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legendary
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October 23, 2017, 02:17:26 PM
#72
World without money can't exist, this is utopia. Money will change different forms and values but it will always exist, this way or another. Some long time ago people only exchanged different goods with each other because the money wasn't invested yet. Hope you don't want to live in such era.
Bitcoin could be substitute for one kind of money in virtual world but still it can't replace fiat money in whole and for long time this will not change.
legendary
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October 23, 2017, 02:11:48 PM
#71

What if we scrapped money altogether and just gave everybody what they wanted?

Don't we have all the technology and resources to make this happen? It could also mean less crimes would happen then too.

And when you woke up, it was morning.
Everything that you own is produced somehow. Even if it is by the mean of a magical 3d printer that never runs out of material there must be somebody who makes that who will ask for money in order to buy parts and pay it's workers. And from this the chain goes on.

Fantasy and nothing else.
A society with no money and with no barter system is a society with nothing or poor as hell.
Are you sure you want to live in such a world?

I think they mean no hard cash, just digital....

No, he means no money whatsoever.
We are all fairies and by magic we produce whatever we need so there is no need to buy anything.

Universal basic income sort of fits this but it is still money.  I don't think we can ever do away with some form of money system until we as a race get to the point where we can replicate what we need from he fabric of space.

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newbie
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October 23, 2017, 01:39:56 PM
#70
What do you mean moneyless?
Are you communists? Even at hard-core communist countries money exist.  Roll Eyes
Where there is even one free market (for anything), there must be a medium of exchange.

Please keep in mind that every deeper move into electronic payment systems,
is "cutting" our privacy. If paper money or "real" coins dissappear,
big brother start to know your all transactions and all about you.

But this "smartphone" generation "share" everything about them and upload everything to the net.
Data grabbers are having never-ending "orgasm" seeing this.
Amen! Smiley



I think they mean no hard cash, just digital....
full member
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October 23, 2017, 01:36:36 PM
#69
What do you mean moneyless?
Are you communists? Even at hard-core communist countries money exist.  Roll Eyes
Where there is even one free market (for anything), there must be a medium of exchange.

Please keep in mind that every deeper move into electronic payment systems,
is "cutting" our privacy. If paper money or "real" coins dissappear,
big brother start to know your all transactions and all about you.

But this "smartphone" generation "share" everything about them and upload everything to the net.
Data grabbers are having never-ending "orgasm" seeing this.
Amen! Smiley

newbie
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October 23, 2017, 01:24:40 PM
#68
Money is power, and you cannot do good without power.It’s what you do with it that makes it either good or bad, and you need it to have a significant positive impact in your community or in the world.

You have goals, dreams and desires, whether it’s to travel the world, have a luxurious home or help those in need. You cannot make those dreams a living breathing physical reality without money. Money allows to free up your time. Money allows to free up your mind (if you are detached from it). Money allows to free up your creativity.

If you had all the money in the world, and money wasn’t an issue, how would you want to live your life? What would your days look like? How would you spend your vacations? What would you eat? Where would you eat? Which car would you drive? If you are connected to your higher spirit, you would get bored not contributing anything with your skills and talents, so what would you want to achieve with your life?

so we can see that ,our society is not count him who is money less.
full member
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October 23, 2017, 11:00:59 AM
#67
No, I don't  think it would be a good idea. If there would be a moneyless society people will stop working and get all the stuff for free. Also it would be bad for some people who work as they'll think they're not getting rewarded enough for working. It would just make the economy worse.
newbie
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October 23, 2017, 09:34:21 AM
#66
Hi,

I wanted to run this by you and see what you say.

What if we scrapped money altogether and just gave everybody what they wanted?

I know it sounds ridiculous, and everybody would just go for 100 cars and 100 fancy houses, but if you think about it, if you could get everything you wanted, all those things wouldn't be as valuable anymore, and it would lose it's "richness" appeal and people would be bored by it after a while and just settle with what they actually needed. Don't we have all the technology and resources to make this happen? It could also mean less crimes would happen then too.

Sidenote: I love the idea of bitcoin so I don't really want to ruin bitcoin, but hey, maybe we could go there with bitcoin somehow... Smiley
With one word i can say you have a heart of hero,but the truth is the world donot want a hero.They only expect them in marvel and dc movies Tongue
surely if the wealth share equaly in the world the crime will be reduced .But why why the reach billgates will share this ?
why someone will even share that kind of technology for free unless its you .Buddy its a tough ask .being so realistic we can achive this with technology.But also that is not possible as we are human and we are greedy.
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October 23, 2017, 09:34:14 AM
#65
Having a moneyless society is good on its own right where in people would be using digital currencies like bitcoin as a replacement for money. But I don't think that will be happening any moment now or in the next few years. It is because people are very sceptical to change and I don't think that they will be adapting it right away.
sr. member
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October 23, 2017, 09:16:37 AM
#64
I won't miss paper money, but what worries me more. If the world will go completely to electronic payments, we will open your personal data to everyone. Our purchases give us more information than you think. Where to get this information and who will use it is a big problem for me.
member
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October 23, 2017, 09:08:51 AM
#63
First off, we might be able to give everybody basic essentials like food, clothing and shelter, but we just can't give people everything they want, like 100 cars and 100 fancy houses. There isn't enough land, especially when you factor in the fact that we'd have to extract the metals needed to make the cars. And, second, an economy in which there is a common medium exchange will always be more efficient because we don't have to go running around making a complicated series of trades to get what we want. Seashells used to be used as currency; the exact form that a medium of exchange doesn't matter all that much as long as it's something that everybody agrees as value because the units of the medium of exchange are basically a place-holder for value. And it was understood that it's not free: If you wanted more seashells, you had to either go out to the beach to collect them, or provide something that other people might be willing to trade seashells for. So our current economic system may not be "perfect" by the standards of people who want everybody to be equal at the finish line, but at least it's incentive for people to get off their lazy duffs and provide something of value that other people might be willing to pay for.
member
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October 23, 2017, 08:18:14 AM
#62
Universal basic income is a bit like this I guess, but things are a scarce resource and always will/have been. You cant give everyone anything they want simply because the amount doesnt exist.
Universal basic income sort of fits this but it is still money.  I don't think we can ever do away with some form of money system until we as a race get to the point where we can replicate what we need from he fabric of space.
Cashless or paperless society since the time when we improvized the monetary system from barter sytem to paper money and now we introduced virtual currency because we keep on innovating it might be the next paradigm shift on how to use money.
legendary
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October 23, 2017, 07:59:43 AM
#61
Universal basic income is a bit like this I guess, but things are a scarce resource and always will/have been. You cant give everyone anything they want simply because the amount doesnt exist.
Universal basic income sort of fits this but it is still money.  I don't think we can ever do away with some form of money system until we as a race get to the point where we can replicate what we need from he fabric of space.
sr. member
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October 23, 2017, 07:56:37 AM
#60
Universal basic income is a bit like this I guess, but things are a scarce resource and always will/have been. You cant give everyone anything they want simply because the amount doesnt exist.
newbie
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October 23, 2017, 07:48:14 AM
#59
Very amusing. I shall inquire more.
hero member
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September 30, 2017, 03:48:12 AM
#58
Hi,

I wanted to run this by you and see what you say.

What if we scrapped money altogether and just gave everybody what they wanted?

I know it sounds ridiculous, and everybody would just go for 100 cars and 100 fancy houses, but if you think about it, if you could get everything you wanted, all those things wouldn't be as valuable anymore, and it would lose it's "richness" appeal and people would be bored by it after a while and just settle with what they actually needed. Don't we have all the technology and resources to make this happen? It could also mean less crimes would happen then too.

Sidenote: I love the idea of bitcoin so I don't really want to ruin bitcoin, but hey, maybe we could go there with bitcoin somehow... Smiley

Scrapping money all together will not stop the social imbalance in the system because even before the establishment of money in the world, the time of trade by barter has been fraught with several problems and with this your proposal, it means going back to the stone age where you or I don't want to be for any reason.

To me, the social system is not perfect but its still OK compared to when money is eradicated it then create a system of questions that perfect answers cannot be sought among which will be:

What will be the basis to share?

Who are those that will be saddled with the responsibility to share and their qualifications?

What will be my one condition to meet to be part of the lot? Do I get automatic slot for being a member of the community or by working among several issues.
newbie
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September 30, 2017, 03:13:05 AM
#57
Money is just a convention used to regulate commercial transactions. In the ancient times it was useless because people lived in small villages, commerce was not developed so they used barter to exchange stuff between them.
newbie
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September 30, 2017, 03:01:41 AM
#56
There is a value of each and everything, then it can not give it for free; I do not agree with you. Yes I know. Back in the days there were business things.
Money is just a convention used to regulate commercial transactions. In ancient times, it was useless because people living in small villages, trade did not develop so they traded between them. If everyone has what they want, there can be no problem if the whole society helps. Since everyone gets what they want, there may not be many problems. Unless most become lazy ... What if you wanted to buy a car, but it would cost 10,000 pieces of bread? That would be very difficult to implement. thank you  Huh Huh Huh Grin
newbie
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September 11, 2017, 10:45:41 AM
#55
if this will ever happen, you will see how greedy people can get.
sr. member
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September 07, 2017, 12:59:53 AM
#54
i find this post "MARXIST" at it's best, but you know there's nothing wrong with it, i know you just wanted a gentle world for everybody. but for the situation right now, this will remain as the John Lennon Song said "IMAGINE". I know nothing's impossible but i am only talking bout the reality.
newbie
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September 07, 2017, 12:40:33 AM
#53
Money makes the world goes round they say, a moneyless society at this day and age may cause chaos  IF the resources are not enough to provide what they want (yes, want and not needs as people will not be getting things they need only)

People today are different from people before (long time back when barter exists.)

Greed is the main enemy of a moneyless society nowadays.

Reality bites but others envy others even in small things they have, how much more if we can get all things for free.

People will not stop acquiring cars, houses etc. as people are drawn to material things already, and if that happens, there will scarcity of resources.

People will then fight over things that are in few numbers and so on and so forth...

Well, I may be thinking worst, but this is what reality is :-(


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