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legendary
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December 13, 2018, 03:04:17 PM
Hey Have you heard?Huh
ING bank was fined for not spotting money laundry activities in last September...
Was it not the same bank atm that was used for the test payment...??
 Roll Eyes
link https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ing-groep-settlement-money-laundering/dutch-bank-ing-fined-900-million-for-failing-to-spot-money-laundering-idUSKCN1LK0PE



ING bank issued the test cards for Minexpay? I was not aware of that or the money laundering case.
sr. member
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December 13, 2018, 01:56:42 PM

When they will release the card is still a big unknown. They are saying right now the card is in the testing phase but when it will end we don't know.

I would say very very soon considering it was announced yesterday that first batch of customer info was send to the bank for card issueing and that today, just now, people are being asked to supply them with their shipping address.
Just supplied mine  Smiley

sometimes is much better do not say anything. "very very soon", "soon"
is anybody else tired of "very-soon-minexcoin-something-soon-very"?
Apparently, apart from you, no one is tired anymore.  Cheesy Cheesy

I am sure that I will receive a card before the New Year. And I do not care who thinks what ..

It is not possible to receive this card before end of current year and there is very smart chance to get a working card even in next year too as they promised on the time of ICO. There is still big confusing about the future of this project.
I can't understand what are you talking about. People today was asked about delivery addresses for first batch of cards.
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December 13, 2018, 01:42:53 PM

When they will release the card is still a big unknown. They are saying right now the card is in the testing phase but when it will end we don't know.

I would say very very soon considering it was announced yesterday that first batch of customer info was send to the bank for card issueing and that today, just now, people are being asked to supply them with their shipping address.
Just supplied mine  Smiley

sometimes is much better do not say anything. "very very soon", "soon"
is anybody else tired of "very-soon-minexcoin-something-soon-very"?
Apparently, apart from you, no one is tired anymore.  Cheesy Cheesy

I am sure that I will receive a card before the New Year. And I do not care who thinks what ..

It is not possible to receive this card before end of current year and there is very smart chance to get a working card even in next year too as they promised on the time of ICO. There is still big confusing about the future of this project.
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December 13, 2018, 01:32:44 PM

When they will release the card is still a big unknown. They are saying right now the card is in the testing phase but when it will end we don't know.

I would say very very soon considering it was announced yesterday that first batch of customer info was send to the bank for card issueing and that today, just now, people are being asked to supply them with their shipping address.
Just supplied mine  Smiley

sometimes is much better do not say anything. "very very soon", "soon"
is anybody else tired of "very-soon-minexcoin-something-soon-very"?
Apparently, apart from you, no one is tired anymore.  Cheesy Cheesy

I am sure that I will receive a card before the New Year. And I do not care who thinks what ..
legendary
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December 13, 2018, 11:09:59 AM

When they will release the card is still a big unknown. They are saying right now the card is in the testing phase but when it will end we don't know.

I would say very very soon considering it was announced yesterday that first batch of customer info was send to the bank for card issueing and that today, just now, people are being asked to supply them with their shipping address.
Just supplied mine  Smiley

sometimes is much better do not say anything. "very very soon", "soon"
is anybody else tired of "very-soon-minexcoin-something-soon-very"?
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December 13, 2018, 11:03:09 AM

When they will release the card is still a big unknown. They are saying right now the card is in the testing phase but when it will end we don't know.

I would say very very soon considering it was announced yesterday that first batch of customer info was send to the bank for card issueing and that today, just now, people are being asked to supply them with their shipping address.
Just supplied mine  Smiley
legendary
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December 13, 2018, 06:01:59 AM
Get your head straight. Any crypto card will in essence always be a regular bank card since the banking world still works in fiat. There will alsways be a conversion, whether automatic or manual to fiat, to load to the cards with funds you can spend.


You repeated and confirmed exactly what I wrote.

Therefore if everything was working or was on the verge of working why all the delay?

Why did Borys go with the card partner he is with now and why did he not use them earlier instead giving us lies about Novarise and CSOB?

Maybe because novarise just came along their path and those negotiations were already more advanced then with the other issuer, so they parked them until they needed them again. Easy explanations. You can negotiate with multiple partners you know.
Its like shopping online, you pick from various options the company who can deliver the fastest, and when it turns out they cant deliver on time you pick another company.


You are trying to oversimplify things. This was no small shopping online task, this was millions of US$ worth of a company that messed up.

Regardless, Borys should never have announced it and Temhuk should never have posted here about it until things were concrete. The fact all that happens without Borys even checking backgrounds on Novarise shows high levels of incompetence.

Now we wait to see what the future holds for this project.

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December 13, 2018, 01:12:48 AM
becouse minexsystems failed to deliver the cards within the date they announced to users before the sale of the cards...they should pay a penalty....
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy You are not 12 years old boy to make that requests )))

So if you demand to get product that you paid in advance, on time, you are a 12 year old child? It would be better that you don't defend mnx that much, you bury them too deep!
Correct, but there is NO dates when cards should be delivered. So your on time don't mean anything because date of delivery is non set, because project is in developing stage.

There were dates on roadmap! OMG man you are really annoying me, and Im trying to stay objective here!

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and still is on minexcoin website q2-2018!

We would be lucky enough if they succesfully release cards by Q2 of 2019. Hopefully, they don't hire a firm like novarise again lol

Wow, they drag the thing to Q2 2109 again, if they don't have any intention to distribute the cards why company is giving false information to the community. If card system is not possible why don't you mention those things here?

When they will release the card is still a big unknown. They are saying right now the card is in the testing phase but when it will end we don't know.
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December 13, 2018, 12:09:42 AM
becouse minexsystems failed to deliver the cards within the date they announced to users before the sale of the cards...they should pay a penalty....
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy You are not 12 years old boy to make that requests )))

So if you demand to get product that you paid in advance, on time, you are a 12 year old child? It would be better that you don't defend mnx that much, you bury them too deep!
Correct, but there is NO dates when cards should be delivered. So your on time don't mean anything because date of delivery is non set, because project is in developing stage.

There were dates on roadmap! OMG man you are really annoying me, and Im trying to stay objective here!

edit:
and still is on minexcoin website q2-2018!

We would be lucky enough if they succesfully release cards by Q2 of 2019. Hopefully, they don't hire a firm like novarise again lol

Wow, they drag the thing to Q2 2109 again, if they don't have any intention to distribute the cards why company is giving false information to the community. If card system is not possible why don't you mention those things here?
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December 12, 2018, 11:12:20 PM
Owner of Novarise Secrecy is a proved scammer.He was sentenced to 5 years due to theft of 116463 British pounds and forgery and on Malta he was prosecuted due to fraud too. Just with a little investigation,which Minex didnt do,you could find it too. Also he was member of Weigrate ICO,which became one of largest ICO scams,where his role was same - to provide payment cards.He was running more than 20 quick-rich sites on same IP as Novarise Secrecy site.It is good if you were able to take refund from him,but that does not releave you from responsibility of unchecking him properly.Minex people had impression that he knows how payment card program works,but it was result due to lacking of theirs knowledge about the process itself - so at the end it is incompetence.

Without doubt incompetence is the appropriate word for the mismanagement overseen by Borys

Hey Have you heard?Huh
ING bank was fined for not spotting money laundry activities in last September...
Was it not the same bank atm that was used for the test payment...??
 Roll Eyes
link https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ing-groep-settlement-money-laundering/dutch-bank-ing-fined-900-million-for-failing-to-spot-money-laundering-idUSKCN1LK0PE
legendary
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December 12, 2018, 04:07:23 PM
Owner of Novarise Secrecy is a proved scammer.He was sentenced to 5 years due to theft of 116463 British pounds and forgery and on Malta he was prosecuted due to fraud too. Just with a little investigation,which Minex didnt do,you could find it too. Also he was member of Weigrate ICO,which became one of largest ICO scams,where his role was same - to provide payment cards.He was running more than 20 quick-rich sites on same IP as Novarise Secrecy site.It is good if you were able to take refund from him,but that does not releave you from responsibility of unchecking him properly.Minex people had impression that he knows how payment card program works,but it was result due to lacking of theirs knowledge about the process itself - so at the end it is incompetence.

Without doubt incompetence is the appropriate word for the mismanagement overseen by Borys
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December 12, 2018, 03:04:01 PM

Making a deal with Novarise Secrecy was a clear sign on high level on incompetence inside Minex.They didnt bother to check who is that guy when even a look on his FB and Twitter pages was enough to see that he is one of quick-rich scheme scammer.

Totally wrong. This was already explained in telegram.
Novarise didn't scam anyone. Minexsystems got a full refund on the money paid in the deal.
Novarise may have looked sketchy, but the guy had in depth knowledge of running a card program. Also minexsystems did check him out
Notarized proof of identity, notarized proof of address/residency. The issue was not with novarise but with the partners novarise was working with.  When it turned out those partners could not answer some of novarise questions and deliver on time minexsystems decided to end the contract which they could since the contract terms were violated.


Owner of Novarise Secrecy is a proved scammer.He was sentenced to 5 years due to theft of 116463 British pounds and forgery and on Malta he was prosecuted due to fraud too. Just with a little investigation,which Minex didnt do,you could find it too. Also he was member of Weigrate ICO,which became one of largest ICO scams,where his role was same - to provide payment cards.He was running more than 20 quick-rich sites on same IP as Novarise Secrecy site.It is good if you were able to take refund from him,but that does not releave you from responsibility of unchecking him properly.Minex people had impression that he knows how payment card program works,but it was result due to lacking of theirs knowledge about the process itself - so at the end it is incompetence.
legendary
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December 12, 2018, 08:40:04 AM
You repeated and confirmed exactly what I wrote.

Therefore if everything was working or was on the verge of working why all the delay?

Why did Borys go with the card partner he is with now and why did he not use them earlier instead giving us lies about Novarise and CSOB?
It's simple. When Minexcoin got contract with Novarise about cards they named name of partner(Novarise) But that partner failed to provide card services and contract was terminated. All misunderstandings with CSOB was sorted and now that's in the past. That's no lies, it's normal situation in business. If you going to the phone service and they promising to repair your phone in 2 days but can't do that because delivery service failed to deliver new screen do you starting to run around and scream about scam and lies, or you simply wait while they got new screen?

Sorry that is not a good analogy, the phone screen replacement is not comparable to a massive announcement about securing banking or card partnerships.

I call it gross mismanagement at the very least and outright lies at most.
Ok. But what if you are owner of that phone service, but delivery company or factory failed to provide screens for your company? Correct, you will ask customers to wait and you will start to look for another business partners. Same is here. That's common thing in business world.

I agree with you on that but I cannot agree with is the incompetence on part of either Borys alone or his team by allowing a scam outfit such as Novarise to be part of this. As thunderjet stated in an earlier post the fact Novarise was allowed to be mentioned and trusted without Borys or his team running appropriate checks was a massive failure.

As for CSOB it seems they backed off taking legal action against Minexsystem because Borys claimed Chain2Pay told Minexsystem a deal was in place. And then said Chain2Pay made a mistake but all the while Chain2Pay is Borys II and Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin is Borys I

Even now there is still scope for people to believe the project but there has to be complete transparency and complete honesty.
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December 12, 2018, 07:49:13 AM
You repeated and confirmed exactly what I wrote.

Therefore if everything was working or was on the verge of working why all the delay?

Why did Borys go with the card partner he is with now and why did he not use them earlier instead giving us lies about Novarise and CSOB?
It's simple. When Minexcoin got contract with Novarise about cards they named name of partner(Novarise) But that partner failed to provide card services and contract was terminated. All misunderstandings with CSOB was sorted and now that's in the past. That's no lies, it's normal situation in business. If you going to the phone service and they promising to repair your phone in 2 days but can't do that because delivery service failed to deliver new screen do you starting to run around and scream about scam and lies, or you simply wait while they got new screen?

Sorry that is not a good analogy, the phone screen replacement is not comparable to a massive announcement about securing banking or card partnerships.

I call it gross mismanagement at the very least and outright lies at most.
Ok. But what if you are owner of that phone service, but delivery company or factory failed to provide screens for your company? Correct, you will ask customers to wait and you will start to look for another business partners. Same is here. That's common thing in business world.
legendary
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December 12, 2018, 05:53:37 AM
You repeated and confirmed exactly what I wrote.

Therefore if everything was working or was on the verge of working why all the delay?

Why did Borys go with the card partner he is with now and why did he not use them earlier instead giving us lies about Novarise and CSOB?
It's simple. When Minexcoin got contract with Novarise about cards they named name of partner(Novarise) But that partner failed to provide card services and contract was terminated. All misunderstandings with CSOB was sorted and now that's in the past. That's no lies, it's normal situation in business. If you going to the phone service and they promising to repair your phone in 2 days but can't do that because delivery service failed to deliver new screen do you starting to run around and scream about scam and lies, or you simply wait while they got new screen?

Sorry that is not a good analogy, the phone screen replacement is not comparable to a massive announcement about securing banking or card partnerships.

I call it gross mismanagement at the very least and outright lies at most.
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December 12, 2018, 01:56:54 AM

Making a deal with Novarise Secrecy was a clear sign on high level on incompetence inside Minex.They didnt bother to check who is that guy when even a look on his FB and Twitter pages was enough to see that he is one of quick-rich scheme scammer.

Totally wrong. This was already explained in telegram.
Novarise didn't scam anyone. Minexsystems got a full refund on the money paid in the deal.
Novarise may have looked sketchy, but the guy had in depth knowledge of running a card program. Also minexsystems did check him out
Notarized proof of identity, notarized proof of address/residency. The issue was not with novarise but with the partners novarise was working with.  When it turned out those partners could not answer some of novarise questions and deliver on time minexsystems decided to end the contract which they could since the contract terms were violated.
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December 12, 2018, 12:57:49 AM
becouse minexsystems failed to deliver the cards within the date they announced to users before the sale of the cards...they should pay a penalty....
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy You are not 12 years old boy to make that requests )))

So if you demand to get product that you paid in advance, on time, you are a 12 year old child? It would be better that you don't defend mnx that much, you bury them too deep!
Correct, but there is NO dates when cards should be delivered. So your on time don't mean anything because date of delivery is non set, because project is in developing stage.

There were dates on roadmap! OMG man you are really annoying me, and Im trying to stay objective here!

edit:
and still is on minexcoin website q2-2018!

We would be lucky enough if they succesfully release cards by Q2 of 2019. Hopefully, they don't hire a firm like novarise again lol
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December 11, 2018, 08:39:11 PM
Making a deal with Novarise Secrecy was a clear sign on high level on incompetence inside Minex.They didnt bother to check who is that guy when even a look on his FB and Twitter pages was enough to see that he is one of quick-rich scheme scammer.


But there are much more serious issues which cant be named as incompetence:

- false statement made in pre-ICO phase about making a deal with prominent european bank to buy share in Minex for 1705.44 BTC through buying 1.095 millions of MNX. Prominent european bank paid for a share in Minex in BTCs + in that time(late 2016),Minex wasnt existed( it was founded 22.Aug.2017)??  Big bank paid anonymous ICO in BTCs and despite Minex wasnt registred as a company. That was big,fat lie ,because Minex had to return money to investors in case that pre-ICO selling was unsuccessfull.This way,they avoided it.Should be noted that announcement of that deal was made by Boris son himself who are now trying to launch another ICO,Republia.

- launching Minex with 70% parking rate was a clear sign that whole project was made more as a short-lived fradulent HYIP scheme than stable long-term project. Build-in hyperinflation is never sign of project longevity.

- Minex was collected more than enough money to realize complete whitelist. They realized almost nothing,so question is where is the money,if Minex wasnt spent in on project? If someone in business took money to make something and he didnt deliver it ,he has to pays compensations or go to prison for fraud.

- making only InstaBuy and not InstaSell , as a complete tool for price regulation via OTC buy/sell option is not due to incompetence.Everybody knows that if you make only option for selling of coins , it will inevitably lead to continuous price decline.You can make such system only if your real intention is to make money by selling premined coins to naive people who believe in project, all along to the bitter end

- CSOB agreement false announcement wasnt misunderstanding.You can named it as misunderstanding if Minex had some business agreement with CSOB ,but misinterpreted it somehow.

- cant be just incompetence advertising payment card program and collecting money for cards in advance for months,despite Minex has never had any agreement for issuing branded payment cards. Minex was aware of not having issuing contract,but it kept advertising payment cards with all theirs features.They were aware that it will mislead people to believe that it is just one small step from card delivering,because nobody cant give card features without having issuing contract first.

What an excellent post. Thank you,

You lay out the case against Minexsystem and their full incompetence in the whole process since the ICO until now.

Even a genuine apology would have gone a long way after they were exposed as being liars but all they gave was a half-hearted "sorry" and put all the blame on CSOB as a misunderstanding and then put the rest of the blame on Novarise. That was a ridiculous thing to do when clearly Borys and his team were incompetent.

You are right they should have made announcements AFTER they had card contracts in place and they keep saying they "thought" they had card contracts in place. That is not how to run a business.
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December 11, 2018, 07:02:36 PM
becouse minexsystems failed to deliver the cards within the date they announced to users before the sale of the cards...they should pay a penalty....
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy You are not 12 years old boy to make that requests )))

So if you demand to get product that you paid in advance, on time, you are a 12 year old child? It would be better that you don't defend mnx that much, you bury them too deep!
Correct, but there is NO dates when cards should be delivered. So your on time don't mean anything because date of delivery is non set, because project is in developing stage.

There were dates on roadmap! OMG man you are really annoying me, and Im trying to stay objective here!

edit:
and still is on minexcoin website q2-2018!
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December 11, 2018, 06:59:44 PM
becouse minexsystems failed to deliver the cards within the date they announced to users before the sale of the cards...they should pay a penalty....
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy You are not 12 years old boy to make that requests )))

So if you demand to get product that you paid in advance, on time, you are a 12 year old child? It would be better that you don't defend mnx that much, you bury them too deep!
Correct, but there is NO dates when cards should be delivered. So your on time don't mean anything because date of delivery is non set, because project is in developing stage.
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