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Topic: More trust system abuse by Lauda - page 3. (Read 4731 times)

legendary
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Goonies never say die.
February 28, 2020, 04:21:45 PM
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5393/53931739.html

^^ Dude.... do you just blindly type shit without reading and processing anything? Roll Eyes

EDIT: adding in post this reply was meant for.  Wink
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
February 28, 2020, 07:59:02 AM
It seems pretty clear you didn't answer my question at all

Quit lying, the answer is right there, you just disagree with the "no".

My agreement or disagreement is irrelevant. You in fact did not answer my questions. You replied, but you didn't answer them. That is not the same thing.

TECSHARE: Am I always right?
suchmoon: No.
TECSHARE: You replied, but you didn't answer the question.

What a fucking clown. Oh wait, I can't call you that because using words that you have used would be "refractory". Oops, I did it again.

Next time when you ask a question please provide multiple choices so I can just tick a box to make you happy.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 28, 2020, 03:08:46 AM
More clear attempts to silence criticism using the trust system as a tool of abuse from Lauda.

Lauda   2020-02-28   Reference   Continues to defame me out of spite. Will merge with other ratings later.
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
February 28, 2020, 03:08:01 AM
It seems pretty clear you didn't answer my question at all

Quit lying, the answer is right there, you just disagree with the "no".

My agreement or disagreement is irrelevant. You in fact did not answer my questions. You replied, but you didn't answer them. That is not the same thing.

You asked two questions with "yes" or "no" answers. Suchmoon replied "no" to both. Those are definitively answers. I honestly don't understand how you expect to be taken seriously. Your plight for fairness and objective standards is harmed by your inability to accept an answer as an answer.

Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not?

No and no.

If you don't consider those to be "answers", you're simply trolling at this point.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 28, 2020, 02:07:31 AM
It seems pretty clear you didn't answer my question at all

Quit lying, the answer is right there, you just disagree with the "no".

My agreement or disagreement is irrelevant. You in fact did not answer my questions. You replied, but you didn't answer them. That is not the same thing.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
February 27, 2020, 10:07:28 AM
It seems pretty clear you didn't answer my question at all

Quit lying, the answer is right there, you just disagree with the "no".
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 27, 2020, 09:53:10 AM
Since you answered this question, please quote your answer for clarity, that is unless you are going to take another page from Vod's book and just keep claiming you did while never actually doing it.

Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not?

No and no. Stop using theymos as a crutch when it suits you. He also said "it'd be best to forgive".

Until you, Og, and Vod start seriously working towards deescalation I can't be bothered to care about it anymore. Five minutes of being adults is all it takes. Look at Lauda+Quicksy = . You can do it too, I believe in you, don't let me down.

It seems pretty clear you didn't answer my question at all and instead chose to respond to it in a way that intentionally avoids taking a stance that will expose your own excusing of Vod's trust system abuse, as well as avoids supporting the fact that the rating I left for Vod is perfectly valid. Of course for you, deflection is more of the norm than the exception isn't it?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
February 27, 2020, 09:17:47 AM
Since you answered this question, please quote your answer for clarity, that is unless you are going to take another page from Vod's book and just keep claiming you did while never actually doing it.

Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not?

No and no. Stop using theymos as a crutch when it suits you. He also said "it'd be best to forgive".

Until you, Og, and Vod start seriously working towards deescalation I can't be bothered to care about it anymore. Five minutes of being adults is all it takes. Look at Lauda+Quicksy = . You can do it too, I believe in you, don't let me down.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 27, 2020, 09:02:36 AM
You didn't answer my question. You responded to it, but you didn't actually answer it.

I did. Try reading it again. You not liking the answer doesn't make it magically disappear.

Oh I am a compulsive liar now?

Not just "now", you've been like that as long as I can remember. It goes really well with the "never wrong" shtick to reject any responsibility for the bullshit you spout.

Interesting you never called me a "compulsive liar" until now. Sounds a lot like you are just taking what I said about Vod and being refractory. FYI, just because you disagree with me doesn't make me a liar, not that you care to make the distinction.



Is not my rating for Vod valid? Are Vod's negative ratings for me not invalid? Convenient you suddenly can't be bothered when a direct question is asked.

Since you answered this question, please quote your answer for clarity, that is unless you are going to take another page from Vod's book and just keep claiming you did while never actually doing it.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
February 27, 2020, 08:55:59 AM
You didn't answer my question. You responded to it, but you didn't actually answer it.

I did. Try reading it again. You not liking the answer doesn't make it magically disappear.

Oh I am a compulsive liar now?

Not just "now", you've been like that as long as I can remember. It goes really well with the "never wrong" shtick to reject any responsibility for the bullshit you spout.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 27, 2020, 08:42:15 AM
Is not my rating for Vod valid? Are Vod's negative ratings for me not invalid? Convenient you suddenly can't be bothered when a direct question is asked.

I already answered in the shortest and most direct way possible, literally in the post you just quoted. I can't help you with your compulsive lying issue, sorry.

You didn't answer my question. You responded to it, but you didn't actually answer it. Oh I am a compulsive liar now? Refractory projection much? Are you taking lessons out of Vod's book now?

*compulsive liar

He definitely has a compulsive disorder and has no qualms about lying to everyone's face over and over and over again. He seems to believe as long as he never admits fault no one will notice his constant self contradictions.

Anyone who does point it out is "lying about him" and gets attacked and tagged via the trust system, and some members of this community refuse to take responsibility for him by removing his authority under the system he abuses to serve his own compulsions at the expense of the larger community. It terrifies me to think of how many peoples lives he might have ruined as a cop in real life with his lack of self control.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
February 27, 2020, 06:36:21 AM
Is not my rating for Vod valid? Are Vod's negative ratings for me not invalid? Convenient you suddenly can't be bothered when a direct question is asked.

I already answered in the shortest and most direct way possible, literally in the post you just quoted. I can't help you with your compulsive lying issue, sorry.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 27, 2020, 03:36:28 AM
Clown music

There is a difference between using the fact that Theymos excluded me 5 years ago to justify other negative ratings (makes no sense), and the fact that Theymos gave a specific directive on how the trust system should be used.


Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not?

No and no. Stop using theymos as a crutch when it suits you. He also said "it'd be best to forgive".

Until you, Og, and Vod start seriously working towards deescalation I can't be bothered to care about it anymore. Five minutes of being adults is all it takes. Look at Lauda+Quicksy = . You can do it too, I believe in you, don't let me down.

That rating I left for Vod was the FIRST AND ONLY negative rating I have EVER left for him. You know how many times he left me false and abusive negative ratings and was forced to remove them years before that? At least 3 times, as many as 5. So you are suggesting that doxing a forum member and reporting him to the IRS because of an interpersonal conflict should be excused? Usually that is an instant ban let alone grounds for a negative rating, but Vod never has to follow any rules now does he? Rules are only for people like me. He is free to tag thousands of people for whatever he likes, but he is still free to break all the rules and still be above reproach.


Of course you can't be bothered now that I asked you explicitly. Lets try again.

Is not my rating for Vod valid? Are Vod's negative ratings for me not invalid? Convenient you suddenly can't be bothered when a direct question is asked.



Lauda   2020-02-26   Reference   "Dishonest. Hypocritical. Malicious. Shows no remorse for any misdeeds. This rating has nothing to do with anybody's opinions. Consistent deceptive behavior. See reference links for summary."


I heard this community removed people from the default trust when it is abused to silence others and it is used as a retaliatory tool. So when exactly is that going to happen? I guess as long as you say "This rating has nothing to do with anyboy's opinions" you can leave ratings for peoples opinions and it makes it ok. How much longer is this community going to tolerate being ripped apart by people like this? Until its gone?


FYI, this is the 6th time Lauda has removed and replaced a negative rating for me to manipulate the trust system to make sure it is the first thing anyone sees when they view my trust history.
If your actions create more references and behavior that I must document, then I will indeed do this however many times I need to. Unless of course you prefer the alternative: Having 6 (at the time being) individual negatives from me and more if you create reasons for newer ratings. I think a single new rating is always better, but I am willing to let you choose which way you want it out of kindness. Let me know.  Smiley

Until you, Og, and Vod start seriously working towards deescalation I can't be bothered to care about it anymore. Five minutes of being adults is all it takes. Look at Lauda+Quicksy = . You can do it too, I believe in you, don't let me down.
Stupid life is, is it not? Not being able to show any remorse is a major character flaw..  Undecided

Remorse for what exactly? What did I do wrong. Be specific.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 3000
Terminated.
February 26, 2020, 11:49:34 PM
Lauda   2020-02-26   Reference   "Dishonest. Hypocritical. Malicious. Shows no remorse for any misdeeds. This rating has nothing to do with anybody's opinions. Consistent deceptive behavior. See reference links for summary."


I heard this community removed people from the default trust when it is abused to silence others and it is used as a retaliatory tool. So when exactly is that going to happen? I guess as long as you say "This rating has nothing to do with anyboy's opinions" you can leave ratings for peoples opinions and it makes it ok. How much longer is this community going to tolerate being ripped apart by people like this? Until its gone?


FYI, this is the 6th time Lauda has removed and replaced a negative rating for me to manipulate the trust system to make sure it is the first thing anyone sees when they view my trust history.
If your actions create more references and behavior that I must document, then I will indeed do this however many times I need to. Unless of course you prefer the alternative: Having 6 (at the time being) individual negatives from me and more if you create reasons for newer ratings. I think a single new rating is always better, but I am willing to let you choose which way you want it out of kindness. Let me know.  Smiley

Until you, Og, and Vod start seriously working towards deescalation I can't be bothered to care about it anymore. Five minutes of being adults is all it takes. Look at Lauda+Quicksy = . You can do it too, I believe in you, don't let me down.
Stupid life is, is it not? Not being able to show any remorse is a major character flaw..  Undecided
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
February 26, 2020, 10:54:35 PM
Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not?

No and no. Stop using theymos as a crutch when it suits you. He also said "it'd be best to forgive".

Until you, Og, and Vod start seriously working towards deescalation I can't be bothered to care about it anymore. Five minutes of being adults is all it takes. Look at Lauda+Quicksy = . You can do it too, I believe in you, don't let me down.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 26, 2020, 10:29:37 PM
So, now you are suggesting

LOL, sure, keep making shit up, that'll fix all issues. If I wanted to say something - I would. I don't need you to be my interpreter.

What is to interpret? You just said I should reconsider my rating for Vod, one that Theymos himself said would be a valid use of the trust system to rate over, because Vod decided to use the trust system in a clear attempt to extort me into removing it. You are very clearly implying I share responsibility for Vod's abuse of the trust system against me, and I should remove a valid rating in order to barter for removal of his abusive ratings.

Is the rating I left for Vod valid or not? Are the ratings he left for me valid or not? Set deflectors to maximum.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
February 26, 2020, 09:29:44 PM
So, now you are suggesting

LOL, sure, keep making shit up, that'll fix all issues. If I wanted to say something - I would. I don't need you to be my interpreter.

legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 26, 2020, 08:46:19 PM
Notice how nothing I said was actually addressed in favor of more deflection. Not just lack of protest, active deflection from these issues and literally giving abusers power to abuse. Thanks for proving my point.

If you really want to resolve your issues with Vod, start showing signs of compromise regarding your own red trust on him. Does that sufficiently address your tangent?

So, now you are suggesting it is legitimate to use negative ratings to extort other users into removing valid negative ratings left. That is about as abusive as it gets.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
February 26, 2020, 07:11:38 PM
Notice how nothing I said was actually addressed in favor of more deflection. Not just lack of protest, active deflection from these issues and literally giving abusers power to abuse. Thanks for proving my point.

If you really want to resolve your issues with Vod, start showing signs of compromise regarding your own red trust on him. Does that sufficiently address your tangent?
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
February 26, 2020, 07:05:00 PM
Yet you don't do much protesting when it happens do you?

Oh wow, not enough protesting is the problem now. Feel free to fuck right off with that kind of "logic".

You spend an exceptional amount of time attempting to slide the topic on any related thread pointing out these issues. You do in fact support trust abuse, not only by actively covering for it, but by refusing to exclude those that abuse their DT position. Are you suggesting that Vod's negative ratings for me have basis? He has a long history of leaving baseless ratings and refuses to substantiate them. Why is he still on your trust list then? That sure looks like supporting abuse to me.

Why are you sliding this topic now? Don't you have a bunch of Vod threads to bump?

Notice how nothing I said was actually addressed in favor of more deflection. Not just lack of protest, active deflection from these issues and literally giving abusers power to abuse. Thanks for proving my point.
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