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Quote from: Davian144 on October 04, 2022, 10:57:36 PM

It would be very strange if money was not used as the main goal in life

Do you really think that money are the main goal in life? What about for example education or knowledge then? Imagine someone becomes so rich and own all the money in the world, what should he do next? His life goal is achieved. Should he die then?

I think that money are an international instrument to measure success. You finish something, you get a reward, you get paid. The better you do, to more you are getting paid. More money you have, more you can spend, more you can get, more you will be motivated to earn. That is it. But imo, money are not the goal of life.

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Quote from: Vzae on October 10, 2022, 10:57:14 AM

Indeed for people money is everything, that's why there is a saying that time is money. From here we learn how important money is for human life. although money can be misleading and become the root of evil but the printing of money in this world is needed as the exchange value of something.

The saying time is money doesn't mean money is everything, a saying like that has a universal meaning in my opinion. Time is money in my opinion is the importance we value time. Sometimes we forget precious time and put more importance on something that can be said to be not very meaningful. Because if money is everything then in life there will be no such thing as morals, norms and so on. Everyone will definitely do everything possible in various ways, including those who violate applicable regulations. We should not misinterpret this because it may lead us astray.

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Indeed for people money is everything, that's why there is a saying that time is money. From here we learn how important money is for human life. although money can be misleading and become the root of evil but the printing of money in this world is needed as the exchange value of something.

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Of course money is the best motivation to do many things, with money we have the passion to work, and do work professionally, besides that with money we can tell whether we deserve to be expensive or cheap.

But don't let money mislead us, because it's not uncommon for people to be idealistic at first but after getting to know the money they are even eviler than imagined. We can take a lesson from a corruptor, isn't money their motivation when they do something very bad eating something that is not their right? This is an example of when they are misled by money so that they easily harm others and even themselves. Money being motivation is a good thing, but don't forget that it's not always about money and you have to be good at dividing when you do it and when you shouldn't.

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Quote from: Jiovanni on September 02, 2022, 09:42:35 AM

Money is a good follower, but is a poor leader.

Money will always lead you astray, but it will follow you well.

Any man that seeks to follow money becomes misled.
Money is meant to follow you, while you are meant to follow value. Create value, solve problems, and do it well, you'll attract people to follow you; remember, money follows people with value.

What's your take on this?

For long time money has been created so that we can get something that we want to get. Besides that, money is not bad, it just becomes bad because of the person who uses it. Why? Money becomes a way or reason for people to do good or bad. The question is how do people or individuals make money? The proper way for you to have money is to have a proper job, whether your position is high or low or if you have your own business. In a bad way, people can get money by stealing, embezzlement, and all illegal things that they can get money from.

In short, it is up to our people how we recognize money in our lives if money is the only reason for us to live in this era, for me this is a wrong view and belief. Because even if we don't have money, we can still live well if we are a resourceful and capable person who knows how to have it.

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Quote from: freedomgo on October 03, 2022, 04:27:16 PM

Quote from: m2017 on September 13, 2022, 02:06:10 PM

Money is first and foremost a tool. A tool to achieve goals. The motivating factor will be what you strive to get, and money will help here. I think it's wrong to think that money is a motivating factor. "Chasing" money just for the sake of having it? I think this is a little strange. There is always something "worth" behind the money, the same yacht or lambo. Anything you want to buy with that money.

Others may have misinterpreted it and sees money as the one that motivates them to work hard and strive more. But definitely, it’s not the money itself but rather the purpose or reason why you should have that money. Some would want to reward themselves and buy something valuable, and some badly needed them just for survival. But the good thing is, at least we should always work hard first so we can get what we want in life, and that money is just a tool for it.

It is true that the majority of people struggle hard to collect as much money as possible, it does not mean that everyone is motivated by money.
But that's because they are motivated to be able to get something of value, which only by having money can they get something of value.
This means that everyone who wants to have money, behind it there must be a certain goal that they want to get. Like my goal of having money is
to buy things that I think are valuable, so what motivates me is actually the things I want. Suppose I want to have a luxury house, then I will collect
a lot of money to be able to buy the luxury house that I want. This means that the factor that motivates me is a luxury house, because money itself is
only an object used for buying and selling transactions.

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Quote from: Jiovanni on September 02, 2022, 09:42:35 AM

Money is a good follower, but is a poor leader.

Money will always lead you astray, but it will follow you well.

Any man that seeks to follow money becomes misled.
Money is meant to follow you, while you are meant to follow value. Create value, solve problems, and do it well, you'll attract people to follow you; remember, money follows people with value.

What's your take on this?

Money answereth all things according to even the holy bible. And with money and proper knowledge, I'm certain a whole lot of things will definitely go right.
And I really don't think following money is bad and the value you talked of can't be easily obtained without money as people tend to respect people with money. I heard of a saying sometime ago that "WITHOUT MONEY, OUR ADVICE IS NOTHING BUT MERE NOISE" I felt that so hard and it seemed true because people don't usually see value in the advice of a poor elderly man, but would rather choose to take advice from a young wealthy man.

Hence money is the motivating factor and without money, so many things might go wrong but with money, definitely life is easy and sweet.

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Money is something that everyone wants. Many people because of lack of money, they are desperate for something illegal.

In my opinion, money is not something that is detrimental, but if it is misused it will be something that is detrimental.

Money will be the most lethal weapon in the world today.
People who work, will eventually earn money. So, the first thing you're looking for is money.

If money is used well, it will be good, but if it is used for evil, it will become evil.

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Quote from: freedomgo on October 03, 2022, 04:27:16 PM

Quote from: m2017 on September 13, 2022, 02:06:10 PM

Money is first and foremost a tool. A tool to achieve goals. The motivating factor will be what you strive to get, and money will help here. I think it's wrong to think that money is a motivating factor. "Chasing" money just for the sake of having it? I think this is a little strange. There is always something "worth" behind the money, the same yacht or lambo. Anything you want to buy with that money.

Others may have misinterpreted it and sees money as the one that motivates them to work hard and strive more. But definitely, it’s not the money itself but rather the purpose or reason why you should have that money. Some would want to reward themselves and buy something valuable, and some badly needed them just for survival. But the good thing is, at least we should always work hard first so we can get what we want in life, and that money is just a tool for it.

Uhmm it does not apply to everybody. Though it's somehow true that the goal that money can buy could be the motivating factor, but then again it does not apply to everybody. I knew many people who work hard and work smart to fill up their bank accounts, they don't have specific goals anymore after they bough their house or car. They are motivated to earn more money so they can buy or be ready financially with whatever will come in the future.
Still, it is the money that partly motivates you even if you set a goal for it. Most of us tends to do overtime, extra work, and a side hustle to earn MORE money for us to reach a goal faster.

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Quote from: Davian144 on October 04, 2022, 10:57:36 PM

Quote from: CapGelatik on October 04, 2022, 05:04:26 PM

That's true indeed in life and to make ends meet money is an important thing,
but on the other hand money should not be used as a goal because they are two different things

It would be very strange if money was not used as the main goal in life other than worshiping God based on the beliefs of each. Because whoever the motivator is and whatever they say, they must be told in the end to try and work hard so that everyone's life can be better and that's for sure with money in it.

So the motivation to have a lot of money is very important and also part of everyone's life goals, because worship alone must also have money, unless you can live by not buying any food for your life.

Yes, in my religious teachings, the main purpose of life is worship. We must have that foundation first to form a personality and become a guide for living life. If we look out there are lots of cases that even lead to murder just because of money. If we don't have a religious basis (according to my belief religion) then more and more people will do that even more cruelly. This may seem trivial but what I feel is huge.

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Quote from: CapGelatik on October 04, 2022, 05:04:26 PM

That's true indeed in life and to make ends meet money is an important thing,
but on the other hand money should not be used as a goal because they are two different things

It would be very strange if money was not used as the main goal in life other than worshiping God based on the beliefs of each. Because whoever the motivator is and whatever they say, they must be told in the end to try and work hard so that everyone's life can be better and that's for sure with money in it.

So the motivation to have a lot of money is very important and also part of everyone's life goals, because worship alone must also have money, unless you can live by not buying any food for your life.

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Quote from: Sterbens on October 04, 2022, 01:33:32 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on October 03, 2022, 04:27:16 PM

Quote from: m2017 on September 13, 2022, 02:06:10 PM

Money is first and foremost a tool. A tool to achieve goals. The motivating factor will be what you strive to get, and money will help here. I think it's wrong to think that money is a motivating factor. "Chasing" money just for the sake of having it? I think this is a little strange. There is always something "worth" behind the money, the same yacht or lambo. Anything you want to buy with that money.

Others may have misinterpreted it and sees money as the one that motivates them to work hard and strive more. But definitely, it’s not the money itself but rather the purpose or reason why you should have that money. Some would want to reward themselves and buy something valuable, and some badly needed them just for survival. But the good thing is, at least we should always work hard first so we can get what we want in life, and that money is just a tool for it.

As long as you don't make money your goal, I think it's okay to use money as a motivation to do something. It is undeniable that money is one of the most valuable things nowadays. Sometimes we feel lacking for nothing but we don't have money. We don't blame it for that because the times are moving in that direction. In conclusion, do not make money as a goal, because in my opinion it is something wrong.

That's true indeed in life and to make ends meet money is an important thing,
but on the other hand money should not be used as a goal because they are two different things

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Quote from: freedomgo on October 03, 2022, 04:27:16 PM

Quote from: m2017 on September 13, 2022, 02:06:10 PM

Money is first and foremost a tool. A tool to achieve goals. The motivating factor will be what you strive to get, and money will help here. I think it's wrong to think that money is a motivating factor. "Chasing" money just for the sake of having it? I think this is a little strange. There is always something "worth" behind the money, the same yacht or lambo. Anything you want to buy with that money.

Others may have misinterpreted it and sees money as the one that motivates them to work hard and strive more. But definitely, it’s not the money itself but rather the purpose or reason why you should have that money. Some would want to reward themselves and buy something valuable, and some badly needed them just for survival. But the good thing is, at least we should always work hard first so we can get what we want in life, and that money is just a tool for it.

As long as you don't make money your goal, I think it's okay to use money as a motivation to do something. It is undeniable that money is one of the most valuable things nowadays. Sometimes we feel lacking for nothing but we don't have money. We don't blame it for that because the times are moving in that direction. In conclusion, do not make money as a goal, because in my opinion it is something wrong.

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Quote from: m2017 on September 13, 2022, 02:06:10 PM

Money is first and foremost a tool. A tool to achieve goals. The motivating factor will be what you strive to get, and money will help here. I think it's wrong to think that money is a motivating factor. "Chasing" money just for the sake of having it? I think this is a little strange. There is always something "worth" behind the money, the same yacht or lambo. Anything you want to buy with that money.

Others may have misinterpreted it and sees money as the one that motivates them to work hard and strive more. But definitely, it’s not the money itself but rather the purpose or reason why you should have that money. Some would want to reward themselves and buy something valuable, and some badly needed them just for survival. But the good thing is, at least we should always work hard first so we can get what we want in life, and that money is just a tool for it.

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Quote from: m2017 on September 13, 2022, 02:06:10 PM

Money is first and foremost a tool. A tool to achieve goals. The motivating factor will be what you strive to get, and money will help here. I think it's wrong to think that money is a motivating factor. "Chasing" money just for the sake of having it? I think this is a little strange. There is always something "worth" behind the money, the same yacht or lambo. Anything you want to buy with that money.

It’s not the money that motivate us to strive hard, but it’s our goal that keep us pushing through. And when all our goals and dreams will be achieved, then it will bring along decent amount of money that is part of our goal. However, others may have misinterpreted this and stick to getting money as their sole purpose in life, when in fact it’s only a tool that can help us in realizing our goals.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on September 26, 2022, 01:12:00 AM

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It can be said that the influence of money is currently very strong, people are only motivated for money so that without money they will be quiet or do the things they like, the other side of course will make the social value disappear because what is thought is the value of money that will be obtained if you do something .

Social value only still exists in some villages that are far from urban areas, because rural residents do not all see work from the amount of money given by others even though they work to earn money to be able to eat and drink. But on the side of considering the customs in the countryside, they don't see how much money they will get other than helping others to finish.

Urban areas are basically the customers of everyone as well, that's an important topic to keep in mind. I mean think about it this way, if the rural areas didn't produced then urban areas couldn't eat, but if urban areas didn't buy them, then rural areas wouldn't be able to continue living neither.

There is a reason why cities are getting bigger salaries compared to towns, and that's not only because rent is higher, it's also because the jobs there are worthy of bigger salaries as well. If you live in a city with 1+ million population versus in a place with 10k population, more often than not, you are going to find a job that is worthy of a high salary, allowing you to spend it on other peoples products.

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I'd say not but this is now necessary and one of our necessities.
I used to work hard in order to earn money but not because I was motivated by doing it. I did this because we can't survive without money and this is also one way to get what we want and satisfies ourselves.

It is to consider now that money could manipulate someone but not in a way it motivates him to work. It was just because there is something that person wanted to get or reach which pushed him/her to work hard.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 23, 2022, 01:32:53 PM

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It can be said that the influence of money is currently very strong, people are only motivated for money so that without money they will be quiet or do the things they like, the other side of course will make the social value disappear because what is thought is the value of money that will be obtained if you do something .

The big influence of money has been strong since a very very long time ago, it is not only in the current era. Almost everything can be paid by money, that's why people are motivated to collect money as much as possible. Even a few people dedicated their life to money only, they think money is everything. If we view this from religious and social views, it is totally wrong. Too much expecting for money may lead to a decrease in an individual's morale/manners. He will value everything according to the money side only. This type of person will be fully stressed because he only thinks about money.

Those who think money is everything, are completely wrong. But there is no denying the fact that without money, your life will be meaningless, everyone will look down on you, no one will listen to you, not even your loved ones. Instead of offering words of encouragement and comfort, most will receive contempt and criticism. It is the way people treat people that has created the wrong thinking of many people, leading to today money is being put first.
Nowadays, it is very difficult for a poor boy to get a wife, and women looking for a husband also rely on men's pockets. So once they earn money, their personality will definitely change.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on September 26, 2022, 08:29:43 PM

Money doesn’t buy happiness, I do know that. I know it’s easy to say well hey you can go out any buy whatever you want and that will make you happy, but as mace said “mo money, mo problems”. (Just kinda kidding about that second part)

I don’t think it’s as much about what money will do to you, but about how you act as a person when you have it. You can still chase after it, obtain it, but not let it control you as a person. I think it’s important to distinguish that.

It's a fact Wink

money doesn't buy happiness but happiness starts from money at least for now like that.
Everyone needs money in some way and it is very naive to put money aside in happiness.
Even though there are indeed some people who leave their glamorous life to find happiness in their own lives such as traveling wherever they want and living a simple life, but hey, that doesn't rule out the fact that they need capital for it and money still influences there.

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Money doesn’t buy happiness, I do know that. I know it’s easy to say well hey you can go out any buy whatever you want and that will make you happy, but as mace said “mo money, mo problems”. (Just kinda kidding about that second part)

I don’t think it’s as much about what money will do to you, but about how you act as a person when you have it. You can still chase after it, obtain it, but not let it control you as a person. I think it’s important to distinguish that.

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