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It can be said that the influence of money is currently very strong, people are only motivated for money so that without money they will be quiet or do the things they like, the other side of course will make the social value disappear because what is thought is the value of money that will be obtained if you do something .

Social value only still exists in some villages that are far from urban areas, because rural residents do not all see work from the amount of money given by others even though they work to earn money to be able to eat and drink. But on the side of considering the customs in the countryside, they don't see how much money they will get other than helping others to finish.

Quote from: Stella Mese on September 25, 2022, 11:45:40 PM

it's like that. we meet a lot of people like that. I myself also think that money is important but money is not everything.
social values such as morals must still be the main. but the positive is that people become motivated to work hard to earn money. for the lower class, money is only a means to meet the needs of their daily life. they focus on making ends meet and one of them is by working to earn money.

Money is everything for those who live in urban areas because finding food in urban areas is still very difficult if someone does not have certain skills that can be used by others.
Moreover, in urban areas, social values are not taken into account, so the effort to help each other is still very small even though most people in urban areas still always maintain their ethics and morals so as not to disturb others in every way.

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It can be said that the influence of money is currently very strong, people are only motivated for money so that without money they will be quiet or do the things they like, the other side of course will make the social value disappear because what is thought is the value of money that will be obtained if you do something .

it's like that. we meet a lot of people like that. I myself also think that money is important but money is not everything.
social values such as morals must still be the main. but the positive is that people become motivated to work hard to earn money. for the lower class, money is only a means to meet the needs of their daily life. they focus on making ends meet and one of them is by working to earn money.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on September 23, 2022, 12:36:17 PM

Many people do get lead astray because its in human nature to be too greedy. I think the reason for that is biological. Back when the first humans had to survive, greed was a great defensive force against dying. So you grab what you can and do not let go, as it would give you a bigger chance at survival.

Nowadays greed is completely unnecessary, unless you are living in a very very poor country.

I disagree - even people who are not living in a poor country are greedy as well.
I know someone who is living a fine life in a rich country and is scamming people around him - to satisfy his lust for greed of wealth and money - what would you call that kind of creature? It would call them owl.

I think we misunderstood each other. Allow me to clarify my viewpoint a bit:

I already said ALL people are greedy because its in human nature. I also said it was unnecessary (but unfortunately, it still exists). If it did not exist, this world might be a better one. Or maybe not. Who knows?

I am not sure what you mean by owl but it sounds like something that might mean greedy in your native culture. In which case, I would agree with you on what you said about scammers. They have a moral deficit.

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Quote from: Jiovanni on September 02, 2022, 08:42:35 AM

Money is a good follower, but is a poor leader.

Money will always lead you astray, but it will follow you well.

Any man that seeks to follow money becomes misled.
Money is meant to follow you, while you are meant to follow value. Create value, solve problems, and do it well, you'll attract people to follow you; remember, money follows people with value.

What's your take on this?

Its not really money that seems to be the motivating factor but power. Money gives you the power to purchase things or services that you would like. Without money you do not have that power. Money is the storage of value, which is the quantity of the power you can exert, basically.

Many people do get lead astray because its in human nature to be too greedy. I think the reason for that is biological. Back when the first humans had to survive, greed was a great defensive force against dying. So you grab what you can and do not let go, as it would give you a bigger chance at survival.

Nowadays greed is completely unnecessary, unless you are living in a very very poor country.

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It can be said that the influence of money is currently very strong, people are only motivated for money so that without money they will be quiet or do the things they like, the other side of course will make the social value disappear because what is thought is the value of money that will be obtained if you do something .

The big influence of money has been strong since a very very long time ago, it is not only in the current era. Almost everything can be paid by money, that's why people are motivated to collect money as much as possible. Even a few people dedicated their life to money only, they think money is everything. If we view this from religious and social views, it is totally wrong. Too much expecting for money may lead to a decrease in an individual's morale/manners. He will value everything according to the money side only. This type of person will be fully stressed because he only thinks about money.

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It can be said that the influence of money is currently very strong, people are only motivated for money so that without money they will be quiet or do the things they like, the other side of course will make the social value disappear because what is thought is the value of money that will be obtained if you do something .

It was a motivating factor and that was also because it was too hard to survive and live a comfortable life without money. Might be possible before but for now, everything needs money and that is how eager we are to earn money for the sake to have a good living. That is why are not going to wonder why people ask for a job, or why they work hard as this is necessary by now. In fact, rich people wanted to become richer and it was because they still wanted more, it is a financial security that most of us wanted to happen to our life.

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Quote from: Anonylz on September 16, 2022, 01:37:33 PM

Money is a motivational factor for most people but not for all. there are few people in this world who are not motivated by money, they're passionate about what they do and not the money they can earn from it.
There is nothing wrong with loving money or wanting to have it but it becomes a problem when you are obsessed and misled by it. Money can make and break you at the same time. It is better to have control of your money than to let it control you.

If you are a person without family, without relatives, and no problems, you can follow your passion without having to worry about money. But for a man who has to shoulder all the responsibilities of a child, husband, and father, money will be the first priority, passion is nothing if it does not generate money for you.

If you want to do charity, you still need money, but you can harm people to get money. Money is what lies between good and evil, our job is to control them, not let them control us.

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Is money really the motivating factor or is there a root to this? Ex, are you motivated by money or the desire to provide for self or family? One could realize it takes money to do this, and money becomes a means to end and the motivation is actually to be a provider.

This is a good take. People are only motivated to do things when there is a something that they want to achieve, otherwise they won't push themselves just to get what they need or do what they have to do. For money, we only want to obtain it because we wanted to buy something else with it. Basically money provides us with everything that we need and want so long as we have enough of it, or even an excess of it (the more, the better). Money only becomes the motivating factor when we want to purchase something, otherwise, we'll be motivated by something else.

Precisely. It’s not that money is our motivation, but it’s the purpose that we want to achieve once we have money onhand. As inflation gets high from time to time, and so the need for money increases too. But if we can live in a place where money is no longer needed anymore, I would rather choose it but unfortunately, money is everything today as you can have all the material things you wanted if you have good amount of money.

We know that having money could buy everything if we do speak about material but there are things which cant really be bought by money but on the other hand we do know that happiness could really be bought by
money which its really that impossible that we wont really be that aiming for reaching out that goal on having that financial freedom that we do keep on thriving for.What are the things that we are trying to achieve
on doing hard days work? For sure we are aiming for more income which it would really be just normal on having those kind of considerations and making it as a motivation to continue to work hard and smart.
So i cant really blame out people on having those kind of mindset and fix priorities in life on acquiring money.

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Is money really the motivating factor or is there a root to this? Ex, are you motivated by money or the desire to provide for self or family? One could realize it takes money to do this, and money becomes a means to end and the motivation is actually to be a provider.

This is a good take. People are only motivated to do things when there is a something that they want to achieve, otherwise they won't push themselves just to get what they need or do what they have to do. For money, we only want to obtain it because we wanted to buy something else with it. Basically money provides us with everything that we need and want so long as we have enough of it, or even an excess of it (the more, the better). Money only becomes the motivating factor when we want to purchase something, otherwise, we'll be motivated by something else.

Precisely. It’s not that money is our motivation, but it’s the purpose that we want to achieve once we have money onhand. As inflation gets high from time to time, and so the need for money increases too. But if we can live in a place where money is no longer needed anymore, I would rather choose it but unfortunately, money is everything today as you can have all the material things you wanted if you have good amount of money.

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Quote from: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on September 19, 2022, 03:53:20 AM

To meet the needs of life we need money and of course we can't get it just sitting around and it needs work,
There are many ways to make money, either online or offline.
money is not everything but everything needs money

True, but money is still not everything and that is the essence. There are things in this life that money cannot buy and such things should be cherished while they last, like friends and family, good times with the folks. Money is only a part of what shapes these things and it can make things become better but if not used diligently can ruin a lot of things too.

One should not be trying to earn money just because it leads people or that people follow it. They will be misled and this happens when scammers are showing off their lifestyles on youtube and all and they easily fool people, with their lavish stuff.

Rather enjoy the simple things in life while making sure to earn with diligence.

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Quote from: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on September 19, 2022, 03:53:20 AM

To meet the needs of life we need money and of course we can't get it just sitting around and it needs work,
There are many ways to make money, either online or offline.
money is not everything but everything needs money

I do agree that everything needs money. All those people who say that money doesn't bring happiness are people who do not know where to look for it. Even on the worst parts of life, even if you are about to die from cancer, you could literally spend millions to make the transition from life to afterlife easier and not troubled, whereas you would literally be suffering and dying in agony if you are poor.

People act as if poor people do not have problems unrelated to money in their life, they have family dying too, they have sickness too, they have love pain too, and yet they face all those ALSO face economical problems. I rather be rich and unhappy then poor and face life.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on September 17, 2022, 10:52:29 AM

Generally all of us know money is the most important thing for human life.

Quote from: Jiovanni on September 02, 2022, 08:42:35 AM

Money will always lead you astray, but it will follow you well.

Indeed, money can change the character and nature of human beings themselves, but misguided and good for humans depends on the perspective of how to assess and view money itself, For me, it is difficult to define money, because everyone has a different view of money, either how to use it or how to find it.

According to my understanding many types of people can be influenced and can not be influenced by money.
Example:
The type of person who is indifferent to money, for this type of person rarely talks about money, they think that money can have a bad influence on them, they use the money sparingly and as necessary.
There are people who have the type of prestige, this is the worst type of character ever, people like this are mostly they are often enslaved by money for themselves, unnecessary and excessive spending.

money gives power and its true - Money is the only thing which make the life easier for this you have to work smart
Either you have be very sharp minded or you have to find different ways to earn money. The multiple ways of earning money is the best of all technique

To meet the needs of life we need money and of course we can't get it just sitting around and it needs work,
There are many ways to make money, either online or offline.
money is not everything but everything needs money

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Quote from: Jiovanni on September 02, 2022, 08:42:35 AM

Money is a good follower, but is a poor leader.

Money will always lead you astray, but it will follow you well.

Any man that seeks to follow money becomes misled.
Money is meant to follow you, while you are meant to follow value. Create value, solve problems, and do it well, you'll attract people to follow you; remember, money follows people with value.

What's your take on this?

In our generation today, most people are followers of money or slaves to money. There is, of course, that they can manage the money correctly, so they are not the ones who follow the money, but the money follows those who manage it.

Yes, money is important in this day and age, but we as individuals should not let ourselves think that we cannot live without money, because that is not true.

Although it was only done in this age, money becomes the way for us to get or buy what is needed for our family and other things that we need every day of our lives.

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In general, the statement is partly true. I would argue that it is not so much the money that motivates as what can be achieved with it.

But yes, you can say that it is what motivates people to work, for example. In ancient societies, where there was no money and barter was used, what motivated people was to be able to eat in order to survive, as well as to have a place to sleep and to be able to serve themselves. Those basic needs today are paid for with money, and then the non-necessary activities that we like, such as leisure, holidays, and so on, are also paid for with money.

So yes, it is the motivating factor, but mostly because of what can be achieved with it.

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Quote from: Jiovanni on September 02, 2022, 08:42:35 AM

MONEY IS THE MOTIVATING FACTOR
What's your take on this?

Depends. For most people who are struggling financially as these people has not been paid well for what they deserve to be paid of, money will going to be one of their primary motivator. I personally can speak on behalf of these people here in my country who worked underpaid, like 80% of the people employed here are underpaid. So, yeah it's safe to say Money is the fuel that keeps them motivated.

On the other hand, money and motivation for the fortunate and rich ones are two different things. Rich people tend to value their business, material things, and of course people around them, and that what's keep them motivated.

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Generally all of us know money is the most important thing for human life.

Quote from: Jiovanni on September 02, 2022, 08:42:35 AM

Money will always lead you astray, but it will follow you well.

Indeed, money can change the character and nature of human beings themselves, but misguided and good for humans depends on the perspective of how to assess and view money itself, For me, it is difficult to define money, because everyone has a different view of money, either how to use it or how to find it.

According to my understanding many types of people can be influenced and can not be influenced by money.
Example:
The type of person who is indifferent to money, for this type of person rarely talks about money, they think that money can have a bad influence on them, they use the money sparingly and as necessary.
There are people who have the type of prestige, this is the worst type of character ever, people like this are mostly they are often enslaved by money for themselves, unnecessary and excessive spending.

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The influence of money is too strong, maybe only a few people don't really think that money is everything, nowadays all things should be judged by money, even the easiest measure of happiness is money, it is difficult to be happy when we are hungry, many debts, etc., but with money then 95% of happiness we have got.

A few people who don't think that money is everything either have a lot of money or live in nature, under the radar!

Let's be real here, we need money if we wish to have some "normal" life! So yes, money is the motivating factor, we need money to buy things we need/like for that "normal" life. But what's the next question? Is there enough? You bought yourself a new tv/phone/you name it, but you wish for an even better one? You have a house but you need a bigger one? That desire that drives people (ambition) to have more and more is what creates a problem... global problem! In order for some to have more many others has to suffer...

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Money is a motivational factor for most people but not for all. there are few people in this world who are not motivated by money, they're passionate about what they do and not the money they can earn from it.
There is nothing wrong with loving money or wanting to have it but it becomes a problem when you are obsessed and misled by it. Money can make and break you at the same time. It is better to have control of your money than to let it control you.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on September 15, 2022, 05:40:51 AM

It can be said that at this time the real king is money, people do anything of course with the motivation of money, even many people commit murder, war and other crimes, of course the biggest motivation is money, but we who can think smart will certainly make money with things that do not violate religion and law.

Smart work and not hard work is the key here.

Of course, you have to pay for your daily bread using money and the hunger pangs are the reasons why people turn to the evil side in trying to make money when in utter bankruptcy. Money should only be a mode of transactions, human relations have a much more important part in life than money itself. Financially, nobody is free till the grave, so accept the income that one gets as a blessing and use it to spend on things that you need and want.

There can be a control over the greed and that is important here. This can control corruption and bribery but in most places this is difficult to attain.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on September 15, 2022, 05:40:51 AM

It can be said that at this time the real king is money, people do anything of course with the motivation of money, even many people commit murder, war and other crimes, of course the biggest motivation is money, but we who can think smart will certainly make money with things that do not violate religion and law.

it is undeniable that many people are willing to do anything just to get money. sometimes their logic becomes only focused on money. and money has become a strong motivation in man. but if we think further then we will think for what the money was collected. and what goals will and want to achieve with the money. then the answer is to meet the needs of life. and we also have to think after the needs of our lives are met then what is the real purpose of our struggle to meet the needs of life. then the answer is twofold, namely to survive and people living only want to get and feel happiness in this world and in the world after (the hereafter).

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