Topic: Mining VS Rendering - page 8. (Read 6905 times)

I think there will be restrictions as it's the beta version and there gonna be many bugs that are yet to be discovered. Upon checking their roadmap i found that they have delivered the Beta version One Month in advance than was mentioned. I don't think they will allow mining currently or else peoples will jump for the free service haha.

Thank you for the interest to the project

We use our own software for GPU virtualization. Not all render engines work well with virtual GPU, moreover, license could not allow to do this. Our solution is to split and distribute only in local network single rendering task among hundreds of GPU.



Our software allows to run other tasks, while miner is not rendering. Mining is great example of such a task, it can be closed and restarted at any time. So miners can't earn less with Leonardo, they can only increase their income due to higher rendering profitability vs mining.

Best,
LT

Thank you for the comment!

We are not sure where this $11K comes from but thisd is the answer:

Agree. The AAA animation studios require a lot of memory for their renderings, so far they use CPU rendering on own render farms but revolution is comming with hardware like 24GB or even 32GB on GPU card. The best example is new RenderMan V22 with hybrid engine and ability to offload the hard tasks to GPU. Pixar is looking into the future, toward GPU. GPU rendering is already a large market and it's share will only grow in the future.

Best,
LT

Yes, that's the point mate! If we had to go out, purchase a brand new GPU and then start rendering, waiting for long hours for a single frame to render then there won't be no necessity for LEOS. We can use their GPU's to do the rendering part relaxing back at home. The more GPU’s selected, the faster the render will complete.

I have the same expectation from this project. I don't know about large productions where rendering is quite in a high level but average/medium users will find it really useful. Many among us work on small projects/industry where purchasing a system to afford fast rendering isn't possible, I hope LEOS will solve this problem. Now it's only the charge they gonna come up with per hour or GPU based.

If the hardcap reaches $ 18 million the sale of the tokens will end prematurely. If Leonard does not receive a minimum of $ 4 million during the sale, the funds will be returned to their depositors. We'll see what happens from this.

Basically none right now! They are just another ICO trying to grab money. Unless they manage to land every single AAA animation studio out there to use their "Revolutionary" app for rendering. Most of the GPUs listed on the software will be sitting idle. Plus it doesn't make any sense to me why Any AAA Animation studio would use them in the first place. If they are going to pay $11,000 for an hour of rendering. Imagine the Scene of "Frozen (Castle Scene) " which took 72 hours to render will cost them $792,000. Also, keep in mind There are some effects which only CPUs can compute. So this "rendering" will be only effective for scenes which take advantage of GPUs mostly.

Plus they have failed to respond to my previous question, which makes me believe they are here to just grab the money.

If I understand correctly in simple words rendering is the process of creating photorealistic images from 2D or 3D models. Today rendering is used in animation, film production, construction and architecture, surgery and dentistry, etc. But is it really so far, if it is so in demand, that there are no worthy companies rendering rendering? What is the advantage of Leonardo?

I got acquainted with the percent distribution of tokens. But I would like to see a well-written, detailed budget for roadmap implementation.
Does it Leonardo has?

Would be great if someone can provide the link to the rendering software.

Thank you for asking. Yes, you are right, to realize this task you will need considerable resources. Thanks to a partnership with Giga Watt, the work will be done with 23,000 graphics processors around the clock. This is the largest computing power in the USA. And after Leonardo starts working on additional GPU farms and hosting the power of his network will begin to grow exponentially.

This is basically the core reason which drove me to Giga Watt.

It's a good news. The team moved noticeably and the interest of the public began to grow in parallel with doubts. I hope soon we will be able to evaluate everything in practice. On access to the beta version, there will be no restrictions?

Interesting project to say the least. Looks like Golem has a competitor. From what I have studied and tested GeePeeU PCI bandwidth isn't an issue for rendering as compared to AI training. I got the following results.

Vray Benchmark:
https://benchmark.chaosgroup.com/gpu/details?hw=Intel%28R%29+Core%28TM%29+i5-2300+CPU+%40+2.80GHz+x4%2C+GeForce+GTX+1070+8192MB+x4&id=16244

System Specs: i5 2300
Ram: 10 GB
GPUs: 4 x 1070s

The difference is of +/- 2 seconds. Keep in mind I used a PCI-express 4x Splitter and these results are from a single PCI-lane.

Here is another result from octane bench:


I saw a 10% performance loss while using the "splitter". Still isn't that much IMO.

---

What I am more interested in is why they are worried about the latency issues and how golem will tackle it. From what I have researched there are plugins already available for connecting up multiple machines for rendering in a LAN environment. Are you guys using one of these? That's the only logical explanation for me to not accept people with less than 100 GPUs. Cause their "software" isn't made to do rendering on the global scale i.e is to split up the task and send it around the globe to an average user/miner.

Also, what will happen with GPUs who will stand idle for most cases? Are you going to support mining as a backup for them? I can't imagine these GPUs are being used 24/7 unless you have managed to land every single Animation studio on the planet to use your service, which I highly doubt at this stage.

Hi, Is it Possible to join with 8 GPUs ?

Maybe you're right! If only for students this service will be available for the price. But it seems to me that rendering itself is not a cheap pleasure (.

so why not do both?
found this. very interesting

https://www.genesiscloud.com/

I do not know how it will turn out, but now the project is  interesting for its novelty and I think it will attract the attention of creative  people. And interesting ideas always cause a lot of questions. Leonardo will have to go through this.

Leonardo imposes on itself a sufficiently large-scale tasks which can be done by professionals. Who is in your team?                  

Quite acceptable conditions, that's only at the speed of the Internet at 10 Mb / s is not very fast. I think this is not enough for rendering.