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February 27, 2024, 09:51:29 PM
In a trade, of course there are winners and losers, but some statements state that the number of traders who lose is much greater than the traders who win, this is due to the wrong mindset in trading. Most people trade with emotion and think that trading is a quick way to make money, on the other hand, those who experience big profits when trading become arrogant and become complacent and think that they are masters of trading, and of course there are many other factors.
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February 27, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
As there is no definite and accurate information on this, I naturally do not accept this. If any such calculations were done by survey, I would believe that most traders are losing money instead of making profit. If most traders didn't make a profit then there wouldn't be so many coins bought and sold in the market. What we know is very little and because of that little knowledge we cannot compare all traders with that little amount of traders.

If a test is conducted among 100 traders, everyone's trading strategy will be different, everyone's trading skills will be different, everyone's experience will be different. Trading skill experience and strategy play a huge role in profit and loss in trading. Just as you cannot match an experienced trader with a new trader, you can never match an incompetent trader with a genuine trader. So I will always argue that most traders cannot trade profitably.
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February 27, 2024, 11:54:17 AM
The probability of being profitable in trading is very low. Future is a very difficult thing to grasp in trading. In fact, if the maximum amount of profit could be made by trading, traders would not have come to YouTube and started various courses. I partially agree with your statement. First of all, if they were not profitable then people would not trust them. As a result, I think they must be doing these things based on their experience. Secondly the businessmen will be doing it on YouTube for their profit as well. But I also cannot deny that trading is risky and there is little chance of profit. This requires a considerable amount of research and time. And those who are novice traders should do proper amount of research judgment analysis. So what you do should be done carefully.
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February 26, 2024, 01:10:09 PM
When it comes to trading, one should gain enough knowledge to be able to understand everything and be able to do things effectively, and over time, they will become experienced traders and then they will understand things that they might haven't understood initially when they just had knowledge but no experience.
Only if the trader continues to do that. Because there are traders that are frustrated already and that is what they want to do, to stop when it is no longer profitable to them.
Many are fantasizing to become a trader but they didn't know that it takes time and money for them to become successful. When someone is called a trader, it is not always profitable at all and count more of their losses as it is more than the wins.
The problem is that many people still think that trading is one of the ways to earn easy money, and that's why many people fantasize about becoming a trader. This is because they only look at the time of profit, but they do not look at the time of loss. This makes people even more convinced that trading can indeed bring profits quickly.

Whereas in practice it is not as easy as what is imagined, we are required to have knowledge, experience, even mentality will be very influential in an ongoing trade. Capital or money is certainly the first thing that must be owned and also keep in mind that the money that will be allocated to trade is money that we are responsible for.
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February 26, 2024, 11:51:46 AM
When it comes to trading, one should gain enough knowledge to be able to understand everything and be able to do things effectively, and over time, they will become experienced traders and then they will understand things that they might haven't understood initially when they just had knowledge but no experience.
Only if the trader continues to do that. Because there are traders that are frustrated already and that is what they want to do, to stop when it is no longer profitable to them.
Many are fantasizing to become a trader but they didn't know that it takes time and money for them to become successful. When someone is called a trader, it is not always profitable at all and count more of their losses as it is more than the wins.
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February 26, 2024, 11:07:29 AM
Well, you could say that. But things like these doesn't happen specifically within the Trading World and I'm not so sure about the distinction between successful and unsuccessful traders doing this because as far as I'm concerned both sides of the spectrum will and have been able to put out their courses for a price. That's what they have . I've seen business gurus and motivational coaches from across the space talk about their stupid fucking courses that could make your ass rich overnight, long as you buy their courses that cost 5-10 bucks a piece. Unsuccessful traders here would often find themselves complaining about trading, and somewhat successful traders will find this whole rendezvous profitable and make it their main hustle until it stops working for them.

Clever traders and businessmen will profiteer out of it and make courses that wouldn't really help the students for shit cause they know that if their secret to success goes out they'd be toast, so just enough for it to be passable enough to not rile attention. That's been their formula all these years and I don't see that ever changing.
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February 25, 2024, 11:28:24 AM
As long as they are making profits then they are good to go. Trading is not everyone's job because it requires a lot of patience.
Frequent losses will kill you from inside but you need patience to tackle the losses and still trade with skill to make profits.
A lot of it also depends on trading skills and that comes only with experience. We need to put in dedicated effort to gain those skills.
Experience comes with time, knowledge is the necessary thing to get started because when you know something, you can start doing it, and over time, you will become experienced in that thing, but if you don't know, the initial phase will be much more difficult for you because you will need to grind a lot until you become experienced and learn everything by failing several times in it which isn't a pleasant experience.

When it comes to trading, one should gain enough knowledge to be able to understand everything and be able to do things effectively, and over time, they will become experienced traders and then they will understand things that they might haven't understood initially when they just had knowledge but no experience.
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February 22, 2024, 12:05:47 PM
A lot of traders are not as profitable as they claim to be. I don't know the exact percentage but I can say and stand to be corrected that 95% of traders even the so called professionals are not profitable. How do I know this through simple deduction. 95% of these unprofitable traders make their money through other means and their unsuspecting followers don't know this. Some of the means are
- starting a YouTube channel and making money of
a) affiliate program
b) YouTube ads

- Having a paid course.
- Trading signals
- Selling trading merch
- impressions
- and others.

The true 5% of traders that are very successful and profitable do not even have a YouTube channel (only a very few exceptions). They are strictly for trading only, day in and say out.

    Honestly speaking, what you say is correct, but until now, the majority of traders in the field of cryptocurrency are still losers. And I think that's normal because maybe the other traders are still exploring or practicing so that some can improve their trading skills.

    Also, with every defeat or loss, there are some people who still take it as a lesson to learn so that they can grow even more in the future with their trading skills that are being practiced right now, right?
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February 22, 2024, 10:59:37 AM
As long as they are making profits then they are good to go. Trading is not everyone's job because it requires a lot of patience.
Frequent losses will kill you from inside but you need patience to tackle the losses and still trade with skill to make profits.
A lot of it also depends on trading skills and that comes only with experience. We need to put in dedicated effort to gain those skills.
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February 19, 2024, 02:15:14 PM
There are many people who invest but they don't understand how to invite and test because they don't know their basic knowledge.
Moreover, those who do tat are accepting the signal, there is no single, because if you take the signal, you will choose their sub, not choose on your own, if you can't do it yourself, then you will eat more with the profit and leave the exile with many singles.  Today there are traders without interest, they only train in the market depending on the signal and they are the next to profit.
When someone trades without having knowledge of course they only do it based on what they see and not because of knowledge about how to analyze the market well and if they follow signals it is not certain that what they follow can be used fully of course we need good knowledge so that we can compare with the signals we get with the knowledge we have.

It is better to seek knowledge and also practice trading so that we can gain profits from trading because if we only rely on signals we could be wrong in choosing the signal provider service and we don't know and we also fail in trading.
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February 19, 2024, 02:07:58 PM
Many like to show what they are not.  And common people like to believe it without verifying it.  If someone claims to be a successful trader, then there is nothing we can do. We should check before trusting someone. And successful traders who are less inclined to introduce themselves.  Trading is not possible for everyone.  Trading requires proper skills.
There is nothing we can do but the reality will sink in to them that they are not real traders and they're not really profitable at all. There's a lot of deception happening especially in social media when an influencer is trying to be famous with their own ways through trading.
They make a lot of contents on how profitable they are and in reality, what makes them stay here is that their social media following and presence and just trying to be relevant but not really showing good results.
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February 19, 2024, 11:16:12 AM
Many like to show what they are not.  And common people like to believe it without verifying it.  If someone claims to be a successful trader, then there is nothing we can do. We should check before trusting someone. And successful traders who are less inclined to introduce themselves.  Trading is not possible for everyone.  Trading requires proper skills.
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February 19, 2024, 02:11:48 AM
There are many people who invest but they don't understand how to invite and test because they don't know their basic knowledge.
Moreover, those who do tat are accepting the signal, there is no single, because if you take the signal, you will choose their sub, not choose on your own, if you can't do it yourself, then you will eat more with the profit and leave the exile with many singles.  Today there are traders without interest, they only train in the market depending on the signal and they are the next to profit.
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February 19, 2024, 01:44:36 AM
I agree. Especially, I find trading channels interesting. Recently, I followed a couple of signals on futures based on these recommendations. Both signals ended up in liquidation, so most of these channels won't really improve trading skills; they might even harm them. Many novice traders often support the idea of easy profits, but the reality turns out to be quite different. I believe that to become a successful trader, one needs not only financial knowledge but also emotional stability and discipline.

In addition to the financial knowledge and emotional stability, a trader also needs experience to become a profiting trader. Many traders are losing because they are depending on signal channels meanwhile signal channels aren't reliable. You don't know what you're receiving when they send you trading signals, you won't know if its a fake signal or an accurate signal and if you have the abilities to verify the signals you don't need to be using a signal channel for trading but depending on your own knowledge tobbe analyzing the market. Most traders aren't emotional alright, they lack the balance between their emotions therefore they open trades with emotions and it causes them to fail.
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February 14, 2024, 07:20:24 AM
The fact that most traders lose their money is a banal truth known to almost all traders. But what is surprising is how little truly authoritative research has been done on this topic to support this thesis. In addition, the few studies that exist are devoted mainly to short-term day traders. As for medium-term traders who trade within a week, month or quarter, there are few such studies.
      There is even less research on the profitability of investors than there is research on the profitability of medium-term traders. This may be due to the difficulty of such research, because it takes many years and not all investors are willing to disclose information about their profits.
          But in general, all researchers have the same numbers. Over the long term, from 70 to 95-98% of traders lose their funds.
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February 13, 2024, 03:08:50 PM
I agree. Especially, I find trading channels interesting. Recently, I followed a couple of signals on futures based on these recommendations. Both signals ended up in liquidation, so most of these channels won't really improve trading skills; they might even harm them. Many novice traders often support the idea of easy profits, but the reality turns out to be quite different. I believe that to become a successful trader, one needs not only financial knowledge but also emotional stability and discipline.
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February 13, 2024, 02:58:26 PM
Profitability should be taken in the case of consistency.
Partaking in trading -related generated income programmes(affiliate,ads for exchanges) does not mean you are unprofitable.
Trading should just be considered as a single man business and focus on what works for you than throwing shades on others.
Profitability is repeating what you know and taking it when it appears on chart over and over again and constantly making profits and incurring less loses
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February 13, 2024, 07:44:13 AM
No matter how great a trader is, he has lost at least once in his life. I think, there is no trader who has made a profit every time he has traded, he can never say that he has won 100%, he has lost even once. Trading never gives guaranteed profit to anyone, because trading is very risky. But you can make a lot of profit if you understand trading well and use a good trading strategy. Trading depends on the daily market conditions, if you do market research well before trading, your chances of profiting from trading will increase greatly. So understand everything well before trading, and then trade.

One of the main issues our people facing is that they don't take the time to learn how to trade. The majority of people have failed at it because they are unaware that information is the basis for everything in today's world. If someone truly wants to excel in any endeavor they choose to embark on in this life they are presently living, they must conduct extensive research about it. However, some people will just begin trading without understanding the risks involved, even though it can yield a sizable profit. In this case, the individual most make an effort to learn everything to also know about cryptocurrencies and technical analysis.

Particularly those biginners, who are expanding into trading without a solid grasp, typically fall into this category. I believe it will benefit everyone, not just me, if we can be patient and learn about whatever we want to introduce ourselves to, not only trading, so that even if we only grasp a little we may profit much.
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February 12, 2024, 04:59:02 PM
It is possible to complete the example with me because already i have completely wasted large capital in trading. I am now facing a big problem because I raised money in loan which was a loss while trading. Now i believe in my heart that the investment will be the best for me and i will get profit from it very easily. Few days ago my friend made big money from memecoin holding which is really appreciated.
You made a mistake and you probably did it because you didn't have enough knowledge and know what you should and shouldn't do when you decide to start trading. Trading cryptocurrencies is a risky thing because they are volatile assets and the market is highly unpredictable, and when you are trading in such a volatile market, you don't take loans to make your trades because if you lose the money for any reason, you will surely get in trouble.

This is why every single person that has some experience in this market will say that you should only use the money that is yours and that isn't supposed to be used for anything else so that when you invest it and something happens or even if they get stuck due to market conditions, you don't have other problems with it.
Dealing up with trading isnt something that do talks about automatic profits, you would really be needing to work hard for it and would be making those wise decisions. Newbies do usually having those kind of mindset
on which they are really that believing that they could really be able to make themselves rich with trading without even trying out to look on whats the real deal and thing here on this space.
We cant really be able to tell that trading isnt profitable, if it werent profitable then there would be no traders and just that minding off about the basic concept of trading then of course this is something
that you would really be needing to have that kind of tug of war in between sellers and buyers and if you arent that good enough when it comes to buying and selling then
you would really be outgamed for those who do know on what they are doing.
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February 12, 2024, 02:38:36 PM
It is possible to complete the example with me because already i have completely wasted large capital in trading. I am now facing a big problem because I raised money in loan which was a loss while trading. Now i believe in my heart that the investment will be the best for me and i will get profit from it very easily. Few days ago my friend made big money from memecoin holding which is really appreciated.
You made a mistake and you probably did it because you didn't have enough knowledge and know what you should and shouldn't do when you decide to start trading. Trading cryptocurrencies is a risky thing because they are volatile assets and the market is highly unpredictable, and when you are trading in such a volatile market, you don't take loans to make your trades because if you lose the money for any reason, you will surely get in trouble.

This is why every single person that has some experience in this market will say that you should only use the money that is yours and that isn't supposed to be used for anything else so that when you invest it and something happens or even if they get stuck due to market conditions, you don't have other problems with it.
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