Merit & new rank requirements - page 99.

dungp3132

member

Activity: 274

Merit: 26

Quote from: shahzadafzal on June 23, 2018, 11:17:34 PM

This sheet is showing when the next activity will be calculated for example
Last activity was calculated on 19 Jun 2018
Next activity will be calculated on 3 Jul 2018

Does it mean all forum members will be counted their activities at the same point of time as the attached image shown.
And the checkpoint will not depend upon their register timepoint.
Do I get your ideas right?

shahzadafzal

copper member

Activity: 1526

Merit: 2890

Quote from: coloseum on June 23, 2018, 09:09:48 PM

hi Invoking,
Thank you for link to doc file, but I don't understand what it means.
I am curious and would like to know more about it.
Could you give me more links or explanations for me to find out more about it, please.

This sheet is showing when the next activity will be calculated for example
Last activity was calculated on 19 Jun 2018
Next activity will be calculated on 3 Jul 2018

coloseum

member

Activity: 219

Merit: 10

Quote from: InvoKing on June 22, 2018, 01:07:35 PM

Hello ! Nope, activity periods are fixed and weren't calculated from the time you joined the forums
You can find when your activity will increase here (periods intervals) : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/htmlview?pli=1

hi Invoking,
Thank you for link to doc file, but I don't understand what it means.
I am curious and would like to know more about it.
Could you give me more links or explanations for me to find out more about it, please.

sncc

hero member

Activity: 536

Merit: 513

Quote from: ?? on ??

Thanks
i couldt Turkish do you have?

The link to the Turkish local forum is as follows. In the main board posts should be written in English.

Türkçe (Turkish)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=133.0

tranthidung

legendary

Activity: 2310

Merit: 4085

Farewell o_e_l_e_o

Quote from: R-J-F on June 22, 2018, 11:48:31 PM

My problem with the current merit system is simple: I was a Hero member, my account was hacked and I had to start all over again since I could not get any help with recovering my account.

'Start over again', what does it mean?
Can you explain a bit more about your case?
After the hack, your account's postcounts dropped and you had to collect activities again, or you actually lost the Hero-ranked account forever and had to start from zero with a Newbie account/
Which one is your case?

R-J-F

sr. member

Activity: 1078

Merit: 310

AKA RJF - Member since '13

Quote from: d5000 on June 22, 2018, 03:44:15 AM

Quote from: joulion86 on June 21, 2018, 08:26:21 AM

I actually would like an even stricter Merit system: a system were you need to continuously earn merits to be and stay a certain rank. A system where you are never done earning, because only your last 3-6 months are counted. This would remove a lot of paid spam.

In the past I supported similar ideas, but now I am against them again - the problem is that you always punish honest people with such a system, mostly members who wear signatures which are un-paid, and visit this forum not so frequently. Like most of the Core developers, for example ...

The goal of "decaying merits" is obviously to rank-down accounts which achieved a high rank automatically by spamming (via Activity) before the merit system was introduced. That goal can be achieved also by other, less drastic means. As people told me, what is currently being done is that the worst spammers/farmers are (slowly) being banned. So in a couple of months we can expect that only few "farmed Legendaries/Heroes" will be left.

I am currently beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel - the usually megathread-dominated "Bitcoin Discussion" subforum seemed, today, a bit more interesting that it used to be in the last months. At least a handful of serious threads at the first page. Maybe it's beginning to work

My problem with the current merit system is simple: I was a Hero member, my account was hacked and I had to start all over again since I could not get any help with recovering my account. A week or so away from becoming Hero again and they kick in the Merit system and now I'll most likely never get back to Hero. Just my 2 cents...

SuiMikira

member

Activity: 364

Merit: 10

Quote from: ?? on ??

Thanks
i couldt Turkish do you have?

You are typical shitposter. If you can't try to post good things then just read.

InvoKing

legendary

Activity: 2142

Merit: 1065

✋(▀Ĺ̯ ▀-͠ )

Quote from: cryptoherr on June 22, 2018, 11:34:34 AM

hey why do i not get added any activity Posts (you can see my last Posts were 14 days ago) so i should be able to get new activity every 14 days Right ?

Hello ! Nope, activity periods are fixed and weren't calculated from the time you joined the forums
You can find when your activity will increase here (periods intervals) : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/htmlview?pli=1

cryptoherr

member

Activity: 114

Merit: 10

Empowering crypto w/ sustainable energy

hey why do i not get added any activity Posts (you can see my last Posts were 14 days ago) so i should be able to get new activity every 14 days Right ?

d5000

legendary

Activity: 3906

Merit: 6249

Decentralization Maximalist

Quote from: poutintsev on June 22, 2018, 04:13:55 AM

I read those whole post. I'm pretty sure if I or someone like me applied to become Merit source he would not accept me.

Like TheQuin already wrote, it's likely that in the present, you would not be accepted as you seem to lack experience. What I meant is that it is generally open to everybody - the path towards achieving the rank of a merit source being simple: contribute to the forum, read & educate yourself about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, and then after a year or so you can apply. You already have some activity, so for you it may not be too far away (I haven't checked your post history, however).

All forums and online communities have to do some "selection" for positions that require a bit of trust. And merit sources require trust as they could abuse their power (e.g. sell merits, or merit only topics from friends etc.).

And if you see merit sources abusing their "power", then you can detect it and start a thread about that. All information about merit transfers (at least of the last months) is public.

TianaStam

member

Activity: 218

Merit: 12

Quote from: Sova_tmb on June 22, 2018, 01:54:51 AM

Quote from: aksen on June 21, 2018, 10:46:13 PM

Quote from: Sova_tmb on June 21, 2018, 04:41:09 PM

Hello guys, to my opinion merit fair system , just the problem because people don't receive merit in the next:

1) Poor english.

2) Very lazy and don't read useful information and share with another users.

Thank you for reading

Here is my opinion about these two:

1) I agree that this happens but I am strictly against this. This forum has members from all over the world and thus the English of some members will be bad in comparison to native speakers. Still, if his content has information and value, we should appreciate it.

2) Lazy is also good sometimes as they will find some easy ways to get merits (not merit abuse).

But in local board less people. English is a international language and main for many people.

There are a lot of people in local boards and Merit doesn't belong only to main (English) boards, people activly exchange it in local boards, but here the main term is the same - the post should to have sense, be on topic and be interesting.

TheQuin

hero member

Activity: 2576

Merit: 883

Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2

Quote from: poutintsev on June 22, 2018, 04:13:55 AM

I read those whole post. I'm pretty sure if I or someone like me applied to become Merit source he would not accept me.

Correct.

Quote from: theymos on January 24, 2018, 06:00:11 PM

If you want to be a merit source:

1. Be a somewhat established member.

Quote from: poutintsev on June 22, 2018, 04:13:55 AM

Merit system is being abused already

It has been from the start but as time goes on they are running out of the distributed sMerit to use. That means it is becoming far less of a problem and will soon die out.

poutintsev

jr. member

Activity: 164

Merit: 3

Quote from: d5000 on June 22, 2018, 03:55:42 AM

Quote from: poutintsev on June 22, 2018, 03:48:39 AM

This is so unfair! On what basis you selected these users? Cronyism?

Read theymos' first post completely

Everybody can apply to be a merit source.

Quote

In order for Merit system to be fair all users should be given e.g. 10 S-Merit and they could send it to each other.

That would work against the goals of the merit system, as it would encourage account farming. It would take 2000 spam-bot accounts to create a Legendary ... no problem for people with the necessary technical knowledge.

I read those whole post. I'm pretty sure if I or someone like me applied to become Merit source he would not accept me.

Merit system is being abused already, but that way everyone could do it, not just selected few. This is hat equality is about. Either everyone can do that, or no one. Those are the only options.

d5000

legendary

Activity: 3906

Merit: 6249

Decentralization Maximalist

Quote from: poutintsev on June 22, 2018, 03:48:39 AM

This is so unfair! On what basis you selected these users? Cronyism?

Read theymos' first post completely

Everybody can apply to be a merit source.

Quote

In order for Merit system to be fair all users should be given e.g. 10 S-Merit and they could send it to each other.

That would work against the goals of the merit system, as it would encourage account farming. It would take 2000 spam-bot accounts to create a Legendary ... no problem for people with the necessary technical knowledge.

poutintsev

jr. member

Activity: 164

Merit: 3

Quote from: theymos on January 24, 2018, 06:00:11 PM

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

This is so unfair! On what basis you selected these users? Cronyism?

In order for Merit system to be fair all users should be given e.g. 10 S-Merit and they could send it to each other.

d5000

legendary

Activity: 3906

Merit: 6249

Decentralization Maximalist

Quote from: joulion86 on June 21, 2018, 08:26:21 AM

I actually would like an even stricter Merit system: a system were you need to continuously earn merits to be and stay a certain rank. A system where you are never done earning, because only your last 3-6 months are counted. This would remove a lot of paid spam.

In the past I supported similar ideas, but now I am against them again - the problem is that you always punish honest people with such a system, mostly members who wear signatures which are un-paid, and visit this forum not so frequently. Like most of the Core developers, for example ...

The goal of "decaying merits" is obviously to rank-down accounts which achieved a high rank automatically by spamming (via Activity) before the merit system was introduced. That goal can be achieved also by other, less drastic means. As people told me, what is currently being done is that the worst spammers/farmers are (slowly) being banned. So in a couple of months we can expect that only few "farmed Legendaries/Heroes" will be left.

I am currently beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel - the usually megathread-dominated "Bitcoin Discussion" subforum seemed, today, a bit more interesting that it used to be in the last months. At least a handful of serious threads at the first page. Maybe it's beginning to work

Xiaolongnu

jr. member

Activity: 375

Merit: 3

Quote from: aksen on June 21, 2018, 10:46:13 PM

Quote from: Sova_tmb on June 21, 2018, 04:41:09 PM

~snip

Here is my opinion about these two:

1) I agree that this happens but I am strictly against this. This forum has members from all over the world and thus the English of some members will be bad in comparison to native speakers. Still, if his content has information and value, we should appreciate it.

This is an international forum, English is main language. Also, we have local board for languages that have big community.

Quote from: aksen on June 21, 2018, 10:46:13 PM

2) Lazy is also good sometimes as they will find some easy ways to get merits (not merit abuse).

It doesn't work in Merit's situation.

Sova_tmb

jr. member

Activity: 378

Merit: 2

Quote from: aksen on June 21, 2018, 10:46:13 PM

Quote from: Sova_tmb on June 21, 2018, 04:41:09 PM

Hello guys, to my opinion merit fair system , just the problem because people don't receive merit in the next:

1) Poor english.

2) Very lazy and don't read useful information and share with another users.

Thank you for reading

Here is my opinion about these two:

1) I agree that this happens but I am strictly against this. This forum has members from all over the world and thus the English of some members will be bad in comparison to native speakers. Still, if his content has information and value, we should appreciate it.

2) Lazy is also good sometimes as they will find some easy ways to get merits (not merit abuse).

But in local board less people. English is a international language and main for many people.

JayJuanGee

legendary

Activity: 3892

Merit: 11105

Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: milugau on June 21, 2018, 10:39:19 PM

Quote from: jljahid1020 on June 21, 2018, 08:39:01 PM

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Next time, you should only give link to original topic.
Quoting long contents like this might lead to annoying feelings of readers, hurt their fingers a bit. Grin

Actually, the better practice for posting any links is to post the link with either a short description of the content, and/or a comment about the content. Another thing is to provide a short snippet about which portion of the substance of the link that you would like to make a comment... In any event posting links should be accompanied by some kind of comment that shows why you are posting such link (rather than the link by itself).

I completely agree that it is annoying as fuck to see the substance of a whole post copied and pasted, without any reference to why you are posting it.. and even if you reference why you are posting it, you frequently do not need to copy and paste the whole thing.

Sova_tmb

jr. member

Activity: 378

Merit: 2

Quote from: pugman on June 21, 2018, 04:49:37 PM

Quote from: Sova_tmb on June 21, 2018, 04:41:09 PM

Hello guys, to my opinion merit fair system , just the problem because people don't receive merit in the next:

1) Poor english.

2) Very lazy and don't read useful information and share with another users.

Thank you for reading

And you do both of those. What are you implying here? You want merit, well your post history is horrible, filled with bounty forms. I looked into it earlier today and decided not to merit you. Good luck, with ever ranking up. Ass-licking won't take you anywhere Wink

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It's my opinion mate and i'm not asking to give me merit.

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