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Topic: Message to Satoshi, please dump your 1million bitcoins (Read 1342 times)

sr. member
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Nope. Honestly, That would be a huge disaster for everyone.

That's the point. The coin is not decentralized nor revolutionary(only the blockchain is), and has none of the bearings of an actual currency(no sane average person is going to use bitcoin to buy groceries when it's price can drop down $1,000 within 24 hours, etc). After all these years, it's still just a pump and dump pennystock
you got the point mate,but still if satoshi do as what OP says the whole crypto will collapsed and no one  coin will survive..why not just let the market flows on its own way.dont interfere on the pricing becaue the survival rate of market depends on the value of the coins in circulations.
member
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Bitcoin so has been so successful since its creation because it has manage to survived the struggles that are being faced by the new coins today like the reliability and accessibility. Bitcoin has almost been able to blend in the world of market. Do you really think such thing like destroying bitcoin then start over will be beneficial?
copper member
Activity: 64
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I wonder why you will think this low  Huh. I don't blame you but sorry, bitcoin can never comeback to $0.01 for you to buy.
newbie
Activity: 26
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if what you are trying to imply is true that satoshi still has a stack of million bitcoin's.
then i believe enticing him to sell this will cause more disadvantage rather than benefits.
aside from totally disrupting the market price - other people may also lose trust with bitcoin and make them leave it for good.
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for me it will be better if we will leave it the way it is.
if satoshi was able to hold it until this time then it only means that he can hold it for a longer time.
we don't have to be afraid of what he is hodling because i am confident that he knows what he has to do with it.
sr. member
Activity: 812
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Satoshi, bitcoin is extremely volatile and run by organizations now, not the people.

Bitcoin volatility is well documented, but do you have a source in saying that Bitcoin is being run by an organizations?

There's constant forks such as Bitcoin Cash and other garbage that shows just how jokey the coin is.

I actually think forks show the exact opposite; it makes a great foundation for some shitcoin some random person is trying to launch. Fact of the matter is, most altcoins were based off Bitcoin, which is a testament as to how solid it is.

The only thing worthwhile is the blockchain itself and I honestly believe this was not meant to function as a method of payment, but as a method of storage(Bitcoin's constant dramatic price changes, good and bad, show this)

It was meant as a method of payment. Whether it is ideal as a form of payment is up in the air. I personally believe it could be, and that its value will settle down once it actually gets a good chunk of adoption.

My resolution? Dump all your bitcoins on the biggest exchanges and destroy the currency, then start over.

I'm not sure this will destroy Bitcoin. It will cause a massive slide, yes, but recovery isn't out of the question. Not to mention that this will never happen; Satoshi has had every opportunity to be a billionaire and has never taken it. He's not going to take it now.

That will indeed shook some of the foundation but it is a mere 5% of the total amount of bitcoins to be mined and so it will not be able to completely render it useless if he dumps them but rather it will be cheap and others will buy at this time and join so the price will likely rise back up.
hero member
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Haven't heard something that stuff I'd for awhile now. That wouldn't help and Bitcoin is a method of payment and obviously it's violatile it's a new currency currently in adoption. It's not like fiat which has been around and has been established and used for a very long time. The same thing will just happen and Satoshi could always buy some Bitcoin back.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
Satoshi, bitcoin is extremely volatile and run by organizations now, not the people. There's constant forks such as Bitcoin Cash and other garbage that shows just how jokey the coin is. The only thing worthwhile is the blockchain itself and I honestly believe this was not meant to function as a method of payment, but as a method of storage(Bitcoin's constant dramatic price changes, good and bad, show this)
 
My resolution? Dump all your bitcoins on the biggest exchanges and destroy the currency, then start over.

What makes you think dumping the coins will stop people from forking the coin or creating other Alt coins? The Blockchain is

the core thing that are being exploited at the moment. When a Bank or some financial institution says they are not interested

in the Bitcoin token, but only in the Blockchain technology, then you know we did something right.  Grin
hero member
Activity: 1890
Merit: 831
Pardon me but that's exactly how a terrorist thinks.

' The world's a cruel place , let's just wipe everything up and start over '

What he fails to understand is that starting over is doing a mockery upon all the people who have worked forward to achieve this very place it is now.

Just like that bitcoins have seen a lot of ups and downs , a lots of effort has been put into it to make it amazingly dominant and worth the wait, I do think that instead of starting over .. making corrections will be more appropriate.
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 4
Satoshi, bitcoin is extremely volatile and run by organizations now, not the people. There's constant forks such as Bitcoin Cash and other garbage that shows just how jokey the coin is. The only thing worthwhile is the blockchain itself and I honestly believe this was not meant to function as a method of payment, but as a method of storage(Bitcoin's constant dramatic price changes, good and bad, show this)
 
My resolution? Dump all your bitcoins on the biggest exchanges and destroy the currency, then start over.
You can probably do that or if you want i will buy your BTC with 50% off in google's price,you should go first before anyone will follow.You shouldnt be using bitcoin if you do not believe in the technology behind it which is the blockchain.
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1) As you can clearly see on https://blockchain.info/pools Bitcoin mining is condensed into mostly a few pools. Coinbase themselves own the largest % of Bitcoins after Satoshi.

What does mining have to do with anything? I agree that the hashpower isn't as well distributed as well as I would like it to be, but it shouldn't matter for as long as a single entity doesn't hold more than 50%.

2) Constant forks that are "accepted" undermine Bitcoin, such as Bitcoin Cash, etc. This shows to the average person that Bitcoin is more like play money than anything substantial. Do you see there being any variants of the USD? No, there's only one United States Fiat

No forks are actually accepted by the community as the true Bitcoin though. Every fork is a side project and an altcoin. The moment it forks from Bitcoin, it becomes a different entity which takes advantage of Bitcoin's open source nature to use its branding. There is only one Bitcoin just like there is only one United States fiat. Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash is far more comparable to, say, the United States Dollar to the Australian Dollar -- they may share a portion of their name but they're different entities.

3) Bitcoin could never be anything close to an ideal method of payment. There is absolutely no way to solve Bitcoin's volatility currently, hence it will never become widely adopted. Not to mention once Bitcoin's are stolen, the action cannot be reversed(Like it could with banks, etc), and in the future quantamn computing will break into Bitcoin. Those few among many are reasons the average person will never use this crypto to buy groceries at the supermarket. Also, bitcoin is becoming used less, as Steam and others have stopped accepting it due to it's extremely slow confirmation times and high fees.

I respect that opinion. It's easy to be pessimistic towards Bitcoin's future as a method of payment because of how things have been going recently. However, there is no guarantee that quantum computing can break into Bitcoin. The slow confirmation times and high fees are also set to be addressed by future changes like the Lightning Network. Only time will tell.

Unfortunately quantum computing can 100% break into Bitcoins PoW. It can also break any known crypography today. The issue is, centralized services, while they can be hacked, your money is still ensured and $ gained by the attacker(digital) would be rendered void and worthless by the government. So if your bank get's hacked, you have an insurance for upto 250,000$ in the USA. So yea the hacking is going to cause problems(privacy leaks, etc), but not a total disruption.

However, if Bitcoin PoW were to be hacked, it's game over, the currency is dead from that point on. The reason being is because once your coins are stolen, you cannot get them back. There is no insurance. The only question is when will this hack occur, 5 years, a decade from now? That is unfortunately, a huge flaw in a crypto like this. The future of cryptocurrency is not bitcoin, it's a currency with a built in, very advanced A.I(this right now isn't even remotely feasible, so I'm talking maybe a few decades in the future).

The future of money as a whole, is not cryptocurrency either. In the advent of the internet shutting down or being disrupted for whatever reason, there would be no feasible way to use any cryptocurrency(crypto's require the internet). However, physical fiat would not be affected.
newbie
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Well i think satoshi is in first only but. Maybe maybe it also be famous and become hug exchange rate.
newbie
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That would be very dangerous for the market. It would be better is the bitcoins would come out slowly but surely. It would cause a really unstable market.
hero member
Activity: 1834
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1) As you can clearly see on https://blockchain.info/pools Bitcoin mining is condensed into mostly a few pools. Coinbase themselves own the largest % of Bitcoins after Satoshi.

What does mining have to do with anything? I agree that the hashpower isn't as well distributed as well as I would like it to be, but it shouldn't matter for as long as a single entity doesn't hold more than 50%.

2) Constant forks that are "accepted" undermine Bitcoin, such as Bitcoin Cash, etc. This shows to the average person that Bitcoin is more like play money than anything substantial. Do you see there being any variants of the USD? No, there's only one United States Fiat

No forks are actually accepted by the community as the true Bitcoin though. Every fork is a side project and an altcoin. The moment it forks from Bitcoin, it becomes a different entity which takes advantage of Bitcoin's open source nature to use its branding. There is only one Bitcoin just like there is only one United States fiat. Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash is far more comparable to, say, the United States Dollar to the Australian Dollar -- they may share a portion of their name but they're different entities.

3) Bitcoin could never be anything close to an ideal method of payment. There is absolutely no way to solve Bitcoin's volatility currently, hence it will never become widely adopted. Not to mention once Bitcoin's are stolen, the action cannot be reversed(Like it could with banks, etc), and in the future quantamn computing will break into Bitcoin. Those few among many are reasons the average person will never use this crypto to buy groceries at the supermarket. Also, bitcoin is becoming used less, as Steam and others have stopped accepting it due to it's extremely slow confirmation times and high fees.

I respect that opinion. It's easy to be pessimistic towards Bitcoin's future as a method of payment because of how things have been going recently. However, there is no guarantee that quantum computing can break into Bitcoin. The slow confirmation times and high fees are also set to be addressed by future changes like the Lightning Network. Only time will tell.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Satoshi, bitcoin is extremely volatile and run by organizations now, not the people.

Bitcoin volatility is well documented, but do you have a source in saying that Bitcoin is being run by an organizations?

There's constant forks such as Bitcoin Cash and other garbage that shows just how jokey the coin is.

I actually think forks show the exact opposite; it makes a great foundation for some shitcoin some random person is trying to launch. Fact of the matter is, most altcoins were based off Bitcoin, which is a testament as to how solid it is.

The only thing worthwhile is the blockchain itself and I honestly believe this was not meant to function as a method of payment, but as a method of storage(Bitcoin's constant dramatic price changes, good and bad, show this)

It was meant as a method of payment. Whether it is ideal as a form of payment is up in the air. I personally believe it could be, and that its value will settle down once it actually gets a good chunk of adoption.

My resolution? Dump all your bitcoins on the biggest exchanges and destroy the currency, then start over.

I'm not sure this will destroy Bitcoin. It will cause a massive slide, yes, but recovery isn't out of the question. Not to mention that this will never happen; Satoshi has had every opportunity to be a billionaire and has never taken it. He's not going to take it now.

1) As you can clearly see on https://blockchain.info/pools Bitcoin mining is condensed into mostly a few pools. Coinbase themselves own the largest % of Bitcoins after Satoshi.

2) Constant forks that are "accepted" undermine Bitcoin, such as Bitcoin Cash, etc. This shows to the average person that Bitcoin is more like play money than anything substantial. Do you see there being any variants of the USD? No, there's only one United States Fiat

3) Bitcoin could never be anything close to an ideal method of payment. There is absolutely no way to solve Bitcoin's volatility currently, hence it will never become widely adopted. Not to mention once Bitcoin's are stolen, the action cannot be reversed(Like it could with banks, etc), and in the future quantamn computing will break into Bitcoin. Those few among many are reasons the average person will never use this crypto to buy groceries at the supermarket. Also, bitcoin is becoming used less, as Steam and others have stopped accepting it due to it's extremely slow confirmation times and high fees.

Bitcoin's exchange value is 100% speculative(it has no basis to it, it could drop to $100 by next week or go to $20,000), it's intrinsic value is based upon the $ it takes to mine one, which is less than $1500.
hero member
Activity: 1834
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Satoshi, bitcoin is extremely volatile and run by organizations now, not the people.

Bitcoin volatility is well documented, but do you have a source in saying that Bitcoin is being run by an organizations?

There's constant forks such as Bitcoin Cash and other garbage that shows just how jokey the coin is.

I actually think forks show the exact opposite; it makes a great foundation for some shitcoin some random person is trying to launch. Fact of the matter is, most altcoins were based off Bitcoin, which is a testament as to how solid it is.

The only thing worthwhile is the blockchain itself and I honestly believe this was not meant to function as a method of payment, but as a method of storage(Bitcoin's constant dramatic price changes, good and bad, show this)

It was meant as a method of payment. Whether it is ideal as a form of payment is up in the air. I personally believe it could be, and that its value will settle down once it actually gets a good chunk of adoption.

My resolution? Dump all your bitcoins on the biggest exchanges and destroy the currency, then start over.

I'm not sure this will destroy Bitcoin. It will cause a massive slide, yes, but recovery isn't out of the question. Not to mention that this will never happen; Satoshi has had every opportunity to be a billionaire and has never taken it. He's not going to take it now.
member
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It is still early in the development of encrypted currency that the price of bitcoin is often fluctuating, and now the market is full of too much speculating. I think there will be more practical projects combined with the block chain in the future, and maybe that time the money market will not be encrypted as it is now.
newbie
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Please don't, send them to me.
In all honesty, I think Satoshi is Gates or Ellison. Someone who doesn't need the money
hero member
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I thought that the common view was that 'Satoshi' was either the name of a group of developers or that the original 'Satoshi' was thought to have died?

I think that Satoshi would have been discovered by now.  It's difficult to 'lay-low' with such a fortune and to keep such a big secret for such a long time....
It is very easy for satoshi to lay low with such a fortune in bitcoin, he has not touched those coins and after so much time it is unlikely he is ever going to touch those coins, it is very likely that he deleted the private keys since it seems obvious he was not interested in being famous either, also there is not an agreement of who satoshi is or what has happened to him.
newbie
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I thought that the common view was that 'Satoshi' was either the name of a group of developers or that the original 'Satoshi' was thought to have died?

I think that Satoshi would have been discovered by now.  It's difficult to 'lay-low' with such a fortune and to keep such a big secret for such a long time....
legendary
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Maybe Satoshi lost the keys to the bitcoins in question, or perhaps Satoshi is deceased. Hal Finney was one of the first people to publicly work with Satoshi on bitcoin, perhaps they were one in the same and Satoshi was simply his nom de plume to avoid publicity. Now with Hal gone the keys are probably gone as well.
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