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Topic: Merit not for sale! - page 9. (Read 3888 times)

member
Activity: 322
Merit: 12
March 01, 2018, 06:38:22 AM
Oh if it is really happening the buying of merits, It would be unfair to those who seriously follow the new rules implemented, though it sounds tough especially to the beginners like me because it seems we have no more chance to rank up because of too much high merit required inorder to move the rank, but then we need to understand also that it is part of improving everyone’s post to be more constructive, so we have to be truthful of strictly no selling merits towards one another, still honesty is the best policy.
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
February 28, 2018, 12:04:55 AM
I really agree. I as a newbie still learn a lot how to get merit without having to buy it.
member
Activity: 154
Merit: 12
February 27, 2018, 11:46:15 PM
This is really true, everyone here in Bitcointalk must work their asses out and strive to be a better member every now and then. The merit system might be a bit unfair especially to those that are just starting out in here but it does really have some benefits; thru this Merit system moderators are able to weed out or even discourage those junk posers and clean up those who mess with the forums. Selling merits shouldn't be tolerated at all and if proven guilty, ones account must be banned. If we just cheat then there is no point in helping each other out and sharing our thoughts. Please stay away from these kind of activities.
jr. member
Activity: 145
Merit: 2
February 27, 2018, 10:45:50 PM
merit is a reward for quality posts if it is sold the bonus system is being abused but this will not happen long. The system will detect it immediately
member
Activity: 252
Merit: 12
February 27, 2018, 09:28:05 PM
Merit points is good in other side. But hopefully, their will a person or people which monitor the quality of every post so that everyone have a chance to have merits. Everyone wants merit points and to rank-up their position. And, maybe the admin, should also consider the years of membership in category of ranking-up.
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 112
Ecosystem for Fundraising DAOs — ICOs 2.0
February 27, 2018, 07:47:07 PM
I really hope the good members here will get the help they deserve.

The advantage system is a good thing, at least we know that developers still care about the best members here.

No one will help you aside from yourself, people will give merit if they think you deserve it. For me just do your best, don’t focus much on ranking up because at that level you can still know better. You will got red trust if the DT members saw you selling or trading some merits, better to follow the process and enjoy later.

but the reality is some member who can actually ranks up but can't because of merit system. nobody want to give them merit because don't know the person, they just want to give merit to their relatives or friends. hence the good member who is actually build good post don't have merit. it's a reality, you can't just say good post=merit.

Sadly, that is also my observation. It is called social dynamics, if you are not in certain peoples circles it seems almost impossible to get recognized. It is similiar with other types of social media. If you study what prompts people to like posts on facebook for example, it has rarely to do with the quality of posts but rather how close people are to the individual who shares something. You surely noticed that there is a group of people that seem to hit the like button on almost everything you post on facebook or twitter while a large majority never seem to notice.

I am afraid the merit system is going to tap into that same kind of social dynamics...time will tell if I am right on this
hero member
Activity: 3010
Merit: 794
February 27, 2018, 02:18:11 PM
I think this is great for reducing the number of users. and requires the struggle for users to increase their quality and rank. but this is one of the highlights, so the reward can be right to the users of good quality posts
This is not correct.
Merit won't reduce number of users but it will reduce number of accounts. It is a big difference.
Account creation will really already have the limitation specially on farming but it doesnt really limit the number of users that would tend to register throughout the site.Its just still the same but now it would be more strictier and would be more harder compared before. Good post quality do already matters because if you dont do such thing you will not even ranked up.This is why abuse and merit selling  do really happens as of now.
newbie
Activity: 133
Merit: 0
February 27, 2018, 11:52:15 AM
I really hope the good members here will get the help they deserve.

The advantage system is a good thing, at least we know that developers still care about the best members here.

No one will help you aside from yourself, people will give merit if they think you deserve it. For me just do your best, don’t focus much on ranking up because at that level you can still know better. You will got red trust if the DT members saw you selling or trading some merits, better to follow the process and enjoy later.

but the reality is some member who can actually ranks up but can't because of merit system. nobody want to give them merit because don't know the person, they just want to give merit to their relatives or friends. hence the good member who is actually build good post don't have merit. it's a reality, you can't just say good post=merit.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
February 27, 2018, 10:49:02 AM
I think this is great for reducing the number of users. and requires the struggle for users to increase their quality and rank. but this is one of the highlights, so the reward can be right to the users of good quality posts
This is not correct.
Merit won't reduce number of users but it will reduce number of accounts. It is a big difference.
member
Activity: 210
Merit: 11
February 27, 2018, 10:44:40 AM
as it says everywhere there are people who want to get their benefits, those who sell as well as those who buy verit harm to our community.It is necessary to make it quality and spam and they do not understand the meaning of merit and want to get around this barrier and buy it, although it is better for them to be writing more reasonable articles and posts!and how long will they do it? over time, here only quality content and purchase will not give them anything of merit!



full member
Activity: 2128
Merit: 180
February 27, 2018, 07:12:45 AM
I really hope the good members here will get the help they deserve.

The advantage system is a good thing, at least we know that developers still care about the best members here.

No one will help you aside from yourself, people will give merit if they think you deserve it. For me just do your best, don’t focus much on ranking up because at that level you can still know better. You will got red trust if the DT members saw you selling or trading some merits, better to follow the process and enjoy later.
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 112
Ecosystem for Fundraising DAOs — ICOs 2.0
February 27, 2018, 07:02:12 AM
I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.

I like the idea of the merit system but it is putting hero and legendary accounts in a strong position that they did not work for the same way as younger members. I am totally annoyed when I look at my current bounty campaign. Some hero/legendary jumping in late will get more stakes than me with only participating short time and I can clearly see when those accounts got purchased either by change in language or long gap in usage.

For the merit system to work I feel there has to be more clarity to members that they dont lose anything giving merit for posts they like. Also a small incentive would be good like for 5 merit you give someone you get 0.5 yourself or something in that style. If members are supposed to do quality control there has to be some reward.

Currently there is only an incentive to go to specific talks where potential merit donators hang out to get some from those. There is not point yet to add quality content. I put at least some effort in my posts and did not get single merit point so far so the merit system right now for me a pain in the ass as I was hoping to make it senior member at some stage and now I also have to worry about that merit thing.

You speak my mind and pointed out exactly what also frustrates me with this new system. You also made a good suggestion regarding the improvement of the current adoption. Unfortunately no one seemingly took any notice, let alone dropping you some merit. Regarding your own status, you received 1 merit from me for another good post earlier, not much to get anywhere close to rank up, but I don't have much myself despite being in the forum since almost half a year and trying to write informative posts. Needless to say I did not receive a single merit myself...it's quite depressing but nothing we can do
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
February 27, 2018, 06:54:29 AM
I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.

This is actually should happen with the new merit system, its not for sale.
But many member just use this new feature to gain much money. The only member who get merit is member who allow to pay it.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
February 27, 2018, 06:08:02 AM
There is no sense in buying merits, because it's not to rank up the aim of this forum.
But some people make a living just earning little money from campaigns, so for them it's important to have merit, and probably they will buy them,.
newbie
Activity: 98
Merit: 0
February 27, 2018, 04:57:17 AM
I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.
Saddly, but many people are already selling/buying Merit points, for example here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-have-26-merits-buy-it-if-you-want-2827197
On local boards there are much more Merit sellers. There was people who got 20 or even 50 Merit for a low quality posts, it's obvious abuse of Merit system. Both, buyer and seller has to be reported to DT members and they will give them red trust rating.
I have no idea to buy merit, even I've get no one. I'm trying to post something good, help and give support  anyone in any thread, etc. For me, merit is a bonus for the the best can we did. It is a given. And honestly, I have no money to buy it.  Grin
jr. member
Activity: 94
Merit: 5
February 27, 2018, 03:00:48 AM
Buying merit is one way of cheating in my opinion, whereas in the buyer's account there is no quality post at all that there is only spam. It would be the envy of the members of the forum who have been trying hard to make a good post. Until now I have not got merit. Hopefully quickly given a redtrust.
newbie
Activity: 168
Merit: 0
February 26, 2018, 09:05:31 PM
I really hope the good members here will get the help they deserve.

The advantage system is a good thing, at least we know that developers still care about the best members here.
member
Activity: 173
Merit: 10
February 26, 2018, 08:14:51 PM
I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.
I agree to you, but sadly many of them the merit will become the buy and sell. Many of us I think has a truly and surely answer in the forum but they not given a Merit. So they think it's better to buy than torturing their self to think a better answer.
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 131
February 26, 2018, 05:35:55 PM
I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.

I like the idea of the merit system but it is putting hero and legendary accounts in a strong position that they did not work for the same way as younger members. I am totally annoyed when I look at my current bounty campaign. Some hero/legendary jumping in late will get more stakes than me with only participating short time and I can clearly see when those accounts got purchased either by change in language or long gap in usage.

For the merit system to work I feel there has to be more clarity to members that they dont lose anything giving merit for posts they like. Also a small incentive would be good like for 5 merit you give someone you get 0.5 yourself or something in that style. If members are supposed to do quality control there has to be some reward.

Currently there is only an incentive to go to specific talks where potential merit donators hang out to get some from those. There is not point yet to add quality content. I put at least some effort in my posts and did not get single merit point so far so the merit system right now for me a pain in the ass as I was hoping to make it senior member at some stage and now I also have to worry about that merit thing.
sr. member
Activity: 854
Merit: 252
February 14, 2018, 11:44:39 AM
I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.

Selling merit for me is not a good way to sell it. This should be give for the member who deserves to receive a merit because of constructive and quality post. Though there is no rules for the member where selling merit is not allowable. Perhaps if they will release a new rules where selling merits is prohibited.
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