Topic: Monero XMR ... Why do people fall for the shills and bullshit? - page 4. (Read 6114 times)

moot...there you learned something positive tonight 

I'm not entirely sure as I'm not watching Monero that closely but that wasn't a post by a developer. It was rather by a community member. You don't even realize what a man fluffy is. He actually gave me an objective opinion on other coins which you can rarely get from anyone who's invested in X coin. What's wrong with giving out XMR for a tweet?
Stop complaining about forks, there is a reason these coins are open source! Your point is invalid.

I'm thinking this is what is causing your problems: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740112.240

OH yeah! That's why I don't go to baseball and football games or wear jerseys. One carried away individual has totally swayed my opinion on an entire team so hard before that I almost wrote a book about it!

You're making no sense here retard

Surely not. I am truly shocked! 

True enough, they do communicate with the "community". What were you asked to do this week? Tweet for 0.2 XMR? Or did you get in on the "tweet for 0.4 XMR" action?

Absolutely agreed. I posted about this previously:


Right now, BBR just works- one click setup. It syncs faster than XMR. The interface is not in wireframe or mockup stage, it's out now and perfectly intuitive  It improves upon the anonymity of CN

It has inbuilt capability to reduce the size of the blockchain by 30-70% BBR features aliases, so you can send money to your friend tony by typing  @tony and clicking send , just like twitter messages. Meanwhile with XMR you are forced to copy and paste long sequences of numbers. BBR has completely open source GPU miners, that don't hold you to ransom by stealing hashpower or forcing a donation to the dev like with XMR.

BBR has got a much more attractive emission curve that actually had a bit of foresight. XMR was cloned verbatim without much thought it seems. greedy miners will love it though.. BBR has more sensible block times. with BBR there is more chance for ecosystem to mature to a level where a larger pool of participants can gain rewards, XMR will be 50% mined in a year, which has been a death sentence for other coins.  BBR will require less daily BTC inflow to maintain the current price, the list goes on.

 Monero is praised as the 'only contender in the risk for global liquidity market' or some shit, claimed as the next litecoin, pumped all day long by rpietila and his band of merry men. Jumping on the trollbox is a harrowing experience because you get accosted by guys who ask if they can just take 2 minutes of your time to tell you about monero almost instantly. We're seeing 1000x price increase predictions for XMR. Not going to happen of course but it sounds good, and that's what matter- gives a target and a bit of hope. Who would want to miss out on 1000x gains? no-one so join the train! Meanwhile BBR is ranking barely above CleanWaterCoin, below applecoin, guldencoin, zccoin etc and constantly hemorrhaging. What a Sorry state of affairs. I know which one I see more upwards potential in

XMR proponents and shills will come here and spout the same story 'we are not taking part in a race' we're doing things slowly and gradually. Tortoise and the hare style. They make these insinuations BBR has rushed and that'll cost them the race that they are already losing for completely different reasons

If you haven't actually used the two, go and use them both side by side. BBR just works well, now. Perfectly decent user experience. I know I come across here like a massive BBR shill but it just boggles my mind to see the disparity in valuation. BBR is almost 5% of the price of XMR. you can literally nearly by 20BBR for every 1 XMR. The fundamentals are not in place to support that fuckery.

KBM - You are so kind - thank you for your encouragement.

Monero is great because it is a fork of Bytecoin!  

I just worry about some of the Monero fans who get a bit carried away and vitriolic - it helps no fan of Cryptonote.

I just dealt with your point, yet you have responded.

Yes, in 5 years time, Monero might be the King of altcoins, presiding over a parliament of other amazing coins such as beertokens or sexcoin.

But I'm kind of edging towards the idea that the 1000s of altcoins out there are entitled to make the same claim.

So the point you make is mute at best.

Different release philosophies. BBR went with MVP while XMR is using "pragmatism, forethought, and careful planning."

Oh right you are again J1mb0, nobody has done exactly zero work on helping with this. So good of you to point it out, yet again. Man, I guess we should all just listen to J1mb0 and spend a tenth of our energy helping Monero! The other 9/10 of your energy can be spent doing everything else J1mb0 says, which is probably gonna be spending more energy helping Monero because he's such a big fan.

I'm not in any way related to Monero. Except from owning a few. Your point is very much invalid.
Anything else?
Besides the developers are hard at work, and actually communicate more often with the community then most others. What else can you ask of them?

Yes! Here we have it. If the Monero shillsters and bullshitters spent a 10th of their energy in helping Monero with coding or infrastructure then we would all be happy. Instead we are here.

Have fun when you end up with stuff like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HOFOy4gJ-Xg/UM8vczUEliI/AAAAAAAABC0/zp5ztOqG1jY/s1600/3912353392c52324_o.png
http://i.stack.imgur.com/yUyY1.png
The majority of the users of crypto are too stupid to type them or too lazy.
Hence why some are complaining.
I told you, if it's that easy then do it yourself and contribute to the project.  

This is totally the reason I use windows! Right again J1mb0! You so smart  

Is it not possible that the true BTC market hasn't been determined yet?  Is it not possible that we haven't even begun to grasp what a BTC even is   

In 5 years someone might say "There has only been one Monero"... to rule out the possibility is asinine this early in the crypto race.

Err, Yes. High school kids make GUI's all the time. It only seems to be an issue with the XMR MONERO developers. Perhaps they think that MONERO users are too stupid to type commands on a CLI.

What has that actually got to do with anything? Are you trying to state that it is easy to make an GUI? Yeah sure when someone else already designed the Bitcoin one and most coins just go with making some adjustments and changing the icons.
If it is that easy then go do it yourself.
This thread is just another FUD attempt it seems.

That's a bit deep, man. I have consumed large amounts of homebrew and Even after rereading it a few times I still cannot make sense of it.

EDIT: But it sounds profound.

Sarcasm is okay with me, but sarcasm fails when it uses fallacious reasoning. There is no reason to liken Monero to BTC. There has only been one BTC, and Monero is not a contender, just like DigitalCoin or HeavyCoin or Quark.

The fact that it has to be surrounded by secrecy actually puts you out of the market that BTC is reaching towards.

So the analogy was very poor.

Honestly, you have the best attitude among anyone associated with Monero. Build something awesome, and I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong.