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It's possible that the PFL will soon recruit new fighters from the UFC at heavyweight to be able to meet Ngannou, but it seems not for Jon Jones.
If Daniel Cormier doesn't decide to retire and his age allows him to fight maybe he can become Ngannou's opponent for the PFL heavyweight title and this will be a very amazing fight because the two former UFC heavyweight champions can meet to fight again, but unfortunately Daniel Cormier is already old impossible to fight anymore.
Dana White may have thought that the PFL could develop even more because they always bring in great fighters even though they are former champions from the UFC.

I really don't see Daniel Cormier fighting again, and he has the best job right now so he surely won't fight anybody for sure, and looking at Cormier I really don't see him getting in shape to fight anybody  and likely he doesn't have the talent and potential of Jon Jones his job it too good to be stained in the octagon again,

But for PFL to get some UFC fighters after the contract signing of Ngannoue there is a highly unlikely chance, that some UFC would switch to PFL for a better payroll for sure,


Yes, you are right and I am also just giving an assumption if Daniel Cormier does not retire and his age is still possible to fight because we all know that Daniel Cormier has retired and will never come back to fight again.
Jon Jones is quite the favorite in the UFC heavyweight division and it seems that for now there is no fighter who can match him in the UFC octagon.

But it could be that the PFL offers a more lucrative contract than the UFC so that some fighters are willing to transition to the PFL and this is very possible as the PFL looks to be growing over time.
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Ngannou will have a boxing tune-up this year so it's most likely a weaker opposition and someone that makes Ngannou win in an impressive fashion as much as possible. And if his dream comes true facing either Fury, Aj, or Wilder, of course, he will get destroyed.

Dana is not obsessed with Ngannou but he is well aware of the financial risks once Ngannou will have a very successful PPV event on his PFL debut. The UFC is earning a lot of money on its PPV events and this might change once its fighters will start demanding a higher share percentage. Besides, if PFL will get even with the same PPV numbers as the UFC, it will become capable of offering UFC stars with higher PPV shares.

A boxing tune-up would be a good experience for Ngannou but if they are picking a fight they should pick a well to deserve surely they can not pick a boxer that could likely win, but they could surely pick a sparring match for Ngannou to get him to look good, to ready him for the best match he wants

Well Dana White is done with Francis Ngannou the fact that he doesn't like him boils down and landing a contract with PFL but I don't know if the 1st fight with Ngannou would be successful enough to reach certain revenue, but let's hope and see for ourselves,


It's possible that the PFL will soon recruit new fighters from the UFC at heavyweight to be able to meet Ngannou, but it seems not for Jon Jones.
If Daniel Cormier doesn't decide to retire and his age allows him to fight maybe he can become Ngannou's opponent for the PFL heavyweight title and this will be a very amazing fight because the two former UFC heavyweight champions can meet to fight again, but unfortunately Daniel Cormier is already old impossible to fight anymore.
Dana White may have thought that the PFL could develop even more because they always bring in great fighters even though they are former champions from the UFC.

I really don't see Daniel Cormier fighting again, and he has the best job right now so he surely won't fight anybody for sure, and looking at Cormier I really don't see him getting in shape to fight anybody  and likely he doesn't have the talent and potential of Jon Jones his job it too good to be stained in the octagon again,

But for PFL to get some UFC fighters after the contract signing of Ngannoue there is a highly unlikely chance, that some UFC would switch to PFL for a better payroll for sure,

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Delija is a good matchup for Ngannou. There is just one problem with that fight. Delija seems to be the strongest or best heavyweight PFL has. In Ngannou wins, and wins easily, there will be no big interest in watching his next fights there, as he would beat already the best they've got. If only they would sign someone else.
That is why PFL is going to hire new heavyweight fighters and I am almost sure someone from UFC will transition and sign to PFL
I saw Dana White saying that he doesnt understand why PFL is doing with this, but I think he understands very well and he is afraid.
He is really desperate and now he is willing to accept Jon Jones fighting against Tyson Fury  in boxing   Grin

LOL, that is not just desperate, that is pathetic. I dont know all their background kitchen, but I would not make such desperate moves to attract attention to UFC. UFC still have a lot planned fights that would make good ticket and PPV sales.

What I dont like about Ngannou and PFL, is that he has now right to influence on decisions. He could push on signing heavyweights that will be convenient for him to beat. But what I like that he must try to steal some heavyweights from UFC. I think UFC has recently released on of decent heavyweight. Dont remember the name, but he that tall, fat and strong body like Tuivasa and Tafa.
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Delija is a good matchup for Ngannou. There is just one problem with that fight. Delija seems to be the strongest or best heavyweight PFL has. In Ngannou wins, and wins easily, there will be no big interest in watching his next fights there, as he would beat already the best they've got. If only they would sign someone else.
That is why PFL is going to hire new heavyweight fighters and I am almost sure someone from UFC will transition and sign to PFL
I saw Dana White saying that he doesnt understand why PFL is doing with this, but I think he understands very well and he is afraid.
He is really desperate and now he is willing to accept Jon Jones fighting against Tyson Fury  in boxing   Grin
It's possible that the PFL will soon recruit new fighters from the UFC at heavyweight to be able to meet Ngannou, but it seems not for Jon Jones.
If Daniel Cormier doesn't decide to retire and his age allows him to fight maybe he can become Ngannou's opponent for the PFL heavyweight title and this will be a very amazing fight because the two former UFC heavyweight champions can meet to fight again, but unfortunately Daniel Cormier is already old impossible to fight anymore.
Dana White may have thought that the PFL could develop even more because they always bring in great fighters even though they are former champions from the UFC.
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This is the only way for Ngannou to let everyone know and clear every doubt that he is the best Heavyweight fighter no matter where he is and the UFC cannot decline that kind of offer if Ngannou will win some fights after he signed on PFL. He just needs to prove himself after a minimum of two fights and he can call out Dana to make it happen when they gonna reject that offer, then it's a win for Ngannou because he took the necessary reason to prove himself and the one who is running away is the UFC. They will need a real logical answer for the fans because that just doesn't make sense if they easily decline it.

If you would think about it Francis Ngannou here forth can do anything now if he got all his fights on a winning streak even his boxing matches then there is likely no debate all I can think of is a collaboration of PFL and the UFC to make a big fight event Jon Jones VS Francis Ngannou that is surely one big event for sure, that is for Dana White if he wants that kind of offer because Dana White is frustrated about what is happening right now he then accept a boxing match for Jon Jones and Tyson Fury, so for sure he can make some decision for this to happen,


I have different opinion. Ngannou wants to fight only top boxers. He has named 3 persons, Fury, AJ and Wilder. All of them are able (and most likely do) to destroy Ngannou in boxing. Not just win, but KO him. I think Dana would put maximum effort to spoil Ngannou possible boxing fight. Like running an UFC event with big names parallelly. It will also harm UFC, but that will shit greatly boxing event with stealing viewers.

But, I think Dana wont be doing anything like that. I think he has left Ngannou case already, but the fact that he comment on that is just the fact that he is only answering question. I think Dana is no longer obsessed with Ngannou. Like with Fedor Emelianenko. He wanted to sign him badly, offered him millions, but after a number of failed, dropped that idea and is no longer interested in that fight. Same goes with Dana and Ngannou. This is already past for him, and as a man behind UFC wheel, he build future, not paying attention to past.

I think Francis Ngannou also had enough of Dana White aswell for not responding to those offers back then but right now maybe this boxing match that Dana White allowed for Jon Jones against Tyson Fury is something to throw off the PFL contract news or this is Dana White's true color being biased to his favorite fighters,

Ngannou has created such a fame during his UFC era, that in any sports he will looks like a favourite. Even if it ice hockey or dancing.

Delija is a good matchup for Ngannou. There is just one problem with that fight. Delija seems to be the strongest or best heavyweight PFL has. In Ngannou wins, and wins easily, there will be no big interest in watching his next fights there, as he would beat already the best they've got. If only they would sign someone else.

Ngannou is just that and every Heavyweight wants the right now position and fame, and now the contract with the PFL is surely Juicy enough a lot of fighters are requesting something the same and they deserve it,

Now there are sure Heavyweights that the PFL can consider as an opponent for Francis Ngannou and yeah the walking trouble could also be a good fight for him and you are right Delija can surely be a great set up for him not Denis Goltsov or Maurice Greene, those are relics but still a big fight for Ngannou but a good banger of a fight could surely be Ante Delija the Walking Trouble,

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Delija is a good matchup for Ngannou. There is just one problem with that fight. Delija seems to be the strongest or best heavyweight PFL has. In Ngannou wins, and wins easily, there will be no big interest in watching his next fights there, as he would beat already the best they've got. If only they would sign someone else.
That is why PFL is going to hire new heavyweight fighters and I am almost sure someone from UFC will transition and sign to PFL
I saw Dana White saying that he doesnt understand why PFL is doing with this, but I think he understands very well and he is afraid.
He is really desperate and now he is willing to accept Jon Jones fighting against Tyson Fury  in boxing   Grin

Given Ngannou's age, he might not really be as dangerous as he was before. Pretty sure all heavyweight prospects in MMA right now with lesser contracts have their eyes on PFL once they became free agents. And of course, Dana White knows what's going on in the industry and he is keeping an eye especially if PFL starts offering bigger contracts to fighters in other divisions.

From my understanding, Dana White will entertain Tyson Fury to face Jon Jones in UFC. So it means MMA rules? Or is Dana now willing to stage boxing rules inside the octagon? Because there is zero chance that Tyson Fury will consider MMA rules. He might not even listen to Dana or Jones' proposals knowing he is the $20 million per fight guy and will dictate the terms. If he ducked Usyk and is scared to bring the fight to neutral Saudi, how much more in MMA rules.
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Delija is a good matchup for Ngannou. There is just one problem with that fight. Delija seems to be the strongest or best heavyweight PFL has. In Ngannou wins, and wins easily, there will be no big interest in watching his next fights there, as he would beat already the best they've got. If only they would sign someone else.
That is why PFL is going to hire new heavyweight fighters and I am almost sure someone from UFC will transition and sign to PFL
I saw Dana White saying that he doesnt understand why PFL is doing with this, but I think he understands very well and he is afraid.
He is really desperate and now he is willing to accept Jon Jones fighting against Tyson Fury  in boxing   Grin
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Ngannou has created such a fame during his UFC era, that in any sports he will looks like a favourite. Even if it ice hockey or dancing.

Delija is a good matchup for Ngannou. There is just one problem with that fight. Delija seems to be the strongest or best heavyweight PFL has. In Ngannou wins, and wins easily, there will be no big interest in watching his next fights there, as he would beat already the best they've got. If only they would sign someone else.
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Dana is not obsessed with Ngannou but he is well aware of the financial risks once Ngannou will have a very successful PPV event on his PFL debut. The UFC is earning a lot of money on its PPV events and this might change once its fighters will start demanding a higher share percentage. Besides, if PFL will get even with the same PPV numbers as the UFC, it will become capable of offering UFC stars with higher PPV shares.
Randy Couture said that Croatian fighter Ante Delija would make a great debut opponent for Francis Ngannou in the PFL, and I agree with him.
Few days ago Delija was one of my suggestions to fight against Ngannou, and many people dont know that he is in good relationship with MMA legend Mirko Crocop,
and maybe Stipe Miocic could help Delija to prepare for this fight and give him some tips how to fight against Ngannou, he already beat him once in 2018.
To be fair I think that Ngannou would be huge favorite in that fight, but Delija should not be underestimated.
Randy Couture interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGKCLO3sTr0
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I highly doubt that Dana will make any collaborations that have to do with Ngannou. Dana White is not at peace right now after Ngannou successfully lured the other big organizations to offer him big contracts. Dana will find peace only if Ngannou losses his boxing tune-up (unlikely) this year which means devaluing his market and of course the PPV numbers after his PFL debut which is expected to happen next year.

But even at the moment, I am hearing rumors which are normal for the remaining UFC stars with lesser contracts but are already proven with their PPV numbers. Well, actually most of UFC's champions have higher PPV numbers than Ngannou. Dana might be forced to change his style in computing PPV shares to his stars which is very very small compared to Ngannou's 50% with PFL.

I have different opinion. Ngannou wants to fight only top boxers. He has named 3 persons, Fury, AJ and Wilder. All of them are able (and most likely do) to destroy Ngannou in boxing. Not just win, but KO him. I think Dana would put maximum effort to spoil Ngannou possible boxing fight. Like running an UFC event with big names parallelly. It will also harm UFC, but that will shit greatly boxing event with stealing viewers.

But, I think Dana wont be doing anything like that. I think he has left Ngannou case already, but the fact that he comment on that is just the fact that he is only answering question. I think Dana is no longer obsessed with Ngannou. Like with Fedor Emelianenko. He wanted to sign him badly, offered him millions, but after a number of failed, dropped that idea and is no longer interested in that fight. Same goes with Dana and Ngannou. This is already past for him, and as a man behind UFC wheel, he build future, not paying attention to past.

Ngannou will have a boxing tune-up this year so it's most likely a weaker opposition and someone that makes Ngannou win in an impressive fashion as much as possible. And if his dream comes true facing either Fury, Aj, or Wilder, of course, he will get destroyed.

Dana is not obsessed with Ngannou but he is well aware of the financial risks once Ngannou will have a very successful PPV event on his PFL debut. The UFC is earning a lot of money on its PPV events and this might change once its fighters will start demanding a higher share percentage. Besides, if PFL will get even with the same PPV numbers as the UFC, it will become capable of offering UFC stars with higher PPV shares.
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I highly doubt that Dana will make any collaborations that have to do with Ngannou. Dana White is not at peace right now after Ngannou successfully lured the other big organizations to offer him big contracts. Dana will find peace only if Ngannou losses his boxing tune-up (unlikely) this year which means devaluing his market and of course the PPV numbers after his PFL debut which is expected to happen next year.

But even at the moment, I am hearing rumors which are normal for the remaining UFC stars with lesser contracts but are already proven with their PPV numbers. Well, actually most of UFC's champions have higher PPV numbers than Ngannou. Dana might be forced to change his style in computing PPV shares to his stars which is very very small compared to Ngannou's 50% with PFL.

I have different opinion. Ngannou wants to fight only top boxers. He has named 3 persons, Fury, AJ and Wilder. All of them are able (and most likely do) to destroy Ngannou in boxing. Not just win, but KO him. I think Dana would put maximum effort to spoil Ngannou possible boxing fight. Like running an UFC event with big names parallelly. It will also harm UFC, but that will shit greatly boxing event with stealing viewers.

But, I think Dana wont be doing anything like that. I think he has left Ngannou case already, but the fact that he comment on that is just the fact that he is only answering question. I think Dana is no longer obsessed with Ngannou. Like with Fedor Emelianenko. He wanted to sign him badly, offered him millions, but after a number of failed, dropped that idea and is no longer interested in that fight. Same goes with Dana and Ngannou. This is already past for him, and as a man behind UFC wheel, he build future, not paying attention to past.
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^  A cross promotion event is the only chance we see an Ngannou vs Jones match up.  And judging from what the UFC was willing to do with Nunes and Kayla Harris before, it's not outside the realms of possbility that we see a Ngannou vs Jones event happening.  It just needs to make some sense from a business perspective and it really does make a looot of sense.


This is the only way for Ngannou to let everyone know and clear every doubt that he is the best Heavyweight fighter no matter where he is and the UFC cannot decline that kind of offer if Ngannou will win some fights after he signed on PFL. He just needs to prove himself after a minimum of two fights and he can call out Dana to make it happen when they gonna reject that offer, then it's a win for Ngannou because he took the necessary reason to prove himself and the one who is running away is the UFC. They will need a real logical answer for the fans because that just doesn't make sense if they easily decline it.

I highly doubt that Dana will make any collaborations that have to do with Ngannou. Dana White is not at peace right now after Ngannou successfully lured the other big organizations to offer him big contracts. Dana will find peace only if Ngannou losses his boxing tune-up (unlikely) this year which means devaluing his market and of course the PPV numbers after his PFL debut which is expected to happen next year.

But even at the moment, I am hearing rumors which are normal for the remaining UFC stars with lesser contracts but are already proven with their PPV numbers. Well, actually most of UFC's champions have higher PPV numbers than Ngannou. Dana might be forced to change his style in computing PPV shares to his stars which is very very small compared to Ngannou's 50% with PFL.
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^  A cross promotion event is the only chance we see an Ngannou vs Jones match up.  And judging from what the UFC was willing to do with Nunes and Kayla Harris before, it's not outside the realms of possbility that we see a Ngannou vs Jones event happening.  It just needs to make some sense from a business perspective and it really does make a looot of sense.


This is the only way for Ngannou to let everyone know and clear every doubt that he is the best Heavyweight fighter no matter where he is and the UFC cannot decline that kind of offer if Ngannou will win some fights after he signed on PFL. He just needs to prove himself after a minimum of two fights and he can call out Dana to make it happen when they gonna reject that offer, then it's a win for Ngannou because he took the necessary reason to prove himself and the one who is running away is the UFC. They will need a real logical answer for the fans because that just doesn't make sense if they easily decline it.
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Good point about stamina. During early career, Ngannou fight mostly oxygen, not his opponent. He does not have much experience of long fights. Boxers imho are more endured than MMA fighters. They dont spend stamina on leg kicks, they dont have to try to move from 120+ kg that lays on them (even though some prefer dirty boxing and lean opponents). Quadriceps, humans biggest muscle, does not eat that much energy in boxing. Good that you have point that. I dont see Ngannou ready for 12 round fight.

There are still big differences when it comes to boxing and MMA at least we see that with most of Jake Paul's fights while fighting an MMA fighter but yeah the biggest thing is about both fighters' gas tanks mostly boxers would have a much gas than with MMA fighters however I think Francis Ngannou has already known this kind of issue and I think that is why he wants to fight those heavyweight meaning he is already ready and prepared for them,

When Jon Jones retires, PFL needs to sign him and organize a fight against Ngannou Cheesy If they do that, Dana would smash everything and everyone, instead of slapping his wife Cheesy

Overeem isnt that scare without roids, Cigano has already lost to Ngannou, Rothwell will be like taking a candy from kid for Ngannou, Delija - probably wont survive Ngannou pressure. But Werdum is able to pull some BJJ trick imho.

That is a great idea to piss off Dana White, however, I really think Dana White is already at his boiling point even though he doesn't show it in public it was seen in his latest interview, now the PFL need to do their all to reign slightly higher than UFC,

Those fighters that weren't in the UFC anymore will likely take a different route or even take PFL for that matter, because of what it did to Francis Ngannou maybe other fighters will used this same trick,
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That Francis Ngannou contract signing is a blast I really think that he has caught a big fish and that is PFL, I just wish it will really be a benefit for both parties, but anyway moving on to PFL I really think we got an LFA even coming this week because we don't have any UFC event this week, and it will be the other week I guess posting this is a great time,

LFA 159: Polastri vs. Conceição

Date & Time: 05.27.2023 at 09:00 PM ET
Promotion: Legacy Fighting Alliance
Location: Caraguatatuba, São Paulo, Brazil



MAIN EVENT
Julia Polastri VS Rose Conceição

CO-MAIN EVENT
Rodolfo Bellato VS Acácio dos Santos

MAIN CARD
Geraldo Neto VS Argemiro Delmandes
Lucas Rocha VS Matheus da Silva
Hugo Cunha VS Fernando Batista
Vinicius Pires VS Kauã Fernandes
Anderson Ferreira VS Junior Luiz

PRELIMINARY CARD
Gabriel Silva VS Lerryan Douglas
Marcos Degli VS Hugo Paiva
Isaias Simões VS João Paulo Santos
Levi Rodrigues VS José Carlos Lima
Rafaela Silva VS Aieza Bertolso

Info was from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/100420-lfa-159-polastri-vs-conceicao

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^  A cross promotion event is the only chance we see an Ngannou vs Jones match up.  And judging from what the UFC was willing to do with Nunes and Kayla Harris before, it's not outside the realms of possbility that we see a Ngannou vs Jones event happening.  It just needs to make some sense from a business perspective and it really does make a looot of sense.
I think this is possible to happen only when Dana White leaves UFC.
Ngannou did amazing thing with this deal and he proved that he cares a lot about other people, after him nothing in MMA will be the same, that is why Dana was afraid of him.
If Dana lived in time of ancient Rome he would probably be owner of slave gladiators  Grin

With Nunes vs Harris...  It was supposed to happen after Nunes vs Pena at UFC 269.  But the huge upset happened with Pena winning the bout.  So the planned cross promotion event was cancelled.
I like Pena much more than Nunes, it is a shame she got injured, but I think she is younger and have time to be champion again.

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When Jon Jones retires, PFL needs to sign him and organize a fight against Ngannou Cheesy If they do that, Dana would smash everything and everyone, instead of slapping his wife Cheesy
I doubt Jon Jones would fight for any other promotion once he makes his retirement. He is a legend of the sport and Francis Ngannou was not even willing to fight Jon Jones in the UFC and left on his terms and with the money Jon Jones makes with the UFC he wont be returning once again after he makes his mind retiring from active competition.

Overeem isnt that scare without roids, Cigano has already lost to Ngannou, Rothwell will be like taking a candy from kid for Ngannou, Delija - probably wont survive Ngannou pressure. But Werdum is able to pull some BJJ trick imho.
All the best Heavyweights are in the UFC and PFL can sign the old stars but what interest that will be created as everyone knows Ngannou is not even fighting the best fighters. The PPV numbers and the revenue he can generate in his next fight in the PFL will determine whether the signing was a strong one.

When Francis was still in the UFC fighting every heavyweight he can but Jones stays retired and when Ngannou didn't sign another contract Jones comes back. I don't think Ngannou was ducking him. Dana knows Ngannou wants Jones so he activates Jones back to lure Ngannou back to UFC but the bad blood between Dana and Francis spilled worse already. A cross-promotion might just be a fair stage for this to materialize otherwise there is no interesting fight but boxing for Francis.
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When Jon Jones retires, PFL needs to sign him and organize a fight against Ngannou Cheesy If they do that, Dana would smash everything and everyone, instead of slapping his wife Cheesy
I doubt Jon Jones would fight for any other promotion once he makes his retirement. He is a legend of the sport and Francis Ngannou was not even willing to fight Jon Jones in the UFC and left on his terms and with the money Jon Jones makes with the UFC he wont be returning once again after he makes his mind retiring from active competition.

Overeem isnt that scare without roids, Cigano has already lost to Ngannou, Rothwell will be like taking a candy from kid for Ngannou, Delija - probably wont survive Ngannou pressure. But Werdum is able to pull some BJJ trick imho.
All the best Heavyweights are in the UFC and PFL can sign the old stars but what interest that will be created as everyone knows Ngannou is not even fighting the best fighters. The PPV numbers and the revenue he can generate in his next fight in the PFL will determine whether the signing was a strong one.
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When Jon Jones retires, PFL needs to sign him and organize a fight against Ngannou Cheesy If they do that, Dana would smash everything and everyone, instead of slapping his wife Cheesy
For now Jon Jones is still the holder of the heavyweight champion title in the UFC and it looks like he will retire when later his fighting performance decreases and is beaten by another bettor in the heavyweight class, with Jon Jones' retirement later I am not sure the PFL will make a contract with him because remember now he is 36 years old.
Actually Ngannou also has almost the same age as Jon Jones and if the PFL brings them together it will be a very epic battle because both of them are great heavyweight fighters.
But back to the original thought that it doesn't look like the PFL is going to sign Jon Jones.
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