Moral of the story: Only lend what you're willing to lose for a colateral you're willing to keep at this price
I think the better option is not to opt for those shitty tokens. ETH, LTC, IOTA or basically those old players remain the safest bet.
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Moral of the story: Only lend what you're willing to lose for a colateral you're willing to keep at this price
I think the better option is not to opt for those shitty tokens. ETH, LTC, IOTA or basically those old players remain the safest bet.
Turns out he was a scammer, and Vod was right all along... He still logs into the forum but doesn't post anything.
I don't know if you can consider this a scam...
I mean technically he's just late and assured me he would repay tomorrow. It's not like he stopped answering.
I've put the deal on hold. If he repays tomorrow he gets the collateral back and you can say he's not a scammer. But indeed I have high doubts.
Why do i need to prove anything? Because of what?
He isnt scammer? You say. Am i?
He isnt scammer? You say. Am i?
Turns out he was a scammer, and Vod was right all along... He still logs into the forum but doesn't post anything.
Hey,
Just to update I did grant the loan, which seems to have been a mistake.
Still I was interested in the ICO so considering the collateral it had a good value to me at least.
In the end loan is still not repaid, the newbie is saying please wait before selling the collateral but he's late.
I'm striking a deal with the colateral for about 25% more than the loan value so I can't really say I've been scammed xD
If he doesn't rapay today i'll just make it worth it by selling the collateral. But unless he repays shortly he indeed doesn't seem like he was planning to repay.
Moral of the story: Only lend what you're willing to lose for a colateral you're willing to keep at this price
Just to update I did grant the loan, which seems to have been a mistake.
Still I was interested in the ICO so considering the collateral it had a good value to me at least.
In the end loan is still not repaid, the newbie is saying please wait before selling the collateral but he's late.
I'm striking a deal with the colateral for about 25% more than the loan value so I can't really say I've been scammed xD
If he doesn't rapay today i'll just make it worth it by selling the collateral. But unless he repays shortly he indeed doesn't seem like he was planning to repay.
Moral of the story: Only lend what you're willing to lose for a colateral you're willing to keep at this price
post proof that you got the loan, provided the collateral, and then paid the lender back.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48935009@MS69 You have -ve probably because you have tried to use worthless tokens as collateral and to be honest you previously tried to sell CRGO tokens http://archive.li/hrhqy
I didn't go deep into this ICO, I can only say team is selling tokens for $1 each and collateral might worth much more than 400$.
At the moment your collateral equals 0$, so lender is aware of the risk and they accepted it because they have their own reason. That is all I will say here, if you want to discuss this do it privately with Vod or create thread in reputation.
Sorry for off topic.
I never made a judgement on whether his feedback was accurate or not, I simply pointed out that spamming his threads and his trust page and calling him names isn't a mature way to handle a disagreement and won't help you solve it.
Although I have to say, the idea of getting a medical statement to prove you aren't a "fagot" made me laugh. Maybe there is some new blood test or scan I don't know about.
Although I have to say, the idea of getting a medical statement to prove you aren't a "fagot" made me laugh. Maybe there is some new blood test or scan I don't know about.
Adults, when they have a disagreement, present a logical argument backed up by evidence to support their position. Children in the same situation rant and rave and call people names.
Spamming his trust page and multiple threads he started with off-topic nonsense and calling him a "fagot" will not help your case.
Once your loan is repaid, open a new thread in reputation with links to the relevant posts and transaction IDs.
Why should i prove you anything? I repeat.Spamming his trust page and multiple threads he started with off-topic nonsense and calling him a "fagot" will not help your case.
Once your loan is repaid, open a new thread in reputation with links to the relevant posts and transaction IDs.
Of what arguments was his feedback based?
Stop being "friendly" with higher rank members. Doesnt it look funny?
Same situation would be to compare: i called him fagot, and now he need to prove that he is not. Getting medical statements or something. Than he can post pictures here and i will stop calling him so. My friends could back me up if needed.
Adults, when they have a disagreement, present a logical argument backed up by evidence to support their position. Children in the same situation rant and rave and call people names.
Spamming his trust page and multiple threads he started with off-topic nonsense and calling him a "fagot" will not help your case.
Once your loan is repaid, open a new thread in reputation with links to the relevant posts and transaction IDs.
Spamming his trust page and multiple threads he started with off-topic nonsense and calling him a "fagot" will not help your case.
Once your loan is repaid, open a new thread in reputation with links to the relevant posts and transaction IDs.
My loan was granted. Collateral deposited. Btc received. Was i trying to scam someone?
Don't know how much you value your BCT account, but if you don't care about it, I'm not going to continue this discussion. However, if you're looking to possibly salvage it, 1) remove those retaliatory negs on Vod, 2) stop posting that he's a scammer (he's not), 3) post proof that you got the loan, provided the collateral, and then paid the lender back. Vod is reasonable, but I know he doesn't appreciate behaviors like the ones you've displayed after him negging you and again, any appeal is between you and him--as I said, I can't speak for him. He has been known to remove feedback depending on the actions of the tagged member.
Who gave you the loan? When is it due? Can you provide the Txid for the bitcoin sent to you?
If you're looking to clear your name, start up a new thread in the Reputation section with that information. All of this is off-topic here.
He isnt scammer? You say. Am i?
Text him to remove his feedback, and dont trow his ass in not his bussiness.
Do i care my account? How do you think? Thats not because of account, thats because some fagot(vod) being absolutely wrong.
My loan was granted. Collateral deposited. Btc received. Was i trying to scam someone?
Don't know how much you value your BCT account, but if you don't care about it, I'm not going to continue this discussion. However, if you're looking to possibly salvage it, 1) remove those retaliatory negs on Vod, 2) stop posting that he's a scammer (he's not), 3) post proof that you got the loan, provided the collateral, and then paid the lender back. Vod is reasonable, but I know he doesn't appreciate behaviors like the ones you've displayed after him negging you and again, any appeal is between you and him--as I said, I can't speak for him. He has been known to remove feedback depending on the actions of the tagged member.
Who gave you the loan? When is it due? Can you provide the Txid for the bitcoin sent to you?
If you're looking to clear your name, start up a new thread in the Reputation section with that information. All of this is off-topic here.
You are fagot, and many know this.
Vod's feedback in your case was a little bit harsh, given that you tried putting up collateral--I don't know anything about cargocoin tokens, but apparently the issue is that they're not traded on exchanges yet and therefore if you defaulted on your loan, the lender would be stuck, hoping that eventually he'd be able to sell them. Does that about sum it up?Did you get the loan you were asking for? m0gliE looked interested in doing it for you, but there's no followup in that thread. I can't speak for Vod, but there might be an outside chance that if someone loans you that 0.1BTC and you pay it back on time and to the lender's satisfaction, Vod might reconsider the neg. But calling him names and spamming his trust page with retaliatory negs, calling him a scammer won't work in your favor.
People get tagged here for offering worthless collateral, because if the lender accepts it, they can very easily get scammed since the borrower (especially if it's a new account) has nothing to lose by defaulting on the loan. In your case, Vod judged it as that kind of situation. I said the feedback was harsh, but as I said I'm pretty ignorant about cargocoin tokens and whether they can eventually be sold or not. If there's no chance, then the feedback is certainly appropriate.
You are fagot, and many know this.
Vod's feedback in your case was a little bit harsh, given that you tried putting up collateral--I don't know anything about cargocoin tokens, but apparently the issue is that they're not traded on exchanges yet and therefore if you defaulted on your loan, the lender would be stuck, hoping that eventually he'd be able to sell them. Does that about sum it up?Did you get the loan you were asking for? m0gliE looked interested in doing it for you, but there's no followup in that thread. I can't speak for Vod, but there might be an outside chance that if someone loans you that 0.1BTC and you pay it back on time and to the lender's satisfaction, Vod might reconsider the neg. But calling him names and spamming his trust page with retaliatory negs, calling him a scammer won't work in your favor.
People get tagged here for offering worthless collateral, because if the lender accepts it, they can very easily get scammed since the borrower (especially if it's a new account) has nothing to lose by defaulting on the loan. In your case, Vod judged it as that kind of situation. I said the feedback was harsh, but as I said I'm pretty ignorant about cargocoin tokens and whether they can eventually be sold or not. If there's no chance, then the feedback is certainly appropriate.
Rather than make a long post, I will just say look at the "Archived Profiles" at the top right of https://bpip.org
A few seconds later, refresh the page - see how the number is going up? Yes, there were (are?) that many people signing up per minute on this forum...
Most new accounts are not making any posts at all, meaning three months later they become archived.
This is a GOOD sign. Before merit introduction, most of these profiles were making garbage posts.
We just need to wait until all the shitposter sMerit has been used up. Then there will be NO incentive and no forum posts about bitcointalk being a "lottery win".
And what do you contirubute? Throwing random feedbacks at anyone anytime?A few seconds later, refresh the page - see how the number is going up? Yes, there were (are?) that many people signing up per minute on this forum...
Most new accounts are not making any posts at all, meaning three months later they become archived.
This is a GOOD sign. Before merit introduction, most of these profiles were making garbage posts.
We just need to wait until all the shitposter sMerit has been used up. Then there will be NO incentive and no forum posts about bitcointalk being a "lottery win".
You are fagot, and many know this.
What point do you have acting as a dick? No point i quess. Then what illness you have? Bipolaric? Autism?
Accounts might be dormant for many reasons, including read only users, who are only interested in reading and learning.
I feel the so called shitposters know about the natural system, before joining
I feel the so called shitposters know about the natural system, before joining
Recently evil IP payment has been threading all over the forum which I believed it will makes a lot of beginners to abandon their new account simply because they have no Idea on how to make the payment. Secondly some newbies are here with greedy habit to make huge money account night as a result they may fall into the wrong hands and get scam which will make them to abandon their account.
The evil IP works only if one user from that IP is banned, otherwise you can log in more accounts at the same time with a new fresh IP.
Are you really expecting new accounts to contribute something here immediately? Just imagine when you gain admission into a new school, you are expected to be on the learning part and such should be expected here. Sometimes it makes people feel bad when you big guys stress this issue of " meaningful post" even when it is obvious that the forum is too vast for someone to learn just automatically... I joined this forum since January and I still have not learnt everything even with the efforts am making. Honestly, the expectations you big guys place on newcomers is too high... they are to learn first before producing the result and learning is surely faster when they get involved in the discussion without being scolded.
I give them 90 days before I move them to archive. Three months should be enough time to contribute.
Yes, let's say it's natural law, this world has many colors. If we see it only black and white or right and wrong without being able to see from various sides, maybe for beginners need knowledge of knowledge in the world of crypto and Bitcoin,
So for that, maybe with this post, it can contribute more in everything, people need teachers and read to not be empty in the world, just like Bitcointalk.
So for that, maybe with this post, it can contribute more in everything, people need teachers and read to not be empty in the world, just like Bitcointalk.
When I was a newbie, I tread carefully. Spoke only when I was sure the information would be helpful and when it wasn't, I asked questions instead. But let's not forget there are two categories of newbies okay maybe three.
The actual newbie
The newbie owned by an old timer (concurrently), and
One who lost his account
I guess with the merit system it's really hard moving up if you are only incentivized by money matters. A host of category 1 and 2 will drop drastically, except they have a means to rank up easily (doubt that), category 3 are still the ones with genuine intentions, I think¡
The actual newbie
The newbie owned by an old timer (concurrently), and
One who lost his account
I guess with the merit system it's really hard moving up if you are only incentivized by money matters. A host of category 1 and 2 will drop drastically, except they have a means to rank up easily (doubt that), category 3 are still the ones with genuine intentions, I think¡
Are you really expecting new accounts to contribute something here immediately? Just imagine when you gain admission into a new school, you are expected to be on the learning part and such should be expected here.
But the problem here is people are going to an English-speaking 'school' for a subject they don't have any interest or knowledge in and many can't speak English very well in the first place, but are only going because there's some payment in it for them for 'attending'.
I would also add to your words, that the problem isn`t only in lack of interest in the topic, but absolute indifference and disrespect to the fact that the adherents of the forum have been building for several years. When a child comes to a new school, he doesn`t begin to destroy the established system there and violate the rules of the community. What do newbies think about themselves? Why they are sure they can ignore the rules that were originally written on the forum?
I understand that the problem hasn`t been solved yet in many respects due to the absence of proper sanctions. Beginners don`t have fear, they aren`t afraid even to be banned, because they know they can create thousands and thousands of accounts to earn their tokens. But I'm not talking about this right now. It is about culture and respect for someone else's work. The forum wasn`t created in one day. People, who have reached Hero and Legendary ranks have written their posts not in one minute. Think about what efforts from the administrator and the conscious participants the creation and development of this platform required. I`m very disappointed that a huge number of spammers and bounty hunters not just don`t admire the work done, but also openly disregard and neglect the rules and traditions of this forum.
Are you really expecting new accounts to contribute something here immediately? Just imagine when you gain admission into a new school, you are expected to be on the learning part and such should be expected here. Sometimes it makes people feel bad when you big guys stress this issue of " meaningful post" even when it is obvious that the forum is too vast for someone to learn just automatically...
The question is, are the new accounts' reason why they are created here is to contribute here in the forum?? To be honest, this thread has been created because this is true that new accounts don't contribute here. Oh they are contributing, contributing spam thru bounties. When the merit system is not been implemented here, there were lots of spammers in the forum because ranking is not that hard but now its implemented now. New accounts are not created to contribute, they are being created for the sake of bounty hunting and this is the truth. Yeah, there are some newbies who are learning and you can find information anywhere in the forum but most of the new accounts don't contribute here.
I joined this forum since January and I still have not learnt everything even with the efforts am making. Honestly, the expectations you big guys place on newcomers is too high... they are to learn first before producing the result and learning is surely faster when they get involved in the discussion without being scolded.
High ranked members here doesn't need you to spoon feed all of the information because you can see it here already and one thing, there is a website called google.com where you can do some research in case what you need to research is not here. Maybe you are haven't learned anything because you are just here for bounty hunting too. right??
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