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Topic: MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’ - page 11. (Read 24427 times)

legendary
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I believe that he should start to be careful in my personal opinion. He's not doing his purchases using 100% of his own capital/money. It's actually a leveraged trade using MicroStrategy stock as collateral.

I think you have not understood it well and I have already explained it in the thread but I think it is easy to get lost in such a long thread, so I will explain it again: the debt that MSTR has is unsecured, therefore there is no collateral backing it.  

As of today MSTR finances bitcoin purchases in two ways:

1) ATM: it sells shares and with the money it buys bitcoin. These are newly created shares.

2) Convertible debt. The interest paid is ridiculous, 0% or close to 0%, and two things can happen, the share price can go up, so the convertible debt is converted into shares, or it can go down or stay more or less the same, so MSTR has to repay the debt, which is not much of a problem because the debt to equity ratio is quite low.

If his average entry price goes high enough because of Chad Saylor's new Bitcoin purchases, that could give the trade a higher probability for liquidation.

Nope. There is no liquidation because there is no secured debt. No margin calls.

Although I believe it's a historic investment that will be written in investment and finance books, he should still be very careful. What will he do during a -50% price crash?

Something similar to what he did in the previous -80% crash?

Will he scale down? Because that would indeed be very bearish. Instead of DCA at any price, it's probably better for him to wait, Buy the DIP, and HODL.

If Saylor has been so successful, it is precisely because he does not think like you. I know it is hard to understand, but that is precisely the basis of success.
legendary
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Trust me saylor loves btc so much, he will do anything to get money and buy btc, saylor's DCA is pretty good he doesn't look at the price to buy btc.


I believe that he should start to be careful in my personal opinion. He's not doing his purchases using 100% of his own capital/money. It's actually a leveraged trade using MicroStrategy stock as collateral. If his average entry price goes high enough because of Chad Saylor's new Bitcoin purchases, that could give the trade a higher probability for liquidation.

Although I believe it's a historic investment that will be written in investment and finance books, he should still be very careful. What will he do during a -50% price crash? Will he scale down? Because that would indeed be very bearish. Instead of DCA at any price, it's probably better for him to wait, Buy the DIP, and HODL.

He will not go that far for nothing and for sure Michael Saylor knows what he's doing. Microstrategy is big company and for sure aside from him he also have those good financial advisers that help him towards dealing good decisions with the money came in on their company.

And its good that Saylor believe that Bitcoin would experience more pumps in future since he already see that there would be a surge of demand would come in future especially that lots of countries and institution are participating doing some good investment with Bitcoin.

Maybe you would love to see this MICHAEL SAYLOR'S $100K NYE BITCOIN PARTY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OibhBEThA_o

legendary
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Trust me saylor loves btc so much, he will do anything to get money and buy btc, saylor's DCA is pretty good he doesn't look at the price to buy btc.


I believe that he should start to be careful in my personal opinion. He's not doing his purchases using 100% of his own capital/money. It's actually a leveraged trade using MicroStrategy stock as collateral. If his average entry price goes high enough because of Chad Saylor's new Bitcoin purchases, that could give the trade a higher probability for liquidation.

Although I believe it's a historic investment that will be written in investment and finance books, he should still be very careful. What will he do during a -50% price crash? Will he scale down? Because that would indeed be very bearish. Instead of DCA at any price, it's probably better for him to wait, Buy the DIP, and HODL.
legendary
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Trust me saylor loves btc so much, he will do anything to get money and buy btc, saylor's DCA is pretty good he doesn't look at the price to buy btc.

Yeah, yeah!!!  Fuckin' brilliant, yeah!!

....Don't know about people like you with just enough knowledge to sound ignorant, because if this list of Saylor's BTC purchases is correct, he is not dollar-cost-averaging anything.  Jesus, look up what that term means.

Now that I got off my new year's rant, I'd just like to add that I was shocked that he bought more--but at the same time kind of not, because that's obviously been his pattern.  And boy, he made out like a bandit in 2024 as well as putting his *former software* company's name on the lips of a lot of people. 

That said, and I know I'm going to get flamed here, he happened to make the right call on bitcoin so far.  I'm happy for his success and it's nice to have a very deep pocketed corporate bitcoin supporter who's been quite vocal....but as no one knows the future and certainly no one knew with certainty where it'd end up at the finale of 2024, he took a very risky gamble and got lucky.  But that's true for anyone who buys bitcoin at $X and sees its value increase to $X+$Y.
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Microstrategy had previously announced on Twitter that they would throw a party if the price of Bitcoin touched $100k. But we saw that bitcoin price touched $100k dollar long ago still they didn't have that party, today Michael Saylor said that since the price of Bitcoin has touched $100k, he will throw a party in his hometown (Miami ) for it. He shared the video link of the party on Twitter and invited everyone to join.  Cheesy

MicroStrategy purchased 2,138 Bitcoins yesterday, as a result their current total invested Bitcoins to 446,400. Maybe Microstrategy is preparing to throw a party to celebrate the new year.

legendary
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They have accumulated enough and they have reached a fuck you stage, so I don't think them not Accumulating much at this point in time is an issue, they are the highest Bitcoin investors with the biggest amount of Bitcoin holding, if they even decide not to accumulate anymore and just hold they will be among the greatest Holders in the world, with the level they have reached with there accumulation accumulating little by little is not a problem however they are still accumulating with a very good amount and the remain the highest holders in the world.
I think saylor and microstaretgy will not stop to add more btc to their portfolio reserves. I assume they will chase 500k btc in their portfolio, they will keep buying and at the same time the average entry will increase until it reaches $80k per average entry.

Trust me saylor loves btc so much, he will do anything to get money and buy btc, saylor's DCA is pretty good he doesn't look at the price to buy btc.
legendary
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And for context, here is the official documents from MicroStrategy,



https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltb564490bc5201f31/blt86aee42aac939a6f/6772966708d14f09dfda7bd4/form-8-k_12-30-2024.pdf

I just thought he says that we everyone should take a break in his mainstream media interview, LOL.


I'm confused or I might have misunderstood the point of your post. But what's the actual context though, and what's actually laughable?

 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Isn't MicroStrategy "up" on their "yield" collected from their Bitcoin investment by Billions in United States Dollars? Cool

Or is that document discrediting what Chad Saylor has been saying in interviews and are actually not as "up" as he would like us plebs to believe.
legendary
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And for context, here is the official documents from MicroStrategy,



https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltb564490bc5201f31/blt86aee42aac939a6f/6772966708d14f09dfda7bd4/form-8-k_12-30-2024.pdf

I just thought he says that we everyone should take a break in his mainstream media interview, LOL.
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As in the past few weeks, Microstrategy has bought Bitcoin again today, i.e. they are regularly buying Bitcoin on a weekly basis. But they have purchased much smaller amounts of Bitcoin in the last two weeks.



Last week they purchased 5,262 bitcoins. With the price of Bitcoin currently very low, everyone assumed that MicroStrategy would buy a lot more Bitcoin.But even though the price of Bitcoin is low, they are buying less Bitcoin instead of buying more.

Similarly, today they only purchased 2138 bitcoins. Will they buy less Bitcoin if the price of Bitcoin is low?


They have accumulated enough and they have reached a fuck you stage, so I don't think them not Accumulating much at this point in time is an issue, they are the highest Bitcoin investors with the biggest amount of Bitcoin holding, if they even decide not to accumulate anymore and just hold they will be among the greatest Holders in the world, with the level they have reached with there accumulation accumulating little by little is not a problem however they are still accumulating with a very good amount and the remain the highest holders in the world.
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As in the past few weeks, Microstrategy has bought Bitcoin again today, i.e. they are regularly buying Bitcoin on a weekly basis. But they have purchased much smaller amounts of Bitcoin in the last two weeks.



Last week they purchased 5,262 bitcoins. With the price of Bitcoin currently very low, everyone assumed that MicroStrategy would buy a lot more Bitcoin.But even though the price of Bitcoin is low, they are buying less Bitcoin instead of buying more.

Similarly, today they only purchased 2138 bitcoins. Will they buy less Bitcoin if the price of Bitcoin is low?
legendary
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It is clear that the speed at which MSTR can buy bitcoins has slowed due to the dip in recent weeks. If we were to see a large rise, suppose an unexpected country announces it is going to buy bitcoin for its reserves and the price rises $40K in a week, MSTR would again be able to buy several tens of thousands in a single week as it did after the US election.
legendary
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Indeed he is. I truly hope he doesn't buy more and raise his average entry price on more threatening price levels if Bitcoin crashes because of a Black Swan event.
The average entry will be higher as time goes on because when saylor gets money he will immediately buy btc at any price like he did.

Btw
See this

Source : https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1771146/000199937124015836/rex_485apos-122724.htm

Some other companies are copying mycrostrategy's steps and this has a good impact on the pioneer, right?

Saylor is at the forefront with many other companies following his footsteps in holding btc.


What kind of companies are those and how do their balance sheets look like? Cool

Because I believe Chad Saylor's move by making MicroStrategy like a sort of Bitcoin "ETF" could he considered as one of the biggest pivots in the history of business and investment. I believe that MicroStrategy was merely a mediocre analytics company that didn't have enough market value to be listed in the NASDAQ. Currently MicroStrategy and the NASDAQ are being written in the same sentence.

Those other companies are absolutely doing the "Bitcoin Pivot" to increase market value and tie the value of their companies' stocks to the value of Bitcoin - which will keep surging for many more cycles.
sr. member
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Michael Saylor's company MicroStrategy is currently buying Bitcoin Continuously, they have bought Bitcoins five times in a row in December this year by buying Bitcoins today. They have even been buying bitcoins for eight consecutive weeks. Microstrategy is going to touch another milestone in the new year, if they continue to buy bitcoins on a weekly basis like this they will soon touch the milestone of 0.5 million bitcoins. I see that MicroStrategy has purchased a smaller amount of Bitcoin today than last week.


https://x.com/saylor/status/1873716433919803868?t=TRPep2_H6Mx8HadnPa9fnA&s=19

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MicroStrategy has acquired 2,138 BTC for ~$209 million at ~$97,837 per bitcoin and has achieved BTC Yield of 47.8% QTD and 74.1% YTD. As of 12/29/2024, we hodl 446,400 $BTC acquired for ~$27.9 billion at ~$62,428 per bitcoin.
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Microstrategy has made Saylor to be one of the top bitcoin hodling companies with the total amount of 444,262 BTC in the World. And also Saylor's prediction on bitcoin.  He Said, bitcoin will soon becomes an essential commodity to all the investors.
https://t.me/Crypto_Pulse_Nigeria
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Michael Saylor wants to disconnect blue lines that means he wants to buy again and this may be a huge accumulation just as usual.

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Indeed he is. I truly hope he doesn't buy more and raise his average entry price on more threatening price levels if Bitcoin crashes because of a Black Swan event.
The average entry will be higher as time goes on because when saylor gets money he will immediately buy btc at any price like he did.

Btw
See this

Source : https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1771146/000199937124015836/rex_485apos-122724.htm

Some other companies are copying mycrostrategy's steps and this has a good impact on the pioneer, right?

Saylor is at the forefront with many other companies following his footsteps in holding btc.

That's what he want to portray, He always show that Microstrategy is not done and always accumulating so they can spread confidence for people to do the same.

If he can influence more company to invest for sure the first individual or companies will benefit on it is the first who buy a lot of Bitcoin or those old holders. That's why its good to do good decision while they are capable to buy Bitcoin and doubting will just delay them and they might regret this feeling especially if they are thinking that price is becoming more expensive when they try to enter.



I'm also curious to know about what is the opinion of people towards what Michael Saylor said towards Bitcoin.

Will quote some of the important words below and also show the source link of that article so people could read it.

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“It’s not a currency, it’s capital,” said Saylor about halfway through the episode.

“You just have to come to grips with it — it is not digital currency. It is not cryptocurrency. It is digital capital. It is crypto capital,” he added.

Source is here and read his statement https://bitcoinmagazine.com/takes/michael-saylor-doesnt-understand-bitcoin

What can you say about this guys?
legendary
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Indeed he is. I truly hope he doesn't buy more and raise his average entry price on more threatening price levels if Bitcoin crashes because of a Black Swan event.
The average entry will be higher as time goes on because when saylor gets money he will immediately buy btc at any price like he did.

Btw
See this

Source : https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1771146/000199937124015836/rex_485apos-122724.htm

Some other companies are copying mycrostrategy's steps and this has a good impact on the pioneer, right?

Saylor is at the forefront with many other companies following his footsteps in holding btc.
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Blackrock + MicroStrategy closing in on holding 1 million Bitcoin combined.


https://twitter.com/BitcoinNewsCom/status/1872676253389775035?t=YMwae4hEYm7E_PZW0XFhxg&s=19

As far as I know and based on my personal information, I can say that MicroStrategy Company will accumulate more Bitcoins, because MicroStrategy Company has already accumulated 444262 Bitcoins. Their holding will continue for a long time and in this way they will buy Bitcoins step by step, I think Saylor will buy 1 million plus Bitcoins and save them for a long time.
In this way, if they buy Bitcoins step by step, they will be able to meet their target in a short time. Saylor still has a great interest in Bitcoin folding and will have an interest in their holdings in the future. Because Bitcoin is the only main tool of MicroStrategy Company to reach the top of success.
legendary
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MicroStrategy calls shareholders meeting to fund more Bitcoin purchases

MicroStrategy submitted a proxy filing with the SEC seeking shareholder approval to boost its Bitcoin 21/21 Plan.

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Maybe if you had read just the last two posts before coming to write you would have realized that I already talked about it in the penultimate post.


What if during the next bear market, Chad Saylor will use the Bitcoin in MicroStrategy's treasury as collateral to borrow and buy another asset, like MicroStrategy stock, which could again be used as collateral to buy more Bitcoin during the next new bull market.

Nested-collateral-ception.

 Cool


Saylor will move with a stronger idea, even he was named the best investor who holds bitcoin in large amounts. I think he makes money easily, but he is too selfish in buying btc.

There are only a few days left before the end of this year, I think saylor will buy bitcoin again in a retreat into the new year.

The next bullish is a good moment for saylor to add btc to his portfolio.


Indeed he is. I truly hope he doesn't buy more and raise his average entry price on more threatening price levels if Bitcoin crashes because of a Black Swan event.

What if during the next bear market, Chad Saylor will use the Bitcoin in MicroStrategy's treasury as collateral to borrow and buy another asset, like MicroStrategy stock, which could again be used as collateral to buy more Bitcoin during the next new bull market.

Nested-collateral-ception.

 Cool

I think that would be mathematically interesting if the NAV premium dropped below 1 but I highly doubt it will happen because he can print as much stock as he wants for free (well, now with permission of the shareholders vote) and I think he can just skip that step.


If there's demand for MSTR, then he can print, but if there's no more demand, he can create his own demand by using Bitcoin as collateral to buy MSTR, assuming that Bitcoin's next bear market low is higher than the bull market high.
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Hahaha. You are absolutely right Sir, I think the days that have passed have been very favorable for the Mycrostartegy company because they first changed the direction of the company to become a Bitcoin holder.

What happens if they log in late, they won't have time to play unless they are busy with collecting Bitcoin every day.

My assumption is that they are much stronger than people say, Because the Myrostrategy company is the first company that to follow up by purchasing as much BTC as possible with the budget they have.
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