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legendary
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December 18, 2018, 03:26:39 PM
Did you think that maybe people have an ugly feeling that they are scammed from the MNX team?
He promises many things in this project, but very few of them was realized.
what do you think about investors? He invested his money and now they have only dust from there? Devs just saying soon, soon for a year.



Your views are shared by many people. There are many red flags about this Minex project but I am giving them the benefit of the doubt for a few weeks at least just to see what they accomplish.

They claim they are very close to releasing Minexpay branded crypto Mastercards so let us wait and see what happens.

Can you give me some link where Minex claims issuing branded payment cards?

 I know that before issuing branded payment cards they would need a contract about it with some card issuer.They have none till now.

They are probably trying to push ukranian Privat Bank cards as their owns which is illegal,plus it is impossible for non-ukrainian resident to get it without having residence and contact number in Ukraine and also personal presence in bank for signing a contract about account opening.


You may have a point there. All the publicity was surrounding Minexpay and their branded card but you could be on to something because I found no link about branded test cards.

At this moment they have tested some "test" cards for ATM withdrawals and over-the-counter transactions which are without doubt FIAT to FIAT.

I mentioned before things would be better if a Minex representative would address these concerns. I still have a couple of fools on IGNORE because they are posting the same lies here again and again such as paid trolls jedgar and yurez83, it is better to IGNORE anything that they post.

I found that I can engage with Racquemis1 and Temhuk which makes interesting reading but they are not official representatives. All these concerns can be cleared up if the official Minex user account starts posting.
member
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December 18, 2018, 02:45:18 PM
Did you think that maybe people have an ugly feeling that they are scammed from the MNX team?
He promises many things in this project, but very few of them was realized.
what do you think about investors? He invested his money and now they have only dust from there? Devs just saying soon, soon for a year.



Your views are shared by many people. There are many red flags about this Minex project but I am giving them the benefit of the doubt for a few weeks at least just to see what they accomplish.

They claim they are very close to releasing Minexpay branded crypto Mastercards so let us wait and see what happens.

Can you give me some link where Minex claims issuing branded payment cards?

 I know that before issuing branded payment cards they would need a contract about it with some card issuer.They have none till now.

They are probably trying to push ukranian Privat Bank cards as their owns which is illegal,plus it is impossible for non-ukrainian resident to get it without having residence and contact number in Ukraine and also personal presence in bank for signing a contract about account opening.

Hell. That's why you repeat the same thing all the time? Probably you either have poor information or you probably do it on purpose - promote false information. The community has repeatedly asked Boris a question about Privatbank cards. He clearly and unequivocally replied that the cards that are being sent are not Privatbank cards. Moreover, why did you decide that they are from the Ukrainian bank?

I advise you to stop falsely fantasizing and wait until the end of this year. I will personally prove to you with the example of my card that you do not correctly guess about the origin of the card.
sr. member
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December 18, 2018, 02:29:41 PM
Did you think that maybe people have an ugly feeling that they are scammed from the MNX team?
He promises many things in this project, but very few of them was realized.
what do you think about investors? He invested his money and now they have only dust from there? Devs just saying soon, soon for a year.



Your views are shared by many people. There are many red flags about this Minex project but I am giving them the benefit of the doubt for a few weeks at least just to see what they accomplish.

They claim they are very close to releasing Minexpay branded crypto Mastercards so let us wait and see what happens.

Can you give me some link where Minex claims issuing branded payment cards?

 I know that before issuing branded payment cards they would need a contract about it with some card issuer.They have none till now.

They are probably trying to push ukranian Privat Bank cards as their owns which is illegal,plus it is impossible for non-ukrainian resident to get it without having residence and contact number in Ukraine and also personal presence in bank for signing a contract about account opening.
legendary
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December 18, 2018, 10:21:23 AM
Did you think that maybe people have an ugly feeling that they are scammed from the MNX team?
He promises many things in this project, but very few of them was realized.
what do you think about investors? He invested his money and now they have only dust from there? Devs just saying soon, soon for a year.



Your views are shared by many people. There are many red flags about this Minex project but I am giving them the benefit of the doubt for a few weeks at least just to see what they accomplish.

They claim they are very close to releasing Minexpay branded crypto Mastercards so let us wait and see what happens.
member
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December 18, 2018, 10:00:22 AM
nice sale, managed to pick up some more MNX @ 0.00018 btc.
Haven't read this thread in 1-2 months.. But i see little has changed. I dont understand these people, who go on and on and about same thing. Jollygood, u have 1 point: in your opinion mnx is a scam, i get it. You should have said it once and then off you go to your next adventure.... how and why are you going on for 500 messages and more about that i dont understand. People like you are killing this forum... U're not the only one like this tho (one other ico i invested in, there was a guy screaming scam for more than 1.5 years and 1100 posts...) What is this madness are you even human beings?

Anyway, its hard to read news concerning MNX with all this white noice on this thread. Good luck on the card!


TO MNX TEAM:

Hey, if you are still looking for ways to get your card out, maybe u shld contact Prasos Oy (www.prasos.fi). Its a Finnish company, that owns and operates worlds first BTC-ATM:s, that are located in several cities over finland. They work simply, like, you pay with bitcoin, and get cash out of the machine. or you pay with cash and receive bitcoin. Maybe you should look into this possibility.

Did you think that maybe people have an ugly feeling that they are scammed from the MNX team?
He promises many things in this project, but very few of them was realized.
what do you think about investors? He invested his money and now they have only dust from there? Devs just saying soon, soon for a year.

Indeed till now all crypto card based projects are under big trouble to provide a working product. It is long time ago when they promised all people will get their cards and after this we see only delay after delay and just promises sooner this dream will become true.
The distribution of cards is already starting this week, and you are still talking about promises ..   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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December 18, 2018, 09:13:52 AM
nice sale, managed to pick up some more MNX @ 0.00018 btc.
Haven't read this thread in 1-2 months.. But i see little has changed. I dont understand these people, who go on and on and about same thing. Jollygood, u have 1 point: in your opinion mnx is a scam, i get it. You should have said it once and then off you go to your next adventure.... how and why are you going on for 500 messages and more about that i dont understand. People like you are killing this forum... U're not the only one like this tho (one other ico i invested in, there was a guy screaming scam for more than 1.5 years and 1100 posts...) What is this madness are you even human beings?

Anyway, its hard to read news concerning MNX with all this white noice on this thread. Good luck on the card!


TO MNX TEAM:

Hey, if you are still looking for ways to get your card out, maybe u shld contact Prasos Oy (www.prasos.fi). Its a Finnish company, that owns and operates worlds first BTC-ATM:s, that are located in several cities over finland. They work simply, like, you pay with bitcoin, and get cash out of the machine. or you pay with cash and receive bitcoin. Maybe you should look into this possibility.

Did you think that maybe people have an ugly feeling that they are scammed from the MNX team?
He promises many things in this project, but very few of them was realized.
what do you think about investors? He invested his money and now they have only dust from there? Devs just saying soon, soon for a year.

Indeed till now all crypto card based projects are under big trouble to provide a working product. It is long time ago when they promised all people will get their cards and after this we see only delay after delay and just promises sooner this dream will become true.
legendary
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December 18, 2018, 08:32:52 AM
nice sale, managed to pick up some more MNX @ 0.00018 btc.
Haven't read this thread in 1-2 months.. But i see little has changed. I dont understand these people, who go on and on and about same thing. Jollygood, u have 1 point: in your opinion mnx is a scam, i get it. You should have said it once and then off you go to your next adventure.... how and why are you going on for 500 messages and more about that i dont understand. People like you are killing this forum... U're not the only one like this tho (one other ico i invested in, there was a guy screaming scam for more than 1.5 years and 1100 posts...) What is this madness are you even human beings?

Anyway, its hard to read news concerning MNX with all this white noice on this thread. Good luck on the card!


TO MNX TEAM:

Hey, if you are still looking for ways to get your card out, maybe u shld contact Prasos Oy (www.prasos.fi). Its a Finnish company, that owns and operates worlds first BTC-ATM:s, that are located in several cities over finland. They work simply, like, you pay with bitcoin, and get cash out of the machine. or you pay with cash and receive bitcoin. Maybe you should look into this possibility.

Did you think that maybe people have an ugly feeling that they are scammed from the MNX team?
He promises many things in this project, but very few of them was realized.
what do you think about investors? He invested his money and now they have only dust from there? Devs just saying soon, soon for a year.
member
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December 18, 2018, 04:13:19 AM
nice sale, managed to pick up some more MNX @ 0.00018 btc.
Haven't read this thread in 1-2 months.. But i see little has changed. I dont understand these people, who go on and on and about same thing. Jollygood, u have 1 point: in your opinion mnx is a scam, i get it. You should have said it once and then off you go to your next adventure.... how and why are you going on for 500 messages and more about that i dont understand. People like you are killing this forum... U're not the only one like this tho (one other ico i invested in, there was a guy screaming scam for more than 1.5 years and 1100 posts...) What is this madness are you even human beings?

Anyway, its hard to read news concerning MNX with all this white noice on this thread. Good luck on the card!


TO MNX TEAM:

Hey, if you are still looking for ways to get your card out, maybe u shld contact Prasos Oy (www.prasos.fi). Its a Finnish company, that owns and operates worlds first BTC-ATM:s, that are located in several cities over finland. They work simply, like, you pay with bitcoin, and get cash out of the machine. or you pay with cash and receive bitcoin. Maybe you should look into this possibility.
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December 16, 2018, 12:48:40 AM
Hey Have you heard?Huh
ING bank was fined for not spotting money laundry activities in last September...
Was it not the same bank atm that was used for the test payment...??
 Roll Eyes
link https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ing-groep-settlement-money-laundering/dutch-bank-ing-fined-900-million-for-failing-to-spot-money-laundering-idUSKCN1LK0PE



ING bank issued the test cards for Minexpay? I was not aware of that or the money laundering case.

ING bank is one of the banks where Bitfinex has account.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/confirmed-bitfinex-exchange-has-account-on-dutch-ing-bank


What is the general consensus here about their connection Minex?

All I was saying that the first video of payment were used by an ING Atm machine which I assume had some connection with the minex wallet ...I dont know...I was connecting the bank money laundry news back in september with the fact that one of its atm was used for the test payment  Grin
that wallet is just a facade they put on top of a normal crypto to fiat card...lol
 Grin Cool
the whole damn thing is fucked up lol

Dude learn what a crypto card is. Every crypto card out there, tenx, mco whatever all have normal bank cards with a their brand on it.
Every single one of them will do a conversion to fiat automatically or manual. If they didn't you wouldn't be able to use any atm or pos in the world since the only thing they accept is fiat.

A true crypto mastercard or visa is a fairy tale, each card is a fiat card.

You are exactly RIGHT!!! it is a fairy tale....so the MNX LOGO will never be on a mastercard or visa...That is ALL we are trying to say since forever now...it can't be done!!!   Shocked
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December 15, 2018, 07:33:50 PM
Their will not be a card. Zero cryptos have been approved for a card and now its looking like may never happen for any cryptos for very long time. Whole market down 90% this year. Who the fuck is going to approve that???

If you are dumb enough to believe this minexcoin will be the first. You need help.

Why interest rates lowered so much so quickly? The only dam thing this coin had going. Couldn't slowly lower it?  Now I just dump all my coin. Now they are pointless to hold.

This coin had a lot of potential. No card is needed. Quit chasing that stupid dream. Cards and crypto do not mix in the first place. Crypto doesn't need cards.
If minex was just honest and open this coin would probably be doing very well. Instead they lie, taunt investors with false hope of stupid cards.
Just run minexcoin as is for now and be honest. Quit lying about gosh dam cards no one cares about anyway.
If you think that crypto don't need cards and cards are stupid. And if you think someone is lying to you so pass to the next door. Your opinions are useless and people don't respect them. Thank you and goodbye.

I did pass to the next door. Did you not see me say I dump all my coins. Because this coin is stupid. People like you that promote this garbage are destroying crypto.
Thanks  deuces minex bitches  

Anyone with half a brain cell should realize right now is the last opportunity to dump this coin. Anyone who waits will be looking at a value of less than one sat on MNX DOGE markets.

 
legendary
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December 15, 2018, 06:04:37 PM
Thunderjet, don't be such an idiot.

How would you know they not have a valid contract, right you don't. You only make conclusions based on your own flawed thinking and lack of knowledge about the subject.

work doesn't start after a contract is signed.
Signature only tells both parties worked out all the details for the card issuance. After its signed the bank can issue cards very quickly.
Remember that existing  minexpay wallet is a solution that can be basically be attached to any card from any issuer. It's not like they have to build in interface specific to the bank from stratch.

Branded or unbranded, it doesn't matter. It doesn't make the card less valid. Branding is just putting a own design on a card. It's not a requirement. Ultimately all crypto cards are normal bank cards. There is nothing invalid to it.

Iam really sorry to say these harsh words,but in this case you are making yourself complete idiot. You dont have a clue about payment card procedure at all ,but anyway you want to teach me a lesson about what? Ignorance and trolling?Minexpay wallet has nothing with card issuing.

VISA and Mastercard have quite a specific regulations and it is explicit that you cant use third party cards to issue them to your customers.It is strictly forbidden.You have to make issuing contract and after finishing necessary procedures and getting design approval and contract with card manufacturer.There is no workaround about it.It is required.

If you dont do that, your cards will be cancel so fast that you cant imagine.And not just that,they will put you on the blacklist permanently or for some period depends how deep you violated regulations. You really think that other companies who issued crypto related payment cards were stupid to follow all these regulations and spent 8-10 months to get branded card?? They didnt do it because they liked it ,but because they were aware that there is no shortcut in this process and didnt want to face perma ban from card issuers.

Minex is trying to fool people again. They have no valid cards,no contract ,no nothing. I really cant understand people who lead Minex and theirs constantly trying to achieve something through misleading and lying people.It is not just about payment card,but about everything. Failing whitelist, failing keeping price in tight range ,CSOB lies,Novarise failure....

Do something legal and valid for a change.Take your time and do it right.If you cant, than it is better to shutdown Minex and not ashame yourselves any more.


Your the idiot here, everything you think you know is from hear say.
how don't even know how their solution works and or who is issuing these cards.
Stop spreading this FUD. Facts are you don't know shit about this card program and which talks and agreements they have made.
Bank isn't just going to issue cards to a company which isn't compliant. Minexsystems isn't stupid. They very well know what they are doing.

You eith your quick judgements, safe behind your desk being ignorant. Get up from your ass and actuslly visit them. Maybe then you won't   blurt of this crap that your typing.

In telegram it waa already said that if you had card specific  problems you can contact the bank. And for minexpay related things congact minexsystems.
This means the bank is ussieing the cards directly to customers as a normal ordinary  debit card like or their normal clients.
So everybody will have a normal bank account with them. Minexpay has access to the transaction history and loads the cards by sending money to it.  Loading a debit card with cash is not forbidden you know.


Iam sorry man,but why are you so persistent to make a fool and idiot from you? You dont have any arguments to confornt me ,just some gibberish Minex propaganda.

I know exactly how payment card issuing procedure works,but you and your buddies keep fudding people in a unprecedented scale.

People from Minex keep avoiding legal procedures all the time.You cant just avoid procedures and regulation and bend it to your own will as you want.

First ,to open bank account in Ukraine,non-resident(foreigner) has to give bank his/her address in Ukraine and Ukrainian phone number.Then his/her has to signature bank account card and forms for getting bank debit or credit card.

Minex customers who are not from Ukraine cant get cards legally if they have not at least a temporary residence in Ukraine.They have to travel to Ukraine,get temporary residence permit and personally signed contract/agreement with bank.Minex cant do it remotely for them. Only way to Minex do it is to present its customers as theirs employees and give falsified proofs of residence and contact phone number.









Also Minex or anybody else cant send foreign curency to non-resident accounts,only ukranian Hryvna.










As I said Minex makes serious violations of VISA and Mastercard procedures and regulations by trying to issue bank cards as their own to its customers.It is forbidden to issue third partie cards to your own customers. You cant use/load your customer cards issued by other companies or banks.Only your own.Others crypto companies will gladly do the same if it was legal.Iam sure they would not spent 8-10 months to fullfill all these "stupid" procedures and regulations.But,Minex is smarter than all of them,it can fool  VISA and Mastercard as they want. Boris does not like following stupid procedures when he can bend it:o

Well,Minex is not smarter than other companies which followed procedures,but is far more arrogant and enough stupid to believe thay can outsmart card issuers.It will inevitable lead to cancelling these cards and freezing of funds ot its accounts. You can curse and attack me as much as you want ,but it will happen.After Wavecrest, both,VISA and Mastercard tighten regulations so much and there is no doubt Minex will be sanctioned for theirs illegal activities about card issuing.




We all know well this mentioned companies and their strict rules in order to squeeze standarts for crypto transactions. Boris was right what he shared in telegram few months ago. Whole market is down and minexcoin is not exception,unfortunately. Let's wait and see how minexcoin will perform during potential recovery phase.
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December 15, 2018, 05:36:59 PM
Iam sorry man,but why are you so persistent to make a fool and idiot from you? You dont have any arguments to confornt me ,just some gibberish Minex propaganda.

I know exactly how payment card issuing procedure works,but you and your buddies keep fudding people in a unprecedented scale.

People from Minex keep avoiding legal procedures all the time.You cant just avoid procedures and regulation and bend it to your own will as you want.

First ,to open bank account in Ukraine,non-resident(foreigner) has to give bank his/her address in Ukraine and Ukrainian phone number.Then his/her has to signature bank account card and forms for getting bank debit or credit card.

Minex customers who are not from Ukraine cant get cards legally if they have not at least a temporary residence in Ukraine.They have to travel to Ukraine,get temporary residence permit and personally signed contract/agreement with bank.Minex cant do it remotely for them. Only way to Minex do it is to present its customers as theirs employees and give falsified proofs of residence and contact phone number.







Also Minex or anybody else cant send foreign curency to non-resident accounts,only ukranian Hryvna.







As I said Minex makes serious violations of VISA and Mastercard procedures and regulations by trying to issue bank cards as their own to its customers.It is forbidden to issue third partie cards to your own customers. You cant use/load your customer cards issued by other companies or banks.Only your own.Others crypto companies will gladly do the same if it was legal.Iam sure they would not spent 8-10 months to fullfill all these "stupid" procedures and regulations.But,Minex is smarter than all of them,it can fool  VISA and Mastercard as they want. Boris does not like following stupid procedures when he can bend it:o

Well,Minex is not smarter than other companies which followed procedures,but is far more arrogant and enough stupid to believe thay can outsmart card issuers.It will inevitable lead to cancelling these cards and freezing of funds ot its accounts. You can curse and attack me as much as you want ,but it will happen.After Wavecrest, both,VISA and Mastercard tighten regulations so much and there is no doubt Minex will be sanctioned for theirs illegal activities about card issuing.


You make valid points and yet again people that are not part of the company are replying to your concerns.

I see recent development on Minexpay/Minexsystem/Minexcoin therefore I hope they have turned a corner and they are going to release cards "soon" but I have no faith in Republia whatsoever even though the teams are almost identical as far as ideology and core protagonists are concerned but Minexpay/Minexsystem/Minexcoin seems to show progress so I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for a few weeks at least. During that time I will continue to ask questions and read their replies.

There are still massive red flags surrounding Minexpay/Minexsystem/Minexcoin so it does not help when people who are not official representatives keep replying here. Yes in some instances it might make sense for them to reply to direct questions but when strong evidence or concerns are put forward (such as your post above) it must be addressed by official team members.
sr. member
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December 15, 2018, 02:37:43 PM
Thunderjet, don't be such an idiot.

How would you know they not have a valid contract, right you don't. You only make conclusions based on your own flawed thinking and lack of knowledge about the subject.

work doesn't start after a contract is signed.
Signature only tells both parties worked out all the details for the card issuance. After its signed the bank can issue cards very quickly.
Remember that existing  minexpay wallet is a solution that can be basically be attached to any card from any issuer. It's not like they have to build in interface specific to the bank from stratch.

Branded or unbranded, it doesn't matter. It doesn't make the card less valid. Branding is just putting a own design on a card. It's not a requirement. Ultimately all crypto cards are normal bank cards. There is nothing invalid to it.

Iam really sorry to say these harsh words,but in this case you are making yourself complete idiot. You dont have a clue about payment card procedure at all ,but anyway you want to teach me a lesson about what? Ignorance and trolling?Minexpay wallet has nothing with card issuing.

VISA and Mastercard have quite a specific regulations and it is explicit that you cant use third party cards to issue them to your customers.It is strictly forbidden.You have to make issuing contract and after finishing necessary procedures and getting design approval and contract with card manufacturer.There is no workaround about it.It is required.

If you dont do that, your cards will be cancel so fast that you cant imagine.And not just that,they will put you on the blacklist permanently or for some period depends how deep you violated regulations. You really think that other companies who issued crypto related payment cards were stupid to follow all these regulations and spent 8-10 months to get branded card?? They didnt do it because they liked it ,but because they were aware that there is no shortcut in this process and didnt want to face perma ban from card issuers.

Minex is trying to fool people again. They have no valid cards,no contract ,no nothing. I really cant understand people who lead Minex and theirs constantly trying to achieve something through misleading and lying people.It is not just about payment card,but about everything. Failing whitelist, failing keeping price in tight range ,CSOB lies,Novarise failure....

Do something legal and valid for a change.Take your time and do it right.If you cant, than it is better to shutdown Minex and not ashame yourselves any more.




Whatever you said just shows how outdated you are about the developments in crypto market, about VISA and MASTERCARD. And you pretend like you know it all. Lol. Please read about the 16 patents on blockchain applications and transaction sevices done by mastercard this year. VISA recently got 2 patents on blockchain payment, one includes third party payment gateway system. Also, another two undisclosed patents of VISA are filed last month. You should really keep tabs of all the news , i suggest you stick to coindesk , cointelegraph and news.bitcoin.com. These are the top 3 crypto news media officially. I wonder why people like you just make opinions out of thin air without facts and often get offended when the truth is being told, without accepting your flaw you would just keep on arguing to prove a point that you assume right with your arguments. Better check things before you speak.


Mixing blockchain patents with card issuing procedure is more than stupid. It is two completely different things.

Comparing these things you showed huge lack of knowledge,so I will not waste more of mine precious time on you.

Bye!



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December 15, 2018, 02:34:07 PM
Thunderjet, don't be such an idiot.

How would you know they not have a valid contract, right you don't. You only make conclusions based on your own flawed thinking and lack of knowledge about the subject.

work doesn't start after a contract is signed.
Signature only tells both parties worked out all the details for the card issuance. After its signed the bank can issue cards very quickly.
Remember that existing  minexpay wallet is a solution that can be basically be attached to any card from any issuer. It's not like they have to build in interface specific to the bank from stratch.

Branded or unbranded, it doesn't matter. It doesn't make the card less valid. Branding is just putting a own design on a card. It's not a requirement. Ultimately all crypto cards are normal bank cards. There is nothing invalid to it.

Iam really sorry to say these harsh words,but in this case you are making yourself complete idiot. You dont have a clue about payment card procedure at all ,but anyway you want to teach me a lesson about what? Ignorance and trolling?Minexpay wallet has nothing with card issuing.

VISA and Mastercard have quite a specific regulations and it is explicit that you cant use third party cards to issue them to your customers.It is strictly forbidden.You have to make issuing contract and after finishing necessary procedures and getting design approval and contract with card manufacturer.There is no workaround about it.It is required.

If you dont do that, your cards will be cancel so fast that you cant imagine.And not just that,they will put you on the blacklist permanently or for some period depends how deep you violated regulations. You really think that other companies who issued crypto related payment cards were stupid to follow all these regulations and spent 8-10 months to get branded card?? They didnt do it because they liked it ,but because they were aware that there is no shortcut in this process and didnt want to face perma ban from card issuers.

Minex is trying to fool people again. They have no valid cards,no contract ,no nothing. I really cant understand people who lead Minex and theirs constantly trying to achieve something through misleading and lying people.It is not just about payment card,but about everything. Failing whitelist, failing keeping price in tight range ,CSOB lies,Novarise failure....

Do something legal and valid for a change.Take your time and do it right.If you cant, than it is better to shutdown Minex and not ashame yourselves any more.


Your the idiot here, everything you think you know is from hear say.
how don't even know how their solution works and or who is issuing these cards.
Stop spreading this FUD. Facts are you don't know shit about this card program and which talks and agreements they have made.
Bank isn't just going to issue cards to a company which isn't compliant. Minexsystems isn't stupid. They very well know what they are doing.

You eith your quick judgements, safe behind your desk being ignorant. Get up from your ass and actuslly visit them. Maybe then you won't   blurt of this crap that your typing.

In telegram it waa already said that if you had card specific  problems you can contact the bank. And for minexpay related things congact minexsystems.
This means the bank is ussieing the cards directly to customers as a normal ordinary  debit card like or their normal clients.
So everybody will have a normal bank account with them. Minexpay has access to the transaction history and loads the cards by sending money to it.  Loading a debit card with cash is not forbidden you know.


Iam sorry man,but why are you so persistent to make a fool and idiot from you? You dont have any arguments to confornt me ,just some gibberish Minex propaganda.

I know exactly how payment card issuing procedure works,but you and your buddies keep fudding people in a unprecedented scale.

People from Minex keep avoiding legal procedures all the time.You cant just avoid procedures and regulation and bend it to your own will as you want.

First ,to open bank account in Ukraine,non-resident(foreigner) has to give bank his/her address in Ukraine and Ukrainian phone number.Then his/her has to signature bank account card and forms for getting bank debit or credit card.

Minex customers who are not from Ukraine cant get cards legally if they have not at least a temporary residence in Ukraine.They have to travel to Ukraine,get temporary residence permit and personally signed contract/agreement with bank.Minex cant do it remotely for them. Only way to Minex do it is to present its customers as theirs employees and give falsified proofs of residence and contact phone number.









Also Minex or anybody else cant send foreign curency to non-resident accounts,only ukranian Hryvna.










As I said Minex makes serious violations of VISA and Mastercard procedures and regulations by trying to issue bank cards as their own to its customers.It is forbidden to issue third partie cards to your own customers. You cant use/load your customer cards issued by other companies or banks.Only your own.Others crypto companies will gladly do the same if it was legal.Iam sure they would not spent 8-10 months to fullfill all these "stupid" procedures and regulations.But,Minex is smarter than all of them,it can fool  VISA and Mastercard as they want. Boris does not like following stupid procedures when he can bend it:o

Well,Minex is not smarter than other companies which followed procedures,but is far more arrogant and enough stupid to believe thay can outsmart card issuers.It will inevitable lead to cancelling these cards and freezing of funds ot its accounts. You can curse and attack me as much as you want ,but it will happen.After Wavecrest, both,VISA and Mastercard tighten regulations so much and there is no doubt Minex will be sanctioned for theirs illegal activities about card issuing.


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December 15, 2018, 12:13:26 PM
Thunderjet, don't be such an idiot.

How would you know they not have a valid contract, right you don't. You only make conclusions based on your own flawed thinking and lack of knowledge about the subject.

work doesn't start after a contract is signed.
Signature only tells both parties worked out all the details for the card issuance. After its signed the bank can issue cards very quickly.
Remember that existing  minexpay wallet is a solution that can be basically be attached to any card from any issuer. It's not like they have to build in interface specific to the bank from stratch.

Branded or unbranded, it doesn't matter. It doesn't make the card less valid. Branding is just putting a own design on a card. It's not a requirement. Ultimately all crypto cards are normal bank cards. There is nothing invalid to it.

Iam really sorry to say these harsh words,but in this case you are making yourself complete idiot. You dont have a clue about payment card procedure at all ,but anyway you want to teach me a lesson about what? Ignorance and trolling?Minexpay wallet has nothing with card issuing.

VISA and Mastercard have quite a specific regulations and it is explicit that you cant use third party cards to issue them to your customers.It is strictly forbidden.You have to make issuing contract and after finishing necessary procedures and getting design approval and contract with card manufacturer.There is no workaround about it.It is required.

If you dont do that, your cards will be cancel so fast that you cant imagine.And not just that,they will put you on the blacklist permanently or for some period depends how deep you violated regulations. You really think that other companies who issued crypto related payment cards were stupid to follow all these regulations and spent 8-10 months to get branded card?? They didnt do it because they liked it ,but because they were aware that there is no shortcut in this process and didnt want to face perma ban from card issuers.

Minex is trying to fool people again. They have no valid cards,no contract ,no nothing. I really cant understand people who lead Minex and theirs constantly trying to achieve something through misleading and lying people.It is not just about payment card,but about everything. Failing whitelist, failing keeping price in tight range ,CSOB lies,Novarise failure....

Do something legal and valid for a change.Take your time and do it right.If you cant, than it is better to shutdown Minex and not ashame yourselves any more.




Whatever you said just shows how outdated you are about the developments in crypto market, about VISA and MASTERCARD. And you pretend like you know it all. Lol. Please read about the 16 patents on blockchain applications and transaction sevices done by mastercard this year. VISA recently got 2 patents on blockchain payment, one includes third party payment gateway system. Also, another two undisclosed patents of VISA are filed last month. You should really keep tabs of all the news , i suggest you stick to coindesk , cointelegraph and news.bitcoin.com. These are the top 3 crypto news media officially. I wonder why people like you just make opinions out of thin air without facts and often get offended when the truth is being told, without accepting your flaw you would just keep on arguing to prove a point that you assume right with your arguments. Better check things before you speak.
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December 15, 2018, 05:04:58 AM
How Minex can deliver card without making issuing contract first ?? It is not possible or legal.

These cards are not branded, valid Minex card,but ordinary bank company card which Minex is desperately pushing forward as a legal,valid one. They did not learn absolutely nothing from previous cases.

Why Minex is constantly using misleadings,disinformations,half-truths and lies to make false impression about payment card situation?

Only after immense pressure and presentation of irrefutable evidences they are starting to say some truth.The moment pressure subside,here we go again,invalid test cards become valid branded cards by pure magic.

Like people who lead Minex really wants to push theirs reputation to absolute zero or they really dont care about it at all.Stop manipulate people,stop lying. When you make valid payment card issuing contract,make announcement.Then finish all needed regulations and when first batch of branded,valid cards come ,make some pictures to prove it,test your software,etc.

People should be extremely cautious,because VISA or Mastercard can block such invalid cards any time due to serious violations of regulations and freeze funds on theirs card accounts.

I agree with you because it seems they are still overplaying their hand. Using test cards give no guarantee of actually getting a contract in place and a bunch of cards printed ready to use.

The bank would require liquid capital to cover fees to create cards and the finances of Minexsystem are not exactly looking great. Maybe things will become clearer in the coming days because I would like to know how they will fund their card issuer fees.

About software and things like that it is not a difficult issue to get around because there are ready made all-in-one packages available which cover billing, fees and everything. They can be selected when you sign a deal with a Visa/Mastercard program manager but that has to link with their crypto-FIAT software conversion and that is probably going to require a FIAT buffer which needs to be in place before the cards get sent out if a eal is in place therefore more expense.
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December 15, 2018, 04:46:58 AM
Thunderjet, don't be such an idiot.

How would you know they not have a valid contract, right you don't. You only make conclusions based on your own flawed thinking and lack of knowledge about the subject.

work doesn't start after a contract is signed.
Signature only tells both parties worked out all the details for the card issuance. After its signed the bank can issue cards very quickly.
Remember that existing  minexpay wallet is a solution that can be basically be attached to any card from any issuer. It's not like they have to build in interface specific to the bank from stratch.

Branded or unbranded, it doesn't matter. It doesn't make the card less valid. Branding is just putting a own design on a card. It's not a requirement. Ultimately all crypto cards are normal bank cards. There is nothing invalid to it.

Iam really sorry to say these harsh words,but in this case you are making yourself complete idiot. You dont have a clue about payment card procedure at all ,but anyway you want to teach me a lesson about what? Ignorance and trolling?Minexpay wallet has nothing with card issuing.

VISA and Mastercard have quite a specific regulations and it is explicit that you cant use third party cards to issue them to your customers.It is strictly forbidden.You have to make issuing contract and after finishing necessary procedures and getting design approval and contract with card manufacturer.There is no workaround about it.It is required.

If you dont do that, your cards will be cancel so fast that you cant imagine.And not just that,they will put you on the blacklist permanently or for some period depends how deep you violated regulations. You really think that other companies who issued crypto related payment cards were stupid to follow all these regulations and spent 8-10 months to get branded card?? They didnt do it because they liked it ,but because they were aware that there is no shortcut in this process and didnt want to face perma ban from card issuers.

Minex is trying to fool people again. They have no valid cards,no contract ,no nothing. I really cant understand people who lead Minex and theirs constantly trying to achieve something through misleading and lying people.It is not just about payment card,but about everything. Failing whitelist, failing keeping price in tight range ,CSOB lies,Novarise failure....

Do something legal and valid for a change.Take your time and do it right.If you cant, than it is better to shutdown Minex and not ashame yourselves any more.


Your the idiot here, everything you think you know is from hear say.
how don't even know how their solution works and or who is issuing these cards.
Stop spreading this FUD. Facts are you don't know shit about this card program and which talks and agreements they have made.
Bank isn't just going to issue cards to a company which isn't compliant. Minexsystems isn't stupid. They very well know what they are doing.

You eith your quick judgements, safe behind your desk being ignorant. Get up from your ass and actuslly visit them. Maybe then you won't   blurt of this crap that your typing.

In telegram it waa already said that if you had card specific  problems you can contact the bank. And for minexpay related things congact minexsystems.
This means the bank is ussieing the cards directly to customers as a normal ordinary  debit card like or their normal clients.
So everybody will have a normal bank account with them. Minexpay has access to the transaction history and loads the cards by sending money to it.  Loading a debit card with cash is not forbidden you know.
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December 15, 2018, 03:53:06 AM
Just got spam mail from MNX to my mailbox... unbelievable, that this scam is still running  Shocked  

Quote
Greetings, it's MinexPay team.
We are preparing to send the first MinexPay cards.
Recently you've complete KYC checks. But the documents for address verification in your account are not valid.
For this reason we kindly ask you to send to us a high-res picture of one of the documents (updated) from the list for your address verification.

Documents list:
- Bank statement with the address and name
- Utility bills with the address and nameDocuments list:
- Payment for the phone with the address and name
- Payment for the Internet with the address and name

Simply answer to this letter and attach the required documents.
 
Best regards, MinexSystems
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December 15, 2018, 03:31:25 AM
Thunderjet, don't be such an idiot.

How would you know they not have a valid contract, right you don't. You only make conclusions based on your own flawed thinking and lack of knowledge about the subject.

work doesn't start after a contract is signed.
Signature only tells both parties worked out all the details for the card issuance. After its signed the bank can issue cards very quickly.
Remember that existing  minexpay wallet is a solution that can be basically be attached to any card from any issuer. It's not like they have to build in interface specific to the bank from stratch.

Branded or unbranded, it doesn't matter. It doesn't make the card less valid. Branding is just putting a own design on a card. It's not a requirement. Ultimately all crypto cards are normal bank cards. There is nothing invalid to it.

Iam really sorry to say these harsh words,but in this case you are making yourself complete idiot. You dont have a clue about payment card procedure at all ,but anyway you want to teach me a lesson about what? Ignorance and trolling?Minexpay wallet has nothing with card issuing.

VISA and Mastercard have quite a specific regulations and it is explicit that you cant use third party cards to issue them to your customers.It is strictly forbidden.You have to make issuing contract and after finishing necessary procedures and getting design approval and contract with card manufacturer.There is no workaround about it.It is required.

If you dont do that, your cards will be cancel so fast that you cant imagine.And not just that,they will put you on the blacklist permanently or for some period depends how deep you violated regulations. You really think that other companies who issued crypto related payment cards were stupid to follow all these regulations and spent 8-10 months to get branded card?? They didnt do it because they liked it ,but because they were aware that there is no shortcut in this process and didnt want to face perma ban from card issuers.

Minex is trying to fool people again. They have no valid cards,no contract ,no nothing. I really cant understand people who lead Minex and theirs constantly trying to achieve something through misleading and lying people.It is not just about payment card,but about everything. Failing whitelist, failing keeping price in tight range ,CSOB lies,Novarise failure....

Do something legal and valid for a change.Take your time and do it right.If you cant, than it is better to shutdown Minex and not ashame yourselves any more.



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December 15, 2018, 03:26:13 AM
Their will not be a card. Zero cryptos have been approved for a card and now its looking like may never happen for any cryptos for very long time. Whole market down 90% this year. Who the fuck is going to approve that???

If you are dumb enough to believe this minexcoin will be the first. You need help.

Why interest rates lowered so much so quickly? The only dam thing this coin had going. Couldn't slowly lower it?  Now I just dump all my coin. Now they are pointless to hold.

This coin had a lot of potential. No card is needed. Quit chasing that stupid dream. Cards and crypto do not mix in the first place. Crypto doesn't need cards.
If minex was just honest and open this coin would probably be doing very well. Instead they lie, taunt investors with false hope of stupid cards.
Just run minexcoin as is for now and be honest. Quit lying about gosh dam cards no one cares about anyway.
If you think that crypto don't need cards and cards are stupid. And if you think someone is lying to you so pass to the next door. Your opinions are useless and people don't respect them. Thank you and goodbye.
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