Sent them today the second notifications. The fist reports were ignored. Do Russian mods support the break of rule 27? If they do I perhaps will spam there doing Google translate.
I can help you in this maybe it will work as a support on the reports you make.When you report, can you make a list of the posts and PM me end of the day, everyday? I will also report those posts and since I have more than 300 reports I can easily share the report status.
If I was an expert in the Russian language then I would do it by my own.
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Let me represent this a better way so that the mods can easily get his trick.
This is for the mods.
Post in question: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5283655
https://archive.vn/RzghC#selection-494.1-503.51
Google translation Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? Yes, he is. With such brave investigative work, soon you will be I'll do. Next inspection is about to come. Today I'll probe their mods to see how wide is corruption in Russian section sending them my first report accompanied by following comment "Google-Translate-assisted to habitually break Rule#27. Inspectorate https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55836376 " , de facto I have reported three cases.  Sent them today the second notifications. The fist reports were ignored. Do Russian mods support the break of rule 27? If they do I perhaps will spam there doing Google translate. de facto, that was intended to be regarded to as to vitriol. Today I'll probe their mods to see how wide is corruption of Russian section sending them my first report accompanied by following comment "Google-Translate-assisted to habitually break Rule#27. Inspectorate https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55836376 " I like the reporting idea than this you had in mind few days ago.With the 2nd one you would not help the community but with these reports you certainly is going to have a huge contribution, favour to the community. Maybe all these breaking Rule#27 were unnoticed by the Russian users and mods. Weird to think though. If you have free time and much care for the community, I will encourage you to focus on reporting. Thanks mate. Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? Yes, he is. With such brave investigative work, soon you will be I'll do. Next inspection is about to come. Today I'll probe their mods to see how wide is corruption in Russian section sending them my first report accompanied by following comment "Google-Translate-assisted to habitually break Rule#27. Inspectorate https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55836376 " , de facto I have reported three cases. I have not had time to analyse his post history. Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? If so, then even with attribution, that runs roughshod over the purpose of Global Rule #27; and it also violates the Russian local forum’s rule against “stuffing”, insofar as the posts are just copy-paste jobs. Yes, it is. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5224353 Ratimov and zasad@ are corrupt. They both spammed Russian local with Google translations. [...] Google translations for Bitcointalk is more valuable than anything else? I have no other reasonable explanations for the facts of farming 2 spammer's accounts into heroes in 1 year and for amount of merit exceeding the activity by ~4 times. Thanks for the insight from a Russian local regular. I have a question that perhaps may be best answered from your perspective. I detect from your signature (and your previous signature!) that you have a certain... dislike for sigspam. I myself have always refused a paid signature; but I am more moderate toward this issue. I think that some good people get paid for their time and effort on the forum; and because they are good contributors, they only accept signatures from campaigns with the best reputations for zero spam. Now, in the thread to which you linked (and johhny linked before here), I noticed something that made me uncomfortable. Vadi2323 (Legendary, registration date in 2014) has a parody signature hostile to Chipmixer. As a privacy advocate, I have oftentimes defended Chipmixer’s reputation. I even ran my own little custom Chipmixer ad for nine months, with zero payment — not in the official campaign! — only to show solidarity with Chipmixer, and to protest against this type of hostility. I wonder, why the hostility toward Chipmixer? Is the Google Translate spam from Ratimov bringing ill repute to his sponsor inside the Russian forum, where perhaps the campaign manager may not be able to follow all activity? My thanks for any further insight that may be provided by you, or by other Russian forum regulars who despise spam. (Note: This text has been tested and modified, to make it a little bit easier for Russian users to read with Google Translate. Thus, it is not quite my usual writing style.) You are welcome. Any pay-per-post signature campaign generates sigspam because even good people obey the psychological principles of loss avoidance. I don't see any other troubles with the fact that good people are getting paid for signature. It's hard to deny that the bulk of Chipmixer's users use it as a laundry. This isn't a reason for me to organize a crusade against Chipmixer. By the way, Chipmixer sponsors another type of sigspam in Russian local - taikuri13. Most posts of this user are similar to the output of a neural network for generating texts. Posts contain all the keywords of the topic but anyone who tries to understand them risks getting a brain fracture. Technically it doesn't violate forum rules, practically the quality of his posts is close to garbage. It seems that Ratimov's sponsor doesn't care about reputation. Perhaps this is the reason for hostility toward Chipmixer. Thanks for simplifying the text. P.S., fxpc, perhaps I would copy your signature — if my signature were not bought and paid for by my PGP key fingerprint!  Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? Yes, he is. With such brave investigative work, soon you will be Maybe the officials are still puzzled and looking for a way to stop this kind of activities. I hope so. I have not had time to analyse his post history. Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? If so, then even with attribution, that runs roughshod over the purpose of Global Rule #27; and it also violates the Russian local forum’s rule against “stuffing”, insofar as the posts are just copy-paste jobs. Yes, it is. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5224353 Ratimov and zasad@ are corrupt. They both spammed Russian local with Google translations. [...] Google translations for Bitcointalk is more valuable than anything else? I have no other reasonable explanations for the facts of farming 2 spammer's accounts into heroes in 1 year and for amount of merit exceeding the activity by ~4 times. Thanks for the insight from a Russian local regular. I have a question that perhaps may be best answered from your perspective. I detect from your signature (and your previous signature!) that you have a certain... dislike for sigspam. I myself have always refused a paid signature; but I am more moderate toward this issue. I think that some good people get paid for their time and effort on the forum; and because they are good contributors, they only accept signatures from campaigns with the best reputations for zero spam. Now, in the thread to which you linked (and johhny linked before here), I noticed something that made me uncomfortable. Vadi2323 (Legendary, registration date in 2014) has a parody signature hostile to Chipmixer. As a privacy advocate, I have oftentimes defended Chipmixer’s reputation. I even ran my own little custom Chipmixer ad for nine months, with zero payment — not in the official campaign! — only to show solidarity with Chipmixer, and to protest against this type of hostility. I wonder, why the hostility toward Chipmixer? Is the Google Translate spam from Ratimov bringing ill repute to his sponsor inside the Russian forum, where perhaps the campaign manager may not be able to follow all activity? My thanks for any further insight that may be provided by you, or by other Russian forum regulars who despise spam. (Note: This text has been tested and modified, to make it a little bit easier for Russian users to read with Google Translate. Thus, it is not quite my usual writing style.) Satoshi, we fucked everything up. (johhnyUA) It is a wise quote. On many points. Unfortunately. P.S., fxpc, perhaps I would copy your signature — if my signature were not bought and paid for by my PGP key fingerprint! I have not had time to analyse his post history. Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? If so, then even with attribution, that runs roughshod over the purpose of Global Rule #27; and it also violates the Russian local forum’s rule against “stuffing”, insofar as the posts are just copy-paste jobs. Yes, it is. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5224353 Ratimov and zasad@ are corrupt. They both spammed Russian local with Google translations. I doubt very much that these are 2 different persons but it isn't important. Both users are involved in merit abuse to monetize their spam. Bestchange - advertising buyer from zasad@ (not only signature campaign) said: Xoтим пoблaгoдapить zasad@ зa eгo вклaд в paзвитиe кpиптoвaлютнoгo cooбщecтвa. Quote from: Translation We would like to thank zasad@ for his contribution to the development of the cryptocurrency community. Bestchange didn't answer to my public question - how does he measure this "development"? But zasad@ fell into hysterics as it happened many times before, which is surprisingly similar to Ratimov's hysterics.https://archive.is/noAz2 Google translations for Bitcointalk is more valuable than anything else? I have no other reasonable explanations for the facts of farming 2 spammer's accounts into heroes in 1 year and for amount of merit exceeding the activity by ~4 times. Satoshi, we fucked everything up. (johhnyUA) I don't know how many reports you currently have but from 300 good reports you have access to these statistics. zero Original : https://medium.com/blockstream/musig2-simple-two-round-schnorr-multisignatures-bf9582e99295 Google-Translate-assisted Ratimov's spam that violates Rule#27: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5287342 ( https://archive.is/UOAcs ) Google Translate of random passage pertaining to that spam:  Comparison of two:  How can I get such reports status? I don't know how many reports you currently have but from 300 good reports you have access to these statistics. Other source: new report history stats accessed after 300 good reports  How can I get such reports status? Original : https://medium.com/swlh/bitcoin-facing-gold-and-fiat-currencies-on-10-essential-properties-of-money-441c26a8f51d Google-Translate-assisted Ratimov's spam that violates Rule#27: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5210081 (https://archive.vn/43QVs) Google Translate of random passage pertaining to that spam:  Comparison of two:  Wouldn't OP mind to change the thread title to Merit_Source&Plagiarist&Rule27_disruptor: Ratimov ? .... Blessing, but "a rabbit hole" is much deeper. Let's not go against mods, admins or anyone here just because a user found a way to abuse a rule. Maybe the officials are still puzzled and looking for a way to stop this kind of activities. Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? Yes, he is. Original : https://blog.trezor.io/why-you-should-not-use-paypal-for-bitcoin-f6e2d436ca96 Google-Translate-assisted Ratimov's spam that violates Rule#27 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5283655 (https://archive.is/lfB4U) Google Translate of random passage pertaining to that spam:  Comparison of two:  Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him. Yeah. I sort of hate to see Ratimov get banned, but if he plagiarized something then at the very least he deserves a temp or a signature ban--and that would only be if Theymos agreed that he deserved such lenient treatment. I think I've only seen one or two members get their accounts restored, so it's rare.It’s ironic that at this juncture, you mention theymos’ general hard line against plagiarism. For in the Russian Reputation topic, Ratimov is now claiming that theymos has answered this Meta topic (via global moderator request)—impliedly to his favour. I think that he is playing the language barrier, insofar as many of the Russian readers may not understand this discussion—unless they use Google Translate, of course! (Though every Russian will understand what I said to lovesmayfamilis—etc., etc.) Cлoyпoк, oн yжe кaк 10 днeй тaм гopит, тaм yжe oтвeтили пoчти вce, включaя мoдepoв и тeймoca(чepeз зaпpoc глoбaлa) A LVL F тoлькo peкoмeндyeт. C пoдключeниeм.  Ratimov claims that only trolls are interested in this hereby Meta topic—indeed, that only trolls say that what he did is plagiarism: Кoтopыe yжe oтпиcaлиcь тaм или пpocтo пpoшли мимo? Cлoyпoк. Taм yжe дaвнo paзoбpaлиcь, чтo этo пoд плaгиaт нe зaпиcaть, тoлькo пaчкa тpoллeй ocтaлacь дaльшe мycoлить этy тeмy. To my awareness, the only staff member who has commented publicly about Ratimov is Xal0lex, whose post on this topic was clearly wrong (as argued by myself and others in the ensuing pages). My discussion with mprep in the Rules thread, and mprep’s request for theymos’ opinion, was about the automated translation Rule #27, not the plagiarism rule; and it was a general question about the rules, not a specific question about the Ratimov case. (I also asked for a review of the plagiarism rule; but mprep declined to proceed with that.) It looks like Ratimov is making this up as he goes along. I often spend hours of painstaking effort on one post. I know that some other high-merit users invest similarly. It's obvious you do, though that tends to force other members to have to invest tons of time reading what you wrote, which I cannot consistently do I'm afraid. But that's a "me" problem and not a "you" one.No problem. I know that many of my posts about philosophy, history, art, culture, or politics may be, shall we say, “not of common interest”. It is why I mostly chose to list highly original posts on topics of interest to every reasonably intelligent reader of this forum: Bitcoin, and privacy. (To make some other points by the way, I started with a 2017 Bitcoin post that is very vitriolic toward Bcashers; and I added in a few DT/forum community classics.) That was not to brag about myself, but to illustrate why I care about this topic—and also to illustrate ScumBuster’s point, by contrast. The production of original work would neither justify nor excuse plagiarism; however, there is still a difference in degree between an occasional cheater (= bad), and one who substantially fakes his whole reputation with rip-offs of others’ work (= worse). Ratimov and his supporters claim that he is oh so great. Any monkey can copy and paste articles, with or without Google Translate. If Ratimov is such a great contributor to the community, really, please: Where are his high-quality original contributions? Will the Superhero Ratimov deign to treat us to a portfolio shortlist of his knowledgeable, in-depth original work, like the list that I easily provided for myself? I need not comment on what my list shows about Ratimov’s allegation that only trolls are interested in this Meta topic. On its face, Ratimov’s post does blatantly violate (at least) Global Rule #27, Yes, that was the connotation of my message. Literally the half of his Russian contribution is Google Translate copypasta which violates Rule #27. That Ratimov's rule#27- breaking-copypasta is so wide that it goes far beyond the scope of this thread and requires the new one filled in the details. I suggest that it’s unnecessary to proliferate threads about Ratimov. There should probably be a Reputation topic about his DT status; but making too many Meta topics about one person would dissipate the signal, and raise the noise. Neither helps lead to appropriate actions; and it would be inconvenient for people to follow multiple threads about Ratimov. I offer this advice to help the Newbie.  If Ratimov is habitually breaking other forum rules, that is a Meta issue. Unless OP objects that it may dilute the focus of the topic on the most serious accusation of plagiarism, I propose that we should discuss that here. I have not had time to analyse his post history. Is Ratimov habitually spamming the Russian local with Google translations of others’ articles? If so, then even with attribution, that runs roughshod over the purpose of Global Rule #27; and it also violates the Russian local forum’s rule against “stuffing”, insofar as the posts are just copy-paste jobs. Maybe this time I have to challenge Russian section and place there my "genuine" Ratimiv's style article . Ratimov does reverse in the local https://www.fidelitydigitalassets.com/articles/corporate-treasurer-bitcoin [...] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5281318 [...] What do you think? On its face, Ratimov’s post does blatantly violate (at least) Global Rule #27, Yes, that was the connotation of my message. Literally the half of his Russian contribution is Google Translate copypasta which violates Rule #27. That Ratimov's rule#27- breaking-copypasta is so wide that it goes far beyond the scope of this thread and requires the new one filled in the details. Reported with the following comments: Quote used automated translator, investigation : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55826294  Blessing, but "a rabbit hole" is much deeper. I often spend hours of painstaking effort on one post. I know that some other high-merit users invest similarly. It's obvious you do, though that tends to force other members to have to invest tons of time reading what you wrote, which I cannot consistently do I'm afraid. But that's a "me" problem and not a "you" one.Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him. Yeah. I sort of hate to see Ratimov get banned, but if he plagiarized something then at the very least he deserves a temp or a signature ban--and that would only be if Theymos agreed that he deserved such lenient treatment. I think I've only seen one or two members get their accounts restored, so it's rare. Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him. My opinion is that there is no plagiarism. My opinion is that there is plagiarism.  + I create new topic about Ratimov https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-source-bot-farmer-negative-trust-ratimov-5300035 Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him. My opinion is that there is no plagiarism.
Smartprofit, this topic is for the plagiarism case so you should probably stick to that. Maybe you can create a separate thread and list all his accomplishments on his behalf if you feel like defending him.
I would like to note that I really like to read the materials of the user Ratimov on the forum.
I periodically read articles on various issues of the crypto industry. These articles have been translated from English. Ratimov also writes interesting posts on trading and on general issues of the forum (this is original content). It seems to me that Ratimov performs a very important function on the forum - he systematizes various content. It seems to me that he motivates other members of the forum to write better content. There are not very many participants on the forum now. Every active forum member is very valuable to our community. I observe that this post was made on 2020-12-13, after this thread was raised on 2020-12-05. Ratimov’s citation is in a format more or less similar to what I myself suggested 2020-12-10; and he uses exactly the format for (human) translations that I suggested to wolwoo on 2020-04-17; thus, I certainly don’t call that plagiarism. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5281318This has reference at the topic ✅ This is not plagiarism ✅ This is not translation ✅ Then what is it ❓ A head to head comparison just to make it as clear as mineral water
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