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Topic: Merit not for sale! - page 10. (Read 3888 times)

hero member
Activity: 2968
Merit: 687
February 14, 2018, 11:16:11 AM
Many of the advantages of buying and selling are secret, and some people may take shortcuts.

There are always some people who find a way to break down the cause of the new system.
This is a sure thing even no matter how we do keep an eye on to those who sell off merits publicly but we cant really avoid the thing that there are people who do have hidden agenda selling out their merits for the sake of money or just purely farming it up with their own accounts.We are still on early phase of our new merit system and there are still lots of space to improve this thing if there are flaws regarding this one.
newbie
Activity: 168
Merit: 0
February 14, 2018, 01:15:53 AM
Many of the advantages of buying and selling are secret, and some people may take shortcuts.

There are always some people who find a way to break down the cause of the new system.
full member
Activity: 494
Merit: 120
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February 13, 2018, 06:43:44 PM
A lot of you speaks about fighting with spammers and I can't understand how this system do it)
I agree that improving quality of posts is important, but we will not have less useless topics that make good themes to go from the second page and lose attention...
And one more thing is that you need too much merit to level up and very a little of smerit to give to others...
PS I don't want to buy/sell anything related to this awesome forum)
jr. member
Activity: 78
Merit: 1
February 13, 2018, 02:47:18 PM
I have nothing against this new system, quite opposite I think it's good way to protect this forum from spammers. However, I have many things I need to take care of on a daily basis, and I sometimes have an hour only to spend here, in which due to various restrictions I can barely even start a proper discussion. I understand It's impossible to do any vetting to know who's a spammer and who wants to give value to the forum, but as a new member I will need to spend a huge amount of time until I am even able to give any contribution.

But either way, even though I wish I was more active in the past, or that I could be allowed to post more frequently, I'm totally against selling merit, since it defeats the purpose.
sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 253
February 13, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
I think this is great for reducing the number of users. and requires the struggle for users to increase their quality and rank. but this is one of the highlights, so the reward can be right to the users of good quality posts
member
Activity: 241
Merit: 36
February 13, 2018, 11:05:17 AM
perhaps because it's only just started, some people are not too familiar with merit. so it's very difficult to get merit even if posting with good quality. because most people think not too important also give them merit. so in the future I hope it works accordingly. if someone post with a good quality then appreciate it by giving merit. not just commenting and just leaving. thank you
newbie
Activity: 62
Merit: 0
February 13, 2018, 09:11:28 AM
It should be something you should work hard for, not something that you can buy easily. User's who have many of it shouldn't sell it because there are also users who are doing their best to earn it, it should be like what that are doing.
newbie
Activity: 210
Merit: 0
February 13, 2018, 08:24:28 AM
I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.

I heard with my collueges that there are a lot of bitcoin personnel selling there merits. It is not easy to level up our ranks if we don't buy merits. Hoping that higher rank member will share there merits without getting any profit.
member
Activity: 854
Merit: 10
February 13, 2018, 01:25:30 AM
Perhaps many buy and sell merit points in secret, I think it is very difficult to get merit points, most people will probably take a shortcut, maybe they have multiple accounts to send each other..
I agree .. I think naturally better without cheating and I do not feel jealous or jealous of seeing people get more merit by cheating way, I just do my job posting according to the rules that have been listed. Doing a good job is more valuable without cheating just wanting to get something to look good.

Don't bother about the merit system because mostly bounty managers are getting most merits from the people who are happy with them. Even i am also not bothering about the merit system and I follow according to rules they mentioned about posting.
full member
Activity: 658
Merit: 102
February 13, 2018, 01:25:04 AM
Instead of buying or selling a merit, it's better to practice improving your posts so you can gain merits in the future. Acquiring merits through quality posts is a sign that you are really not just want to make profits in this forum but also to contribute for improving the standard of posting to a higher level.
sr. member
Activity: 924
Merit: 255
February 13, 2018, 12:25:24 AM
Of course this certainly already happens, there are many people who're clever/take utilize of this system, and not just buying and selling "merit" only.. I'm sure there are many other activities to get a "merit", although the quality posts is not necessarily it's a good quality posts.
Well, which obviously I'm not involved with any of it, this definitely refers to a lot of people to get a "merit" due it's a prerequisite to raising the rank.
But however I believe, this system is very well aimed to be created.
newbie
Activity: 182
Merit: 0
February 12, 2018, 09:54:55 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

Hi all!
What Merit is?
Where can I find some info on it?

Merit is the new way system created by theymos to prevent the easy rank up of members.

Sell of merit is just a presumption. But it could be if the users abuse the use of sMerit.
sr. member
Activity: 2604
Merit: 338
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February 12, 2018, 02:44:02 PM
I agree that this new system is far from perfect and hope it will be upgraded.

I understantd that it motivates to write meaningful and useful post, but if the main problem of the forum (as I see) is too much completely useless posts (like: joined fb bounty, nice project...) and repeating topics, so merit is not solving it...

Another side, enough merits to share them have only high ranked guys like legendary, and I can't imagine how could I surprise them or give a new information to get some merit. And I understand that selling merit is much more profitable than just giving it for random people;)

And the last thing is that account s near legendary became really precious also for selling.

To conclude, I hope this system will grow to something usefull, fair for everybody and solve forum problems...
You are just talking about selling out accounts and selling out merits.I do agree that these things are valuable ones but its not really tolerated and you will only get  red paint if you are being caught on doing such activity. This system is fair but the thing you said about catching up higher rank members attention would be really hard yet those people do already have almost the knowledge into things. Getting merit is really hard this is why you do really need to impress someone or the community.
full member
Activity: 494
Merit: 120
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February 12, 2018, 01:29:27 PM
I agree that this new system is far from perfect and hope it will be upgraded.

I understantd that it motivates to write meaningful and useful post, but if the main problem of the forum (as I see) is too much completely useless posts (like: joined fb bounty, nice project...) and repeating topics, so merit is not solving it...

Another side, enough merits to share them have only high ranked guys like legendary, and I can't imagine how could I surprise them or give a new information to get some merit. And I understand that selling merit is much more profitable than just giving it for random people;)

And the last thing is that account s near legendary became really precious also for selling.

To conclude, I hope this system will grow to something usefull, fair for everybody and solve forum problems...
legendary
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1127
February 12, 2018, 10:47:51 AM
Perhaps many buy and sell merit points in secret, I think it is very difficult to get merit points, most people will probably take a shortcut, maybe they have multiple accounts to send each other..
I agree .. I think naturally better without cheating and I do not feel jealous or jealous of seeing people get more merit by cheating way, I just do my job posting according to the rules that have been listed. Doing a good job is more valuable without cheating just wanting to get something to look good.
Better to have no merit at all than on looking good by means of cheating which isnt really right at all and i would prefer to be fair atleast you would able to know that you arent good enough to get some merits but atleast you can get it on a fair way. Cheaters cant be avoided as long they do know that they will benefited on cheating they would do that no matter what happens.
member
Activity: 203
Merit: 10
February 12, 2018, 10:19:58 AM
With this new system it is hard to rank up because of a big g community bitcoin forum has. Fortunately it is good to have this kind of system to have a better qualily of post that are informative and helpful to others. Some people will probably already though of buying and selling of merit because it is really hard to get one. But for me o just contue posting and hoping i will get merit points.
sr. member
Activity: 2590
Merit: 452
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February 12, 2018, 09:59:38 AM
Perhaps many buy and sell merit points in secret, I think it is very difficult to get merit points, most people will probably take a shortcut, maybe they have multiple accounts to send each other..
I agree .. I think naturally better without cheating and I do not feel jealous or jealous of seeing people get more merit by cheating way, I just do my job posting according to the rules that have been listed. Doing a good job is more valuable without cheating just wanting to get something to look good.
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 514
February 07, 2018, 09:05:52 AM
I am agree with comment above. Do not think that I'm going crazy about Merits cause of I still have none after fixed ones which I got automatically on 25th January. The OP is so simple and obvious that I wonder, will it be so simple to get a lot of Merits for creating a topic on Bitcoin discussion board with the main idea like "let's talk on this board only about bitcoin, but nothing else"?
hero member
Activity: 1694
Merit: 502
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February 07, 2018, 08:33:52 AM
Can someone explain me how this topic is constructive? Can someone explain me quality of this topic? How OP got so many merits just from this one thread?
How time is passing I doubt that this merit's will improve anything, it can stop people from getting to higher ranks but this can't be a good thing generally.
I would like to hear some explanations, but I doubt that I will get some 'quality answers' cause it's impossible. Merits will be the tool for manipulation on this forum, just chosen ones will advance and who will be this chosen ones depends from who is better friend with admins or who ever have sMerits.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1049
February 06, 2018, 11:06:21 PM
which I have captured in this new law, it may be a trap for those who have an account,
because it is in the make sure they will give merit to their own account.
and if it is detected by the system in this forum some people will be banned to join again in this forum.
I think this is the best way to prescribe a merit system for people who cheat.
It is not impossible but what i saw not all who tried to cheat will be caught for some reasons even buying merit is going to the social media which is totally useless because if their post quality is not deserves a merit. Going to another point that merit system was being abuse by some who escapes the judgement of being caught this needs only some improvement and i know theymos will going to make it more useful for both cheaters and good quality posters.

The best clue to detect the abuse on merit system is by checking on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

Simple like this..
If we noticed that A person always give merit to B person , that would be the first hint.  - Frequency
Second would be if A person give a merit to B person's post even though it is a sh*t post - Quality
Lastly, if A person give an instant 50 merit on B person's post - Quantity
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