Money is just a convention used to regulate commercial transactions. In the ancient times it was useless because people lived in small villages, commerce was not developed so they used barter to exchange stuff between them. Nowadays it is impossible to do (at least on a world-scale) because commerce and markets are too gone too far...
Commerce is producing all kind of crazy things. "Hey, you want a fidget spinner? Sure, here you go. We apparently have so many resources we can create these things too." 
Topic: Moneyless Society - page 4. (Read 1252 times)
Hay, why are you fantasizing too much? ... We must try before getting something ,, that's life. Nothing is instant, and bitcoin ,, we have to fight to be successful, not everyone who jumps in bitcoin become rich ..
This is just a thought experiment where the whole idea about "getting rich" doesn't exist anymore since everybody get what they want. 
If we give everyone what they want, then what's the meaning of life by that point? Let's assume, people can have what they wanted easily wherein there's no work required for them, the level of cooperation we have today will significantly reduce. People will never work unless it is on their best interest (non-monetary based interest) and consider the number of people doing their life choices based on money.
And thinking crimes will be reduced when you let people have what they want is short-term planning and it's kind of infant-minded. Humans will always find ways to harm each other one way or another, because on any society whether it is old or new there's always disagreements. And we did our best to settle this disagreements through the systems we have created. In my opinion, all we need is balance.
Meaning of life would be to live your life. Spend time with friends and family. Travel and see the world (for free of course). Meet new people. I think the lazyness nature of humans might be a problem yes. And, yes, there will always be crime, but if you could get everything you wanted, certain crimes would most likely disappear. And thinking crimes will be reduced when you let people have what they want is short-term planning and it's kind of infant-minded. Humans will always find ways to harm each other one way or another, because on any society whether it is old or new there's always disagreements. And we did our best to settle this disagreements through the systems we have created. In my opinion, all we need is balance.
Hi,
I wanted to run this by you and see what you say.
What if we scrapped money altogether and just gave everybody what they wanted?
I know it sounds ridiculous, and everybody would just go for 100 cars and 100 fancy houses, but if you think about it, if you could get everything you wanted, all those things wouldn't be as valuable anymore, and it would lose it's "richness" appeal and people would be bored by it after a while and just settle with what they actually needed. Don't we have all the technology and resources to make this happen? It could also mean less crimes would happen then too.
Sidenote: I love the idea of bitcoin so I don't really want to ruin bitcoin, but hey, maybe we could go there with bitcoin somehow...
I wanted to run this by you and see what you say.
What if we scrapped money altogether and just gave everybody what they wanted?
I know it sounds ridiculous, and everybody would just go for 100 cars and 100 fancy houses, but if you think about it, if you could get everything you wanted, all those things wouldn't be as valuable anymore, and it would lose it's "richness" appeal and people would be bored by it after a while and just settle with what they actually needed. Don't we have all the technology and resources to make this happen? It could also mean less crimes would happen then too.
Sidenote: I love the idea of bitcoin so I don't really want to ruin bitcoin, but hey, maybe we could go there with bitcoin somehow...
You mean you want to remove all concepts of money? That means you are removing fiat, gold, cryptocurrency and other forms and mediums of value. I don't think it is possible anymore. That would mean we would come back to the old ages were people did barter for everything. It is highly impractical and will not reflect the current times. What if you want to buy a car, but it would cost 10,000 pieces of bread? That would be hard to do.
The idea would be that you don't need to buy a car. You would just get a car as there is probably quite the abundance of them. Since most wouldn't really need a car everyday to "go to work to make money" anymore, I could imagine there will be plenty available. At least in America. Unless everybody want to drive a car everyday for some reason.
If we give everyone what they want, then what's the meaning of life by that point? Let's assume, people can have what they wanted easily wherein there's no work required for them, the level of cooperation we have today will significantly reduce. People will never work unless it is on their best interest (non-monetary based interest) and consider the number of people doing their life choices based on money.
And thinking crimes will be reduced when you let people have what they want is short-term planning and it's kind of infant-minded. Humans will always find ways to harm each other one way or another, because on any society whether it is old or new there's always disagreements. And we did our best to settle this disagreements through the systems we have created. In my opinion, all we need is balance.
And thinking crimes will be reduced when you let people have what they want is short-term planning and it's kind of infant-minded. Humans will always find ways to harm each other one way or another, because on any society whether it is old or new there's always disagreements. And we did our best to settle this disagreements through the systems we have created. In my opinion, all we need is balance.
Hi,
I wanted to run this by you and see what you say.
What if we scrapped money altogether and just gave everybody what they wanted?
I know it sounds ridiculous, and everybody would just go for 100 cars and 100 fancy houses, but if you think about it, if you could get everything you wanted, all those things wouldn't be as valuable anymore, and it would lose it's "richness" appeal and people would be bored by it after a while and just settle with what they actually needed. Don't we have all the technology and resources to make this happen? It could also mean less crimes would happen then too.
Sidenote: I love the idea of bitcoin so I don't really want to ruin bitcoin, but hey, maybe we could go there with bitcoin somehow...
I wanted to run this by you and see what you say.
What if we scrapped money altogether and just gave everybody what they wanted?
I know it sounds ridiculous, and everybody would just go for 100 cars and 100 fancy houses, but if you think about it, if you could get everything you wanted, all those things wouldn't be as valuable anymore, and it would lose it's "richness" appeal and people would be bored by it after a while and just settle with what they actually needed. Don't we have all the technology and resources to make this happen? It could also mean less crimes would happen then too.
Sidenote: I love the idea of bitcoin so I don't really want to ruin bitcoin, but hey, maybe we could go there with bitcoin somehow...
You mean you want to remove all concepts of money? That means you are removing fiat, gold, cryptocurrency and other forms and mediums of value. I don't think it is possible anymore. That would mean we would come back to the old ages were people did barter for everything. It is highly impractical and will not reflect the current times. What if you want to buy a car, but it would cost 10,000 pieces of bread? That would be hard to do.
Hay, why are you fantasizing too much? ... We must try before getting something ,, that's life. Nothing is instant, and bitcoin ,, we have to fight to be successful, not everyone who jumps in bitcoin become rich ..
This is just a thought experiment where the whole idea about "getting rich" doesn't exist anymore since everybody get what they want. 
Money is just a convention used to regulate commercial transactions. In the ancient times it was useless because people lived in small villages, commerce was not developed so they used barter to exchange stuff between them. Nowadays it is impossible to do (at least on a world-scale) because commerce and markets are too gone too far...
Hay, why are you fantasizing too much? ... We must try before getting something ,, that's life. Nothing is instant, and bitcoin ,, we have to fight to be successful, not everyone who jumps in bitcoin become rich ..
Yes, I know. Back in the days there were trading things.
And this is meant to be a discussion to see if it could be possible now as we have progressed so much with technology. We have abundance of food in places. I suppose the issue could possibly be that someone has to "work" for producing the resources. But still. If everybody got what they wanted, that might not be much of a problem if the society as whole helped out. Since everybody get what they want, there might not be much of issues. Unless most become lazy...
And this is meant to be a discussion to see if it could be possible now as we have progressed so much with technology. We have abundance of food in places. I suppose the issue could possibly be that someone has to "work" for producing the resources. But still. If everybody got what they wanted, that might not be much of a problem if the society as whole helped out. Since everybody get what they want, there might not be much of issues. Unless most become lazy...
There were barter system in the past wherein people used to exchange one commodity for another one. After many centuries we have developed the money system for the better transaction (trading) and easy financial activities. There is a value of each and every thing, then its impossible to offer it for free; i don't agree with you.
Hi,
I wanted to run this by you and see what you say.
What if we scrapped money altogether and just gave everybody what they wanted?
I know it sounds ridiculous, and everybody would just go for 100 cars and 100 fancy houses, but if you think about it, if you could get everything you wanted, all those things wouldn't be as valuable anymore, and it would lose it's "richness" appeal and people would be bored by it after a while and just settle with what they actually needed. Don't we have all the technology and resources to make this happen? It could also mean less crimes would happen then too.
Sidenote: I love the idea of bitcoin so I don't really want to ruin bitcoin, but hey, maybe we could go there with bitcoin somehow...
I wanted to run this by you and see what you say.
What if we scrapped money altogether and just gave everybody what they wanted?
I know it sounds ridiculous, and everybody would just go for 100 cars and 100 fancy houses, but if you think about it, if you could get everything you wanted, all those things wouldn't be as valuable anymore, and it would lose it's "richness" appeal and people would be bored by it after a while and just settle with what they actually needed. Don't we have all the technology and resources to make this happen? It could also mean less crimes would happen then too.
Sidenote: I love the idea of bitcoin so I don't really want to ruin bitcoin, but hey, maybe we could go there with bitcoin somehow...
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