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legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
December 20, 2024, 02:20:36 PM
I think its quite the opposite considering how many times this topic (badges for reporters) came up since I've been on the forum. Those who spend a lot of time on forum tend to start taking it way too serously so even something as trivial as a reporter badge starts to look important. 
I said ''most'' of the members, not all. Wink
We can agree that majority of members are not taking forum seriously, or we would have much better overall activity.
Small group of people is using forum as a source of income, and only tiny few are trying to do something good with reporting spam.
For example in last report statistic we dropped from 1444 reports to 1247 in latest report.
global moderator
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December 19, 2024, 06:30:19 AM
Period Nov 10 - Dec 10. In this period, 1247 reports handled as good, 90 handled as bad, 70 unhandled.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 5937
December 04, 2024, 11:34:11 AM
It's not important at all, and the chances of something like that being implemented are probably very small - but I don't see why you think a discussion on that topic is trivial?
I was merely explaining to dkbit98 why I disagree with him when he said that badges are not important to people, because I think they are. The more time you spend in a particular place, the more it starts to matter to you, making even insignificant things feel important (being that computer game, forum or something else). I’ve been guilty of that myself, as I’m sure many others have too.


On the other hand, those who spend a lot of time on the forum (whatever that means) may be partly responsible for the fact that the forum is still there and that the same members clean it of spam, plagiarism, AI garbage and malware links so that others can have a more pleasant experience on the same.
I totally agree on that part and nowhere in my post I implied anything against importance of reporting.
legendary
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December 04, 2024, 11:06:51 AM
~snip~
I think its quite the opposite considering how many times this topic (badges for reporters) came up since I've been on the forum. Those who spend a lot of time on forum tend to start taking it way too serously so even something as trivial as a reporter badge starts to look important. 


It's not important at all, and the chances of something like that being implemented are probably very small - but I don't see why you think a discussion on that topic is trivial? On the other hand, those who spend a lot of time on the forum (whatever that means) may be partly responsible for the fact that the forum is still there and that the same members clean it of spam, plagiarism, AI garbage and malware links so that others can have a more pleasant experience on the same.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 5937
December 04, 2024, 10:30:02 AM
Interesting concept, they would finally get a chance to do something good for a change Wink
Unless they were the ones who wrote those shitposts with their alts in the first place.  Tongue


I don't think most of the members care about badges in their profiles
I think its quite the opposite considering how many times this topic (badges for reporters) came up since I've been on the forum. Those who spend a lot of time on forum tend to start taking it way too serously so even something as trivial as a reporter badge starts to look important. 
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 522
December 04, 2024, 02:12:52 AM
A member rank account, I'm sure he knew what he was doing, stopped after I created a merit thread on the local board and finally disappeared.

A member rank is not enough to understand everything. Or better to say if they did not spend much time on the forum, probably they don't understand it well. There is a thread from Loyce with the title "Report good posts to merit sources". That user found a report button under the posts so he used it  Cheesy Cheesy I don't see anything wrong here. I would do the same thing if I were him  Grin Grin Grin

I mean, this could happen due to misunderstanding. Don't get me wrong BTW, I am trying to understand what else he could think of when he decided to use report to moderator button.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 4265
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December 04, 2024, 01:52:03 AM

I still think that its also can be a good thing that instant for getting a badge , it would be nice to get some sMerits based on Monthly Reports.


This is a fair point because if someone sees low-value posts, they will probably also see good posts that may be missed by merit sources. In addition, those who want to cheat will have to work hard, since moderators will always be able to see how many reports there are and from what ranks the reports come, and conclude whether the spam post was created intentionally or not.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
December 03, 2024, 03:12:15 PM
That just means the cheater will use multiple accounts. Imagine that: cheaters reporting and cleaning spam to get paid Cheesy
Interesting concept, they would finally get a chance to do something good for a change Wink

To be honest, I don't think that money incentive is even needed to boost reporting numbers as badges would probably do the trick. Then again, badges could also be manipulated in the same way, and could be  one of the reasons why he haven't seen them yet.   
I don't think most of the members care about badges in their profiles, but there are few exceptions.
for example designer pizza badge looks cool, so I guess hammer would look good for top reporters.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 5937
December 03, 2024, 02:12:21 PM
My opinion is that money should not be involved in this story, because it would bring more problems than benefits.
Couldn't agree more, not every action on the forum should be monetized.


Why so far we don't have badges for best reporters, and on the other hand we have badges for those who bake the best pizza or contribute to the forum by revealing security flaws or winning a competition?
That's a good question, but for whatever reason theymos is reluctant to implement them. As for pizza winning badges, I guess he considers them more trivial, therefore not so  much thought was needed into introducing them.

legendary
Activity: 3178
Merit: 3295
December 03, 2024, 01:38:25 PM
Cheaters will create Alts to spam, use main account to report same posts- it would be abused somehow.
Thats exactly what i have written a few days ago , but on the other hand this can be handled easy for looking at the IP Adress thats used from the Account.
There are for sure some tools that Global Moderators and Admins and the Recovery Team have that get rid of that problem that all goes right as it should be.
But there will be some Users that try to abuse it , for sure.

My opinion is that money should not be involved in this story, because it would bring more problems than benefits.
For me personally, it's better if there is no financial motivation because that would only attract those who would do that "job" for the money, and not for any benefit to the forum.
I fully agree with that , that there should be not any money or financial motivation be involved in that.

Why so far we don't have badges for best reporters, and on the other hand we have badges for those who bake the best pizza or contribute to the forum by revealing security flaws or winning a competition?
I think that it is simply on a very low list of admin priorities, and I will repeat again that some probably don't want that badge - just like they didn't want to be mentioned in the annual Top Reporters report.
There are with certainty someone that dont want to be mentioned or have the badge showing public.
But i guess thats just a few.

I have a few Ideas how to make it attractive to other or new users to report more.
I like the Idea that maybe only Legendarys can receive a badge for reporting , as this can be a reason that lower Ranks start reporting more or take it seriously.

I still think that its also can be a good thing that instant for getting a badge , it would be nice to get some sMerits based on Monthly Reports.
It would be maybe a nice compensation from inactive and not anymore active Meritsources that we have around the whole Forum.

For those who want to take part in the whole reporter thing (badge or sMerit receive) an application can also be made.
An example can be like about to receive a monthly sMerit : If you have 80 good reports in a month you will be receive 8 Merits or lower that you can give to other Users.
There are so many options but its just an Idea , maybe theymos can write something about what he thinks about it , would be nice to know.
legendary
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December 03, 2024, 11:22:30 AM
To be honest, I don't think that money incentive is even needed to boost reporting numbers as badges would probably do the trick. Then again, badges could also be manipulated in the same way, and could be  one of the reasons why he haven't seen them yet.   

My opinion is that money should not be involved in this story, because it would bring more problems than benefits. For me personally, it's better if there is no financial motivation because that would only attract those who would do that "job" for the money, and not for any benefit to the forum.

Why so far we don't have badges for best reporters, and on the other hand we have badges for those who bake the best pizza or contribute to the forum by revealing security flaws or winning a competition? I think that it is simply on a very low list of admin priorities, and I will repeat again that some probably don't want that badge - just like they didn't want to be mentioned in the annual Top Reporters report.

As for manipulation, for me the solution is simple - the number of good reports in order for someone to get a badge does not need to be public or fixed - it can simply be set in a range from, say, a minimum of 5000 to 10 000 good reports, something similar to the activity required for Legendary rank.
staff
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1610
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December 03, 2024, 10:04:44 AM
Just kidding. I don't know if that user is a newbie. If they are newbie, probably they did not understand the purpose of the report to moderator button. But if they are some kind of established member or they have been around for some time, then probably they thought this is the quick way to get attention from the moderators as they handle the reports.

A member rank account, I'm sure he knew what he was doing, stopped after I created a merit thread on the local board and finally disappeared.

That just means the cheater will use multiple accounts. Imagine that: cheaters reporting and cleaning spam to get paid Cheesy

Cheaters will create Alts to spam, use main account to report same posts- it would be abused somehow.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 5937
December 03, 2024, 07:45:19 AM
No big money means no big cheater, and I doubt anyone would go through all the hustle to cheat with reports if they could get banned as a warning  Wink
To be honest, I don't think that money incentive is even needed to boost reporting numbers as badges would probably do the trick. Then again, badges could also be manipulated in the same way, and could be  one of the reasons why he haven't seen them yet.   

legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
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December 03, 2024, 07:26:33 AM
it doesn't really matter because ''winner'' would be selected randomly
That just means the cheater will use multiple accounts. Imagine that: cheaters reporting and cleaning spam to get paid Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
December 02, 2024, 05:42:46 PM
You can be 100% sure that some people would create alts whose only job would be to shitposts, so they can their report those postys with their main account. Whatever can be abused around here will be abused.
Probably true, but it doesn't really matter because ''winner'' would be selected randomly, and reward should be only symbolic.
No big money means no big cheater, and I doubt anyone would go through all the hustle to cheat with reports if they could get banned as a warning  Wink


hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 522
December 01, 2024, 06:15:52 AM
Very weird behavior and fastest way to earn low report accuracy, I guess he thought it was the fastest way to gain my attention since I'm active on the report page. Grin

Probably they are inspired by this line; Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.

Just kidding. I don't know if that user is a newbie. If they are newbie, probably they did not understand the purpose of the report to moderator button. But if they are some kind of established member or they have been around for some time, then probably they thought this is the quick way to get attention from the moderators as they handle the reports.
staff
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1610
The Naija & BSFL Sherrif 📛
November 30, 2024, 06:46:44 PM
On my local board, a user was using the "report to moderator" button to report their posts for merits, which were marked as bad/inaccurate, he might be doing the same thing on the English board; I'm sure his accuracy score is terrible as hell.

It is good that he did not actually begging in public place and did not asked any merit source to review their posts. Instead, they want the forum staffs to review their posts which make sense to them.  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Very weird behavior and fastest way to earn low report accuracy, I guess he thought it was the fastest way to gain my attention since I'm active on the report page. Grin
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 522
November 30, 2024, 02:11:48 AM
On my local board, a user was using the "report to moderator" button to report their posts for merits, which were marked as bad/inaccurate, he might be doing the same thing on the English board; I'm sure his accuracy score is terrible as hell.

It is good that he did not actually begging in public place and did not asked any merit source to review their posts. Instead, they want the forum staffs to review their posts which make sense to them.  Grin Grin Grin Grin

I know this is funny, but from a newbie members perspective, probably he thought this is the correct way to report it for merits. LOL. I am sure he would lose his ability to report if they were on the other forum. But luckily, they are on BitcoinTalk and they would be able to report as long as they want.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 5937
November 30, 2024, 12:44:23 AM
This is not a bad idea and I think this would actually increase number of reports, but if there is any financial reward than we can expect abuse from some members.
You can be 100% sure that some people would create alts whose only job would be to shitposts, so they can their report those postys with their main account. Whatever can be abused around here will be abused.


What are the ''right'' boards?
Altcoin board for example.


On my local board, a user was using the "report to moderator" button to report their posts for merits
staff
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1610
The Naija & BSFL Sherrif 📛
November 29, 2024, 02:41:33 PM
If there is a reward, it will be based on the report accuracy percentage as well as the number of reported posts, preventing abuse from random accounts reporting thousands of posts in an attempt to outwit the system.
I'm curious: did the user with 70% accuracy report many controversial posts? Say on the Politics board?

Could be but..... Cool

I don't see user's accuracy data; the 70% was only an illustration, but I'm sure many users have worse %. On my local board, a user was using the "report to moderator" button to report their posts for merits, which were marked as bad/inaccurate, he might be doing the same thing on the English board; I'm sure his accuracy score is terrible as hell.
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