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You should read the old thread for some example. DigiShield is wrong choice? Let's discuss of it here

Common sense would dictate that the involved and interested Community majority spoke and agreed the updated logo was a better choice, but hey, maybe I'm taking crazy pills.

Thank you agswinner!

Besides the effort of me and other users to stop the logo change they still did it and the damage is already done but I hope common sense will prevail and they will revert it back on coinmarketcap, twitter and elsewhere.

Is there an example of the *whole* Community deciding on something that had to do with the Mooncoin core or its direction? How was this
done?

Also, would you consider Digishield a correct decision? And how was that decision made?

Who decides? Not the first shareholder but the whole community, I guarantee the good ideas, and till now we have taken correct decisions

Ah, yes, you're right about the wallet development. Sorry about that.

Honestly, I think we're all wanting the same thing but the problem is there's too many ways to go about it, each with their own pros and cons.

No, I know that Jasperr is working on a project, and Evangelo, and more people on other projects,
I've just meant the wallet development itself.

I've tried to answer all questions from several Discord users,
maybe some other people could provide more answers just for better understanding,
I'm quite sure that many Bitcointalk members understand what we were talking about and could contribute to this discussing.

I agree , Twitter Mooncoinitalia account update with blue MOON logo 

If you seriously think barry is the only one working, then you truly have no grasp of what is happening.

I don't know who decides, maybe a board or Discord,
you already updated the logo at Coinmarketcap, ignoring a lot of Bitcointalk members opinions,
but I know who works: barrysty1e.

It looks like we have hundreds of decision makers now, but only one real worker.

And while all these things might eventually be done by just floating around and maybe, possibly get there,
a Board would ensure organization and directed efforts to ensure actual, real progress in a timely manner.

A Board would have organized a Developer Assistance Fund long ago to secure a dev for consistent, regular updates
to the code and wallet. The Community here did next to nothing to help barry or show him their appreciation. It took a regular concerned
dude (me) to take it on myself to start a crowdfund up after the Discord came to the conclusion we have to DO SOMETHING.

If you were actually on the Discord, you would be aware that barry had at length conversations with us regarding the
choice for the new algorithm. Weirdly enough, like a bunch of other things!  

You're listing all sorts of items that have nothing to contribute towards a centralized/decentralized argument. We're not
suggesting centralization; we're suggesting organization.

For the 4th time; WHO currently decides WHAT happens with Mooncoin itself? If your response continues to be 'everyone
decides everything to do with Mooncoin', then you don't understand the question.

+1

I Agree 100% on this.

Who decides will a block explorer continue, or not?
One who donates, if no one donates, an explorer discontinues.

Who decides to list MOON or not? An exchange admin.

Who decides to update MOON's wallet or not? People, mining pools, exchanges, explorers, other services etc.

Who decided to freeze Cryptsy addresses? People who had coins at Cryptsy, who had the most of these coins.

Who decides to buy MOON or not? Investors.

Who decides to start a new project, based on MOON? One who has an idea and wants to run this project.

Who decides which a difficulty retarget algo is the best one for MOON now? Barry, because he is testing it.

There is the word 'consensus', for decentralised systems.

You will never get a true 100% consensus on anything. I know you've been around the world long enough to understand that.

I didn't ask who you trust; that's entirely subjective and unimportant in this context. I asked who it is the Mooncoin Community
should go to for getting things done. WHO decides WHAT happens, Mooncoin_Foundation?

If you ask just about my opinion, I trust agswinner, coinflow, Zeta0S, nico12321, Wekkel, metamorphin,
Bitbobb, Abiky, polemarhos888, midmir, arcmetal, gjhiggins, DigitalCurrencyConsultant, bitcointalk
and other people, sorry if not mentioned,
barry is extravagant, he is very experienced and lives in another world, anyway I trust him,

from newcomers Evangelo, to a degree Zareeth (he ignored my last PM though when I've tried to find a consensus between a Discord and Bitcointalk community,
so not sure if he is really interested in the consensus), Jasperr seems to understand things to an extent (but he doesn't understand decentralised classic coins, their unique spirit and philosophy, their unique nature, and their market niche and he is focusing on ICOs, companies-like coins, when talking about crypto), also Tomorrowman (a designer, people liked his work),

the best approach for me is just to ask people's opinion in this thread, and not just count 10 agree 9 not,
no, a real consensus is when all agree (especially experienced users who have seen things),
if one doesn't agree, then my approach is not just to tell him: 'you are a loser', no, to find out, why he doesn't agree, to think it over.
Sometimes even if 1 experienced person doesn't agree, you should rethink your approach, and all people only will benefit from it.

Also, in my opinion, if to return a blue Moon logo (with some slight changes of shape and color, proposed by Tomorrowman),
MOON could gain at least 30-40 percent in price.
There is a lot of traffic from Coinmarketcap where people see mostly the name and the logo, a current logo at coinmarketcap (no one from experienced users approved it at Bitcointalk and many were saying against it) doesn't 'catch' people, it doesn't look great especially when it's of small size, and looks just like one of many other not interesting coins logos at Coinmarketcap.

I think "Big-moon-discord" is right having board. but instead of having board, I think recruiting new staffs will be the best and those staffs should be published officially on mooncoin website. Then each staffs should do their work in a unify way. I like "Big-moon-discord"s move anyway, it forced barry to come online. He's been silent for days. I've been silently following posts for months, I was surprised to see a youcaring donation, initially, I thought it was a scam because I never thought the poster is part of mooncoin team.

Please hire more team and let their names be listed on the mooncoin website. we need to know the official team and they should be updating the community.

I wish mooncoin great tomorrow

Having a Board doesn't exclude or diminish the value of others with good ideas or better experiences. It simply allows the
flow of decisions to go through much more quickly and without the constant pages long useless battling. It does not
mean every thought, idea or decision will be acted upon willy nilly.

Again I ask; who *exactly* are we *currently* to look to for getting things done?

At the beginning of this year, Lunacoin (LUNA) was launched.
They spent a lot of money for marketing campaign, hired representatives all over the world,
listed LUNA at many exchanges.
Their website had a very big traffic (hundreds of thousands of visitors per day),
I've contacted the Lunacoin dev then and told him:
you have no idea how difficult it will be to support Lunacoin,
why hadn't you just joined MOON with all your marketing resources?
You could benefit a lot from the partnership with MOON rather than launching another coin with a Moon theme.

A dev just ignored my PM.
Many investors invested BTCs in LUNA, the market cap of LUNA was higher for a while than Mooncoin's one,
and now after several months you may want to check its market cap
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/luna-coin/
$29 000 despite of listing at Livecoin.net.


Re: you and not only you, we all should listen to experienced members that have seen and understand things,
like if we all are in the same boat in the ocean we should listen to people who have a real experience, who can orient this boat and know things.

This isn't an answer. How do you have a single donation address under the control of multiple people? Also, who
would these people be and how would you choose them?