less spam? Are the merits are given to the right people?
member
Activity: 249
Merit: 13
dApps Development Automation Platform
March 02, 2018, 09:16:09 AM
I think we are going too far on the English and Genglish pun and the requisite for a "good English" for posting. I am not a native English speaker and surely make plenty of mistakes, but I think is best to focus on content rather than on the shape. I will merit posts that I can understand and are well thought even if the writing is just average. I am not looking for grammar lessons here, just for crypto fun, learn and perhaps investing better.

I mean, in the future because I don't think I am getting merit for the moment  Grin
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 21
March 02, 2018, 08:13:33 AM
In my native language, a rich choice of words, I would pick up for you a few ,

Well, when you are able to communicate those words in English and not Genglish come on back as I would love to hear them!  Roll Eyes

I lost interest in you. Undecided
Don't mind them, they used unnecessary word , like DA FUQ (from The Pharmacist) and You wont understand anything I write but hey who fucking cares. (from Flying Hellfish),  too arrogant, one who rudely acts as though he is better than other people. Yes, maybe in english word but not in other ability or talent.


It's alright Bitalex56, as long as you tried to become good in english, I put my respect on you. Just be humble and keep going what you want to be.
jr. member
Activity: 84
Merit: 3
March 02, 2018, 06:48:34 AM
I didn't write here in the last weeks, and I was just curious how the situation evolved.
Well, some ideas:

1) it seems that most of the people are more interested to earn cheap money from bounties that to learn to trade

There is nothing wrong with this as long as that member is following the rules here and his activity is not affecting the forum quality. But if someone starts making useless posts to reach desired activity or to complete the number of posts required to be be eligible for bounty, this is an issue. I see that you are using the signature of a bounty yourself and thus this advice does not suit from you. If it was given by a member who is not using a signature, it would have more impact.
sr. member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 300
March 02, 2018, 05:22:13 AM
The problem in this merit system is the merit count that you can send to others is very limited ( specially when you have a low rank account when the time merit system invented ).

So you want a sMerit that is not limited? That might be a problem if that happens. I think the merit system is not that limited since you can have 1 sMerit for every 2 merits you receive.

What if Sir theymos update this kind of merit system, atleast adding 1 merit everyday (sendable merit).

That will be a lot of merit and it will be obviously abused by the members who has a lot of accounts, don't you think?

Like my rank, I sent my merit to someone worth it, that's why I don't have smerit even I see a quality post while browsing here in bitcointalk.org.

Well, you give your merit to a one member. I do not know if that is worth it or intentional since there is a lot of thread here that is more worthy than that 2 posts.

Hoping that this message can caught the attention of the Admin theymos.

I think so, but I think it will just be ignored .
member
Activity: 273
Merit: 11
March 02, 2018, 05:17:29 AM
I didn't write here in the last weeks, and I was just curious how the situation evolved.
Well, some ideas:

1) it seems that most of the people are more interested to earn cheap money from bounties that to learn to trade

2) a lot of people are more interested in discussion about merits than about crypto

3) to receive merit is much more about luck than quality: I mean, to receive a merit you need

     a) to write a decent post
     b) to hope that people READ your post
     c) to hope that they LIKE it
     d) to hope that they HAVE merits to give

there is too hope on the table; I'm a deterministic person, I like cause/effect stuff, so sincerely I lost interest in all this stuff about merit.
May be this was the primal intention, to force people to give up.

Oh, well, I'll try to survive without merits... Smiley
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 21
March 02, 2018, 05:11:40 AM
The problem in this merit system is the merit count that you can send to others is very limited ( specially when you have a low rank account when the time merit system invented ). What if Sir theymos update this kind of merit system, atleast adding 1 merit everyday (sendable merit). Like my rank, I sent my merit to someone worth it, that's why I don't have smerit even I see a quality post while browsing here in bitcointalk.org.

Hoping that this message can caught the attention of the Admin theymos.

What do you think?
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 4085
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
March 02, 2018, 05:02:25 AM
I created a post in the service section that maybe most of you didn't see it. The concept is simple: read the rules and create an art that could help others (newbies especially) and in return for your contribution, you get sMerit.
The topic (arts) contains also basic and helpful information written mostly in a simple manner and easy to read and understand.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/learn-from-arts-old-topic-name-was-smerit-for-art-2957836, welcome. (free ad theymos for a free work Grin)



Hello Sir,

Do you have signature code for Junior member or member rank. I would like to wear you signature because I strongly support merit system. I don't want to see spammers abundant in the forum and continue to move up to higher positions. They usually covered the forum with shitty posts especially in altcoins boards.

By the way, I highly concerned about side-effects of your art campaign. The reason is it looks likely easier for merit beggers to get them from making inforgraphics, videos, etc. I don't deny their efforts, their time they put on those ones; they deserved to get sMerits. However the potential side-effects can occur is the forum will be abundant with infographics (part of them are oversized, make threads harder to read, etc.).
As we can see Theymos limited ability to post images to Full Members and higher due to this unpleasant effects.
I can not find the link to his announcement before disabling images for Junior members (I will update it later when I get it by chance).
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