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At the beginning of this year, Lunacoin (LUNA) was launched.
They spent a lot of money for marketing campaign, hired representatives all over the world,
listed LUNA at many exchanges.
Their website had a very big traffic (hundreds of thousands of visitors per day),
I've contacted the Lunacoin dev then and told him:
you have no idea how difficult it will be to support Lunacoin,
why hadn't you just joined MOON with all your marketing resources?
You could benefit a lot from the partnership with MOON rather than launching another coin with a Moon theme.

A dev just ignored my PM.
Many investors invested BTCs in LUNA, the market cap of LUNA was higher for a while than Mooncoin's one,
and now after several months you may want to check its market cap
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/luna-coin/
$29 000 despite of listing at Livecoin.net.


Re: you and not only you, we all should listen to experienced members that have seen and understand things,
like if we all are in the same boat in the ocean we should listen to people who have a real experience, who can orient this boat and know things.
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Seeing as I'm holding and managing the MCF, I'm interested to hear how you would see a donation fund with a single address under
the control of multiple people.


Fellow Mooners, do you see how incompetent those guys are?

Littlestan, Big-moon-discord, Jasperrr, ...
Why don't you just fork Mooncoin to anything else and then play as directors all day long?
Do you want us to help you with the fork?

This isn't an answer. How do you have a single donation address under the control of multiple people? Also, who
would these people be and how would you choose them?
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The problem with your approach is,
when you came to MOON, you're welcome, by this friendly community,
you were welcome to suggest things and even to decide them (if other people, including experienced users, don't mind them actively).

But then you told to this Bitcointalk Mooncoin community: yes, we are welcome,
but you are NOT welcome, we will decide things, and if you don't agree, it doesn't matter.

What if majority is not experienced, or not wise to decide things?
That will result in affecting Mooncoin.
You think that it will be a progress, but in fact people will lose money due to decisions which are not wise, made by newcomers in the Altcoin scene.
Maybe years will pass before you'll get good understanding of how everything works (not technically only), and who will pay for mistakes? Mooncoin investors.

That is the point.

Ok, then who should we be looking to then, specifically?
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The problem with your approach is,
when you came to MOON, you're welcome, by this friendly community,
you were welcome to suggest things and even to decide them (if other people, including experienced users, don't mind them actively).

But then you told to this Bitcointalk Mooncoin community: yes, we are welcome,
but you are NOT welcome, we will decide things, and if you don't agree, it doesn't matter.

What if majority is not experienced, or not wise to decide things?
That will result in affecting Mooncoin.
You think that it will be a progress, but in fact people will lose money due to decisions which are not wise, made by newcomers in the Altcoin scene.
Maybe years will pass before you'll get good understanding of how everything works (not technically only), and who will pay for mistakes? Mooncoin investors.

That is the point.
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Seeing as I'm holding and managing the MCF, I'm interested to hear how you would see a donation fund with a single address under
the control of multiple people.


Fellow Mooners, do you see how incompetent those guys are?

Littlestan, Big-moon-discord, Jasperrr, ...
Why don't you just fork Mooncoin to anything else and then play as directors all day long?
Do you want us to help you with the fork?
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The results are in. 42 people voted. 40 in favour of a board, 2 against.

The result is clear that there is an obvious demand for a board.

https://www.poll-maker.com/results1133901xA98F30AA-47#tab-2

The board selection process begins now. There will be a total of 12 equal seats- no CEO.

If you want to become a board member, post what qualifies you for the position on this forum.

Members will be chosen based on merit - qualification, experience, and loyalty to mooncoin.
 

If we don't reach the maximum number of seats, anyone who posts an application will get a seat on the board, unless people feel strongly against the application.

Be prepared to have your application scrutinized by the community and have evidence prepared if it is requested.


Barry has a seat already.

Board selection will last as long as is needed.


Bulshit.

The poll is titled "Do you support a community board?"

It says nothing about 12 members and no CEO.

Is this your decision Big-moon-discord (Date Registered:    May 26, 2017)? Why not 13 members? Do you see what I am talking about?


40 "votes" can not decide for community of thousands. I was not aware of such poll.
The poll is not legit.

This TO simply is not going to happen.

Mooncoin is not company nor is yours to decide its fate by centralizing it.
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The software implement decentralized system. The network consist of equal nodes.
There are not master nodes present in the network, there are not nodes available more equal than others.

The same is with the Mooncoin community. The users are equivalent.

The twitter, the logo, the official website, "mooncoin" fund controlled by single person, ... and now Mooncoin board of directors (lol), ... it seems like few people trying to TO and taking decisions on behalf of the Mooncoin community without no one delegate them such rights.

The actions taken so far bring Mooncoin in wrong directions. The intentions of those people are not clear.

Board of directors of Mooncoin. Enforced and populated by accounts few months old.

This ridiculous proposition is denied.

Don't bother to answer me pls.



I should apologize that you're seemingly upset that things are finally moving and showing progression. It was incredibly audacious
of us in the Discord to regain control of years long abandoned or inactive social media accounts and actually use them to actively spread
the news of Mooncoin and it's happenings. /s

Seeing as I'm holding and managing the MCF, I'm interested to hear how you would see a donation fund with a single address under
the control of multiple people.

As far as WE go (yes, I know it pains you to consider US as part of YOU, but there it is) our intentions are altruistic; we
want to see MOON's original plan of MoonEdu be an incredible success, as well as it's other proposed functions. (SmartLikes, MoonWord,
MoonLite, etc.) Btw, we're all still anxiously waiting to hear about the efforts you've put forth and amazing things you've done for Mooncoin.

Honest question: who *specifically* should we be looking to and waiting on to make the decisions for Mooncoin?
It sounds an awful lot like you think you are: "This ridiculous proposition is denied."

The Board would be comprised of those who the Mooncoin Community (that means everyone, not just those in Discord) votes in. If
you're afraid that a Board would be a majority of Discord members... maybe you should consider what that means.

Also, do you realize you're posting on a public forum and simply saying 'Don't bother to answer me pls.' is incredibly childish? You
don't get to post crap totally unchallenged.
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The results are in. 42 people voted. 40 in favour of a board, 2 against.

The result is clear that there is an obvious demand for a board.

https://www.poll-maker.com/results1133901xA98F30AA-47#tab-2

The board selection process begins now. There will be a total of 12 equal seats- no CEO.

If you want to become a board member, post what qualifies you for the position on this forum.

Members will be chosen based on merit - qualification, experience, and loyalty to mooncoin.
 

If we don't reach the maximum number of seats, anyone who posts an application will get a seat on the board, unless people feel strongly against the application.

Be prepared to have your application scrutinized by the community and have evidence prepared if it is requested.


Barry has a seat already.

Board selection will last as long as is needed.
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Why i bet on mooncoin? Because there are Still here after three years and because one day i buy some mooncoin 1$ and the other day i sell it 2$ and this again and again. Moreover even if there is no real value in mooncoin this coin is known by many people even if there is a low volume. It means that for me the potential is real. What will happen ? We will see Smiley
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The software implement decentralized system. The network consist of equal nodes.
There are not master nodes present in the network, there are not nodes available more equal than others.

The same is with the Mooncoin community. The users are equivalent.


The twitter, the logo, the official website, "mooncoin" fund controlled by single person, ... and now Mooncoin board of directors (lol), ... it seems like few people trying to TO and taking decisions on behalf of the Mooncoin community without no one delegate them such rights.

The actions taken so far bring Mooncoin in wrong directions. The intentions of those people are not clear.

Board of directors of Mooncoin. Enforced and populated by accounts few months old.

This ridiculous proposition is denied.

Don't bother to answer me pls.



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Guys, what if we don't agree with proposed centralisation of MOON?
Should we expect brand new trolls in this ANN thread?
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I've asked barrysty1e to post an update in this ANN on his current work.
He told that he's not too much motivated with money.

If that not the biggest crock I'ver ever heard. I just sharted reading that.


If you wanna sell your mooncoin, hit me up at 415-429-1428 after 10:00 A.M.
I'll Venmo you USD for a better rate.
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I'm not against progress and a team,
also endless polls are definitely a bad idea.


A board will stop the need for unnecessary polls.
A board is fine as long as you can understand that decentralized properties can also happen in parallel.

Yes, you should have a board which still asks for the community's opinion through polls and what not, and also accepts user input. But at the same time, the board should be able to make decisions on important matters; without waiting 2 weeks for all sorts of polls to resolve it.

Why do we need a board of directors just to implement something good?

Because very little has happened in four years.
If you think that then you haven't been following mooncoin at all, and so a suggestion from you to make some "board" loses its credibility.
Please state what has happened development-wise? Yes, a lot has happened. But the main tech has not been released yet, nor have any good project supporting Moon been launched atm. Although we are working hard on them now, there have been little in the past 4 years.

If you do something which doesn't affect people, their money etc, they will not mind.

Not having a board adversely affects my money, I mind.
Then that is only a problem that you have within your own mind.  Who until now has had this problem?
We all did, we had good momentum and a lot of enthusiastic people working on projects. But it all came to a stand still at 10 sats, when everyone decided to start bickering about the logo. That completely killed our momentum. Having a board could have prevented that from happening.

You're welcome.

Not contributing to the solution and being arrogant about it is probably the reason nothing has happened. I ask you to take a step back and get to work on building Mooncoin.  
"nothing has happened" ... prove it.
One cannot prove that nothing has happened, one can only prove that something HAS happened. Thus, feel free to proof him (and me) wrong and tell us about all the projects that have been launched the past 4 years.
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Is the Mooncoin wallet not working?
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Bitcoin is not a company, has no directors and it's successful.

Nearly every coin has better tech than Bitcoin and if it launched today it would fail dramatically. It was the first of it's kind and goes by it's own rules because it has had a long time to establish itself and everyone knows what it is.

Great, then you understand why decentralization was built-in.


Huh

Quote from: Big-moon-discord on August 01, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
I'm not against progress and a team,
also endless polls are definitely a bad idea.

A board will stop the need for unnecessary polls.

A board is fine as long as you can understand that decentralized properties can also happen in parallel.


Anything coming from under the boards direction is official.

Quote from: Big-moon-discord on August 01, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
But why just not to suggest something good? Be sure no one will be against it.

Completely your opinion what is good or bad and completely unrealistic to expect no opposition to any plan.

No.

Let's not mix opinion's with facts and realities my friend.

Quote from: Big-moon-discord on August 01, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
Why do we need a board of directors just to implement something good?

Because very little has happened in four years.

If you think that then you haven't been following mooncoin at all, and so a suggestion from you to make some "board" loses its credibility.

I will make it clear, very little significant developments have been achieved in four years. A beta hasn´t even been released

Quote from: Big-moon-discord on August 01, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
A new algo, okay, no one is against it, people understand that currently it doesn't work as needed,
just come with you GOOD initiatives and everything is okay.

A board is probably the best step Mooncoin has ever made.
A board is ok, decentralized supporters are also ok, both can coexist as long as the board does not think that only they can exist.

Huh. We're on the internet. The boards directions are official, anything else is just the internet.

Quote from: Big-moon-discord on August 01, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
If you do something which doesn't affect people, their money etc, they will not mind.

Not having a board adversely affects my money, I mind.
Then that is only a problem that you have within your own mind.  Who until now has had this problem?

I have stated the benefits of a board numerously. The overwhelming majority of investors are here with hopes of huge financial gain. It is advertised on the ann that Mooncoin has an "Unbelievable risk/reward ratio", and the buy-in is incredibly cheap. 

Quote from: Big-moon-discord on August 01, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
You're welcome.

Not contributing to the solution and being arrogant about it is probably the reason nothing has happened. I ask you to take a step back and get to work on building Mooncoin.   

"nothing has happened" ... prove it.

lol You what

I can see we are taking steps forward, thanks barry.
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Sent out the first Developer Assistance Fund (DAF) payment to James today!

Thank you to all who have donated and to all who will donate; it is appreciated. Cheesy

Developer Assistance Fund (DAF) which currently goes to barrysty1e (James):
MOON - 2PoELBUoMh78DwPdVrzVAuLfLZLXVz2mcA
BTC - 13nGCECUNzct5zY5BvehLTmPWh3gZVzavx
Fiat - https://www.youcaring.com/barrystylejames-884047

Mooncoin Community Fund (MCF) which, among other things, provides revenue for recurring adverts,
hiring talent (like translators, etc.), and helping projects and intitiatives that are directly Mooncoin related along:
MOON - 2LpMRkRjM6VQnttqB6X3L77tNZATx6Fzar
BTC - 1KdJmMKswC78yqwyzjyZtrgCCQbfbevXt3

Support the Future Scouts program (futurescouts.co) They use Mooncoin as their official cryptocurrency
to teach children about the future of finance!:
MOON - 2DKf5d3PD665dWkxtGdeqooRovrQ814nD4
A great list, this should be on the main websites.
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Bitcoin is not a company, has no directors and it's successful.

Nearly every coin has better tech than Bitcoin and if it launched today it would fail dramatically. It was the first of it's kind and goes by it's own rules because it has had a long time to establish itself and everyone knows what it is.
Great, then you understand why decentralization was built-in.

I'm not against progress and a team,
also endless polls are definitely a bad idea.


A board will stop the need for unnecessary polls.
A board is fine as long as you can understand that decentralized properties can also happen in parallel.

But why just not to suggest something good? Be sure no one will be against it.

Completely your opinion what is good or bad and completely unrealistic to expect no opposition to any plan.
No.

Why do we need a board of directors just to implement something good?

Because very little has happened in four years.
If you think that then you haven't been following mooncoin at all, and so a suggestion from you to make some "board" loses its credibility.

A new algo, okay, no one is against it, people understand that currently it doesn't work as needed,
just come with you GOOD initiatives and everything is okay.


A board is probably the best step Mooncoin has ever made.
A board is ok, decentralized supporters are also ok, both can coexist as long as the board does not think that only they can exist.

If you do something which doesn't affect people, their money etc, they will not mind.

Not having a board adversely affects my money, I mind.
Then that is only a problem that you have within your own mind.  Who until now has had this problem?

You're welcome.

Not contributing to the solution and being arrogant about it is probably the reason nothing has happened. I ask you to take a step back and get to work on building Mooncoin.  
"nothing has happened" ... prove it.
full member
Activity: 189
Merit: 100
Sent out the first Developer Assistance Fund (DAF) payment to James today!

Thank you to all who have donated and to all who will donate; it is appreciated. Cheesy

Developer Assistance Fund (DAF) which currently goes to barrysty1e (James):
MOON - 2PoELBUoMh78DwPdVrzVAuLfLZLXVz2mcA
BTC - 13nGCECUNzct5zY5BvehLTmPWh3gZVzavx
Fiat - https://www.youcaring.com/barrystylejames-884047

Mooncoin Community Fund (MCF) which, among other things, provides revenue for recurring adverts,
hiring talent (like translators, etc.), and helping projects and intitiatives that are directly Mooncoin related along:
MOON - 2LpMRkRjM6VQnttqB6X3L77tNZATx6Fzar
BTC - 1KdJmMKswC78yqwyzjyZtrgCCQbfbevXt3

Support the Future Scouts program (futurescouts.co) They use Mooncoin as their official cryptocurrency
to teach children about the future of finance!:
MOON - 2DKf5d3PD665dWkxtGdeqooRovrQ814nD4
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Better to do nothing than to do things that will affect MOON.

Also something is done definitely, people were thanking for that,
some members donated a lot since 2014, you just have no idea,
because they don't speak about it.
To who did they donate? That money should go to Baz/Community fund.

Listing at exchanges, block explorers, nodes, devs... since 2014
also to barry (since 2016).

BTW he PMd now for more donations.
Did you raise something for him already, should I redirect him to Discord?
Yea Stan is running a donation fund, I think he's in contact with Barry!


Good things do not work without directors. That has been proven over and over in history. Feel free to proof me wrong.

Bitcoin is not a company, has no directors and it's successful.

I'm not against progress and a team,
also endless polls are definitely a bad idea.

But why just not to suggest something good? Be sure no one will be against it.
Why do we need a board of directors just to implement something good?
A new algo, okay, no one is against it, people understand that currently it doesn't work as needed,
just come with your GOOD initiatives and everything is okay.

If you do something good which doesn't affect people and their investments, they will not mind.
You're welcome.
Yea of course, we should always propose cool stuff and get it out there. But, for core decisions like the logo issue; algo change (there were actually some people against it) and other dev issues. It could be useful to have a board so we don't need to do endless polls nor Baz needs to step in to make a final decision. Just like I think we should have 1 main website that lists information about the coin, team, dev logs, etc.

Of course we can have plenty of other websites, but one official source of information would be sweet.
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Thanks for the update barry!
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