The point gap between Verstappen and Leclerc has gone up to 98 now. Perez has also left Leclerc behind in the driver standings now. Ferrari are just experiencing the nightmare in a season they could have done much better than this. But it is their fault mostly at the same time. Making the right decisions would have kept the championship race between Verstappen and Leclerc alive now. The last race was another disaster and I don't have expectations from them in the remaining races anymore.
The Dutch GP is closing in on us. It is this weekend and it is the home GP for Verstappen also. I expect nothing different than a Verstappen win here like he did last season.
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August 29, 2022, 12:07:00 PM
August 29, 2022, 09:42:37 AM
I'm happy to give this news to you. The Belgian GP is going to be a part of 2023 calendar as well.
There were rumours about the possibility of its being removed. This track is a special one for most of F1 lovers. The race yesterday was really nice to watch also even though Verstappen dominated it completely.
There were rumours about the possibility of its being removed. This track is a special one for most of F1 lovers. The race yesterday was really nice to watch also even though Verstappen dominated it completely.
I am very happy about that, a great oldschool track with gravel beds but also good chances to overtake.
For the race itself, RedBull was superior, as already mentioned, and no other team had a real chance to win in a normal race.
The pit stop at the end of the race was again typical for Ferrari, they wanted to win a point with the fastest lap and typical for this season they lost a place due to a penalty and the lap was about 0.6 seconds too slow for the fastest lap.
August 29, 2022, 08:34:53 AM
Ferrari had no chances today, and RBR with the new regulation imposed by FIA had no chances today.
Let's see if next GP they can fight or if FIA killed this championship.
Let's see if next GP they can fight or if FIA killed this championship.
But remember who wanted the new regulations tho and who was saying that changing regulations at the middle of the season is not good and sets something up that can be done again during the next seasons.
It was Toto Wolff who wanted the new regulations, with him thinking it would prolly be advantageous with Mercedes. And who was against it? Christian Horner, the team principal of Red Bull. But ironically it looks like they might be faster because of it... Lol.
Anyway, it looks like the season is over. It's Verstappen's season to lose and it also looks like we're witnessing greatness being born in F1.
Yes,that is pretty mature of Max Verstappen considering his young age still,he is becoming double World Champion at an early age which shows exactly that,greatness being born,however we had Vettel and Alonso near the same age becoming double World Champions and it didn't go that well for Alonso especially after those titles as Vettel won two more because of the car he was driving the Redbull being the absolutely best car at that time.Now we are experiencing the same but it is more relevant this title win for Verstappen as in the first part of the Championship he didn't have the best car and it was because of his bravery only that he managed the wins(of course a bit helped by idiotic Ferrari pit strategies).
August 29, 2022, 07:38:07 AM
I'm happy to give this news to you. The Belgian GP is going to be a part of 2023 calendar as well.
There were rumours about the possibility of its being removed. This track is a special one for most of F1 lovers. The race yesterday was really nice to watch also even though Verstappen dominated it completely.
After hearing about this news I started to think about another possibility. Maybe they changed their mind to changing some things on this track before the next race here. We already know about a change about a specific place on the track for example. They changed the tarmac run-off area with gravel for example. Drivers were sometimes trying to use the place to their advantage before. Some more changes might be yet to come.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.spa-to-form-part-of-2023-f1-calendar-following-agreement-to-extend.7FeUki5B2tpV6LC1NKvgI1.html
There were rumours about the possibility of its being removed. This track is a special one for most of F1 lovers. The race yesterday was really nice to watch also even though Verstappen dominated it completely.
After hearing about this news I started to think about another possibility. Maybe they changed their mind to changing some things on this track before the next race here. We already know about a change about a specific place on the track for example. They changed the tarmac run-off area with gravel for example. Drivers were sometimes trying to use the place to their advantage before. Some more changes might be yet to come.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.spa-to-form-part-of-2023-f1-calendar-following-agreement-to-extend.7FeUki5B2tpV6LC1NKvgI1.html
August 29, 2022, 07:13:42 AM
Ferrari had no chances today, and RBR with the new regulation imposed by FIA had no chances today.
Let's see if next GP they can fight or if FIA killed this championship.
Let's see if next GP they can fight or if FIA killed this championship.
But remember who wanted the new regulations tho and who was saying that changing regulations at the middle of the season is not good and sets something up that can be done again during the next seasons.
It was Toto Wolff who wanted the new regulations, with him thinking it would prolly be advantageous with Mercedes. And who was against it? Christian Horner, the team principal of Red Bull. But ironically it looks like they might be faster because of it... Lol.
Anyway, it looks like the season is over. It's Verstappen's season to lose and it also looks like we're witnessing greatness being born in F1.
August 28, 2022, 10:09:03 PM
Whoever still had 1% doubts about the new champion of this season, will now have no more doubts, I think. He was really great today, Max. Started from 12th place and after a quarter of the race he was already in first place. It also helps that they have a super car, we saw the weekend that Red Bull was by far the fastest car, but then you have to wonder why Perez couldn't win this race? After all, he started in 2nd place (but had a terrible start). Then Verstappen is still 7 places behind the start. Is Verstappen so much better or Perez much worse?
What Max Verstappen did today was magnificently, leaving just three dated for the first in 20 laps is too few.
I don't remember seeing something like this happen "that often".
RedBull has a fantastic car, we cannot deny that this helped Max a lot to achieve this result, but this would not have been possible without the talent of Verstappen, a perfect combination.
There is no doubt that Verstappen will be champion in 2022.
@Zackgeno96 this was one of the most epic races I have seen in a while, and it made me realise just why I love F1 so much, and though we won’t see many repeats of this happening I feel that Max is racing on another level and currently no one can catch up to him.
Championship was already over before summer break. Max started from P14 today, but winning today was so easy for him that's not even interesting. With Red Bull pace, P3 for Sainz is best what he was able to achieve. Ferrari didn't failed in strategy today, but things can't go well for them - Leclerc got penalty for speeding in pit lane on last pit stop and lost P5 that he got in last lap after overtaking Alonso. Poor Bottas, his race ended after accident with GOATifi and he had no chance to avoid it.
And Alonso radio message about Hamilton was epic - ''This guy only knows to drive starting first''
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And Alonso radio message about Hamilton was epic - ''This guy only knows to drive starting first''
.@LTU_btc this race once again proves the era of Hamilton is all but over, and it’ll be interesting will he try to his salvage pride by racing next season or will he be humble enough to quit F1 as he already has built a nice legacy.
August 28, 2022, 08:17:12 PM
Whoever still had 1% doubts about the new champion of this season, will now have no more doubts, I think. He was really great today, Max. Started from 12th place and after a quarter of the race he was already in first place. It also helps that they have a super car, we saw the weekend that Red Bull was by far the fastest car, but then you have to wonder why Perez couldn't win this race? After all, he started in 2nd place (but had a terrible start). Then Verstappen is still 7 places behind the start. Is Verstappen so much better or Perez much worse?
What Max Verstappen did today was magnificently, leaving just three dated for the first in 20 laps is too few.
I don't remember seeing something like this happen "that often".
RedBull has a fantastic car, we cannot deny that this helped Max a lot to achieve this result, but this would not have been possible without the talent of Verstappen, a perfect combination.
There is no doubt that Verstappen will be champion in 2022.
August 28, 2022, 06:48:13 PM
There are only 7 riders left who have not made an announcement about their contracts for next year (2023). Because Enea Bastianini, who has officially joined the Ducati factory, accompanied Pecco Bagnaia, Jorge Martin had to stay in his original place (Pramac Racing) with Johan Zarco. And Jack Miller who is currently still at the factory Ducati will accompany Brad Binder at the factory KTM next year which makes Miguel Oliveira have to be removed from the KTM Factory seat for next season.
August 28, 2022, 03:33:45 PM
That message does not make any sense when you are talking about the living legend in stats in F1 history,I know Alonso is an ex World Champion but that statement was way really offending for Hamilton,nevertheless Hamilton was humble enough to apologize and acknowledge his error (something I doubt Alonso would have done) but that was just in the first lap.
It's true that Hamilton have proven many times that he can't start not just from front of grid. But Alonso phrase is emotions of angry racer what gives some spice for race. I prefer such emotions, rather than boring politcirrect stuff.Alsonso acknowledge his own error - never heard of it
. August 28, 2022, 03:20:17 PM
Championship was already over before summer break. Max started from P14 today, but winning today was so easy for him that's not even interesting. With Red Bull pace, P3 for Sainz is best what he was able to achieve. Ferrari didn't failed in strategy today, but things can't go well for them - Leclerc got penalty for speeding in pit lane on last pit stop and lost P5 that he got in last lap after overtaking Alonso. Poor Bottas, his race ended after accident with GOATifi and he had no chance to avoid it.
And Alonso radio message about Hamilton was epic - ''This guy only knows to drive starting first''.
And Alonso radio message about Hamilton was epic - ''This guy only knows to drive starting first''
.That message does not make any sense when you are talking about the living legend in stats in F1 history,I know Alonso is an ex World Champion but that statement was way really offending for Hamilton,nevertheless Hamilton was humble enough to apologize and acknowledge his error (something I doubt Alonso would have done) but that was just in the first lap.
Latifi vs Bottas what a race incident and you cannot do anything about it,it just happens although it happens a lot from teams and drivers standing in the last place.
August 28, 2022, 02:58:19 PM
Whoever still had 1% doubts about the new champion of this season, will now have no more doubts, I think. He was really great today, Max. Started from 12th place and after a quarter of the race he was already in first place. It also helps that they have a super car, we saw the weekend that Red Bull was by far the fastest car, but then you have to wonder why Perez couldn't win this race? After all, he started in 2nd place (but had a terrible start). Then Verstappen is still 7 places behind the start. Is Verstappen so much better or Perez much worse?
August 28, 2022, 02:57:08 PM
Championship was already over before summer break. Max started from P14 today, but winning today was so easy for him that's not even interesting. With Red Bull pace, P3 for Sainz is best what he was able to achieve. Ferrari didn't failed in strategy today, but things can't go well for them - Leclerc got penalty for speeding in pit lane on last pit stop and lost P5 that he got in last lap after overtaking Alonso. Poor Bottas, his race ended after accident with GOATifi and he had no chance to avoid it.
And Alonso radio message about Hamilton was epic - ''This guy only knows to drive starting first''.
And Alonso radio message about Hamilton was epic - ''This guy only knows to drive starting first''
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August 28, 2022, 02:40:05 PM
Sainz said in the post race interview that the upcoming track should suit Ferrari and then in Monza it is clear that Rebdull will be the favorite,things clearly do not look good for Ferrari as for the Championship it is already killed even if Verstappen loses and crashes in 4 races he will still be ahead of Leclerc considering Leclerc cannot win them all most likely.I am waiting for the next GP but even if the next one as a track suits Ferrari it will be in Verstappen home and the track will be full of orange army fans there so a lot of unpredictable things to see but this season is already over as we already for me have a world Champion which is Verstappen.
Yeah, Championship is already over.
But RBR today got no new pieces and got a big advantage, the only thing that changed was rule 39 increasing all the cars high until the end of the season.
Until today the competition was close between Ferrari and RBR, if the following cars RBR will still be 1 second ahead for a lap they need to thank the FIA for the new rule.
August 28, 2022, 12:27:37 PM
Ferrari had no chances today, and RBR with the new regulation imposed by FIA had no chances today.
Let's see if next GP they can fight or if FIA killed this championship.
Let's see if next GP they can fight or if FIA killed this championship.
Sainz said in the post race interview that the upcoming track should suit Ferrari and then in Monza it is clear that Rebdull will be the favorite,things clearly do not look good for Ferrari as for the Championship it is already killed even if Verstappen loses and crashes in 4 races he will still be ahead of Leclerc considering Leclerc cannot win them all most likely.I am waiting for the next GP but even if the next one as a track suits Ferrari it will be in Verstappen home and the track will be full of orange army fans there so a lot of unpredictable things to see but this season is already over as we already for me have a world Champion which is Verstappen.
August 28, 2022, 12:20:59 PM
Hamilton was really ambitious to achieve something this weekend but he had another disappointment. First the car was so slow to have a proper lap time in qualifying. He was really displeased with this situation and this wasn't going to be the only bad thing happening to him. While we were only at the beginning of the race his race ended already. Maybe Alonso was right about him because Hamilton didn't have much space to leave Alonso behind at that turn. He was the victim of his excessive attempt there. At least Russell had a good race but it was still a bad weekend for Mercedes at the end of the day.
Congrats to Verstappen on this very deserved win. It is so sad to see Ferrari getting this much weaker than Red Bull lately. Sainz couldn't do anything against Verstappen's high speed today. Leclerc was even struggling to compete with Russell.
Congrats to Verstappen on this very deserved win. It is so sad to see Ferrari getting this much weaker than Red Bull lately. Sainz couldn't do anything against Verstappen's high speed today. Leclerc was even struggling to compete with Russell.
August 28, 2022, 11:36:40 AM
Ferrari had no chances today, and RBR with the new regulation imposed by FIA had no chances today.
Let's see if next GP they can fight or if FIA killed this championship.
Let's see if next GP they can fight or if FIA killed this championship.
August 28, 2022, 11:02:37 AM
^ No one picked him up
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I had a bit of laugh when I saw that no one picked him up or perhaps he chose to walk for a while in order to refresh his mind a bit. Regarding the incident that took Hamilton out , I think both drivers have their own fault in that duel and it ended up like it did when both drivers want to close that corner when they both know there is no place for two cars.
August 28, 2022, 10:15:21 AM
It is obvious that we are seeing Verstappen dominating the grid very easily. But when you start at 14-15th places and then end up with the first, thats way too much, thats just too good. I always wanted to have a league where people who are better are still better just like now, but the difference between the cars is not at a level where you don't go from 15th to 1st at least. In the long run, Verstappen made sure that they are winning and will end up champions for sure. Charles ended 6th. We shouldn't really be waiting anything from this season, its already over, Red Bull win, probably Perez second and Max first, easy.
August 28, 2022, 09:26:57 AM
Verstappen is just enjoying his time on the road going to the championship now.
Basically it was already almost certain that Verstappen will win the championship (also due to Ferrari's own mistakes), but now after this race it will be almost impossible for Leclerc and Ferrari to turn the tide in their favor. This weekend there was no way RedBull could be beaten, perfect race from the whole team and strong performance.
August 28, 2022, 09:10:47 AM
Verstappen's incredible start killed all my hopes about Sainz to win the race. Verstappen is very comfortable in the lead and Sainz is way behind like 20 seconds. Red Bull are incredibly fast this weekend compared to Ferrari. Maybe Leclerc would have fought better than Sainz if he didn't have a problem in the first laps of the race. He had to pit then and he is still not fast enough to catch up with even Russell who is right in front of him.
Verstappen is just enjoying his time on the road going to the championship now.
Verstappen is just enjoying his time on the road going to the championship now.
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