Topic: Monthly Report Statistics - page 2. (Read 4543 times)

Thats exactly what i have written a few days ago , but on the other hand this can be handled easy for looking at the IP Adress thats used from the Account.
There are for sure some tools that Global Moderators and Admins and the Recovery Team have that get rid of that problem that all goes right as it should be.
But there will be some Users that try to abuse it , for sure.

I fully agree with that , that there should be not any money or financial motivation be involved in that.

There are with certainty someone that dont want to be mentioned or have the badge showing public.
But i guess thats just a few.

I have a few Ideas how to make it attractive to other or new users to report more.
I like the Idea that maybe only Legendarys can receive a badge for reporting , as this can be a reason that lower Ranks start reporting more or take it seriously.

I still think that its also can be a good thing that instant for getting a badge , it would be nice to get some sMerits based on Monthly Reports.
It would be maybe a nice compensation from inactive and not anymore active Meritsources that we have around the whole Forum.

For those who want to take part in the whole reporter thing (badge or sMerit receive) an application can also be made.
An example can be like about to receive a monthly sMerit : If you have 80 good reports in a month you will be receive 8 Merits or lower that you can give to other Users.
There are so many options but its just an Idea , maybe theymos can write something about what he thinks about it , would be nice to know.

My opinion is that money should not be involved in this story, because it would bring more problems than benefits. For me personally, it's better if there is no financial motivation because that would only attract those who would do that "job" for the money, and not for any benefit to the forum.

Why so far we don't have badges for best reporters, and on the other hand we have badges for those who bake the best pizza or contribute to the forum by revealing security flaws or winning a competition? I think that it is simply on a very low list of admin priorities, and I will repeat again that some probably don't want that badge - just like they didn't want to be mentioned in the annual Top Reporters report.

As for manipulation, for me the solution is simple - the number of good reports in order for someone to get a badge does not need to be public or fixed - it can simply be set in a range from, say, a minimum of 5000 to 10 000 good reports, something similar to the activity required for Legendary rank.

A member rank account, I'm sure he knew what he was doing, stopped after I created a merit thread on the local board and finally disappeared.


Cheaters will create Alts to spam, use main account to report same posts- it would be abused somehow.

To be honest, I don't think that money incentive is even needed to boost reporting numbers as badges would probably do the trick. Then again, badges could also be manipulated in the same way, and could be  one of the reasons why he haven't seen them yet.   

That just means the cheater will use multiple accounts. Imagine that: cheaters reporting and cleaning spam to get paid

Probably true, but it doesn't really matter because ''winner'' would be selected randomly, and reward should be only symbolic.
No big money means no big cheater, and I doubt anyone would go through all the hustle to cheat with reports if they could get banned as a warning 

Probably they are inspired by this line; Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.

Just kidding. I don't know if that user is a newbie. If they are newbie, probably they did not understand the purpose of the report to moderator button. But if they are some kind of established member or they have been around for some time, then probably they thought this is the quick way to get attention from the moderators as they handle the reports.

Very weird behavior and fastest way to earn low report accuracy, I guess he thought it was the fastest way to gain my attention since I'm active on the report page.

It is good that he did not actually begging in public place and did not asked any merit source to review their posts. Instead, they want the forum staffs to review their posts which make sense to them. 

I know this is funny, but from a newbie members perspective, probably he thought this is the correct way to report it for merits. LOL. I am sure he would lose his ability to report if they were on the other forum. But luckily, they are on BitcoinTalk and they would be able to report as long as they want.

You can be 100% sure that some people would create alts whose only job would be to shitposts, so they can their report those postys with their main account. Whatever can be abused around here will be abused.


Altcoin board for example.

Could be but.....

I don't see user's accuracy data; the 70% was only an illustration, but I'm sure many users have worse %. On my local board, a user was using the "report to moderator" button to report their posts for merits, which were marked as bad/inaccurate, he might be doing the same thing on the English board; I'm sure his accuracy score is terrible as hell.

This is not a bad idea and I think this would actually increase number of reports, but if there is any financial reward than we can expect abuse from some members.
If this is ever implemented it would have to be with random raffles, not related with number of reports from members.
That means that anyone with good reports could win this reward, not only members with most reports.

What are the ''right'' boards?
I only report posts in topic and boards I usually read, not really hunting for reports  
My report accuracy is currently 97%

As much as I'd like that, you'll probably see a lot more trivial reports. I could go to Off-topic right now and find hundreds of posts to report. But it feels so pointless to do.

Even making good reports isn't that hard if you go to the right boards.

I'm curious: did the user with 70% accuracy report many controversial posts? Say on the Politics board?

When its ever coming that theymos will be include something like the badge for reporting at the beginning and maybe new Users will be dont care about what the accuracy for there reports are.
A high percentage of the reports you are doing will be coming at some stage and if you know how it wshould be done.
You know that and all the other OGs here like suchmoon and many others that are long time reporters.

I think the moderators would rather have more reports that they can handle as just a few.
Lets go and keep them busy  
Making reports is easy from every device , the most are just to lazy to click that button as they dont care about.
And here is the point maybe , we should be figure out who wwe can animate new and other Users to click that button.

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Maybe a points system in the backround would be also nice.
Instant of getting payed with Bitcoin for reports it also can be made for getting sMerits monthly calculated what a amount you gave reported in a month.
For example if you have done 100 reports and all 100 are good you get 20 or 50 sMerits.
Percentage-wise, the number of reports classified as bad or unhandled are decreasing.
In addition, it should be possible for the merits to be deducted from your account if all the reports you have made in a month are bad.
This also means that the ranking of the affected users may drop if they are on the threshold of one.
Possibly this can also be changed so that the sendable merits are deducted, of course calculated as a percentage.

An Idea for the Calculation on the reports and to receive sMerits can be:

If you have 100 or 200 good reports without any bad or unhandled reports you will get 50 sMerits.
Calculation can be also done based for 1 good report you make you will be get 0,50 sMerit.

Nope, only bad reports

I don't think unhandled reports decrease accuracy percentage.

Below 70% accuracy is not a problem until the badge/incentives requirements says one must be at least 95% to be eligible. 

Print : Sometimes low accuracy % does not reflect one reporting skills - sometimes they just have loads of good reports unhandled unfortunately.


Mods are forever ready!!!!

You must have certain X number of total reports + certain accuracy % score to be eligible ( speculations)- this way the system can separate organic reporters from joblers who just want to make money.

Passion>>>>> money 

I think that as soon as people are motivated by payments for reporters, the moderators will resign . Imagine how long it will take them to go through all the reports from people who at some point decided to "make money" on reports, but never figured out how to do it right. In the words of Chymist, here on the forum, everything that could be abused will be abused .

I don't see a problem with reports if there are some points that are worth noting and for which you shouldn't expect any perks. Although I think it's easier to send reports from a computer than from a mobile. The latter seems convenient only for reading, nothing more.

It also says "one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports" which could be interpreted that being below 70% shoulnd't be a problem at all.

There's no better way to deincetivize (already low) reporting than including the high percentage as one of the requirements for a badge as people will rather not report it than risk lowering their percentage.

Do not worry too much, it never said not at all and if reporters starts getting paid one needs to be worried