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Quote from: Pulsar77 on August 25, 2022, 12:19:21 PM

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Gezzz.

Go away, we want "Verstappen" out from the race and Lecrlec take the podium ~XD That's would be good for the points, so verstapppen no gonna any point and lecrecl +25 points. Make the different points only 60.

I hoping 3 race is like this, and the chance for lecrlec scored a point + risk the other drive out is really high.

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Three days to go for the Spa GP in F1. Grin

If it rains during the race this might make things more interesting. Because then I wouldn't be so sure about one of the Verstappen-Leclerc duo to win the race. Maybe it would be an advantage for Mercedes for example. By the way, Mercedes have been improving their car and the current level is quite impressive. They still need some luck in races too to be able to get solid results.

However I believe this can change next season and the car can start being capable of fighting with Red Bull and Ferrari at the same level. I mean that Hamilton can find a big opportunity to achieve his 8th title to break the record by himself.

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hmph..

Quote from: swogerino on August 24, 2022, 03:54:42 PM

It is one of the tracks that I like in MotoGP.The rain has ruined a couple of races last season even in F1 where one of the best if not the best race of the whole F1 calendar was not raced at all and after finishing two laps under heavy rain and safety car the race ended.I waited from 2 a clock to 6 a clock European time when the race was cancelled and called finished after a mere 2 laps.In F1 we are near it again as it will be hosted this weekend and hopefully there will not be again rain.Hopefully even in the 2023 Mandalika MotoGP will not be rain again but for the Mandalika race there is still a lot of time while for the SPA in Belgium F1 only a couple of days to go.

Exactly, hopefully when in Indonesia 2023, the weather here is entering the summer season. Because, when it rainy season in Indonesia can be very bad. Even though in the first race in Madalika, the drainage system worked well, but I'm still worried that high rain intensity could affect the drainage system there. F1 will be held in Belgium this week, I'm not worried at all, even if it rains there, because the circuit construction is definitely better than in Mandalika. ha ha
1 think I like the on the wet race when I'm 16 yo, the crash of racer. that really bad, but i don't know i think it was amazing lol.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 24, 2022, 04:54:45 PM

We have Andretti wanting to have a racing team in F1 as soon as 2024, and we have Audi and Porchse known for 2026 new regulations as well. All of which means that we may live in a world where 15 teams and 30 drivers "may" happen in this decade.

I am not saying that it will happen, because there could be teams leaving too who knows? But by the looks of it 13 is already in the talks and could happen, on top of that we could see maybe 2 more teams joining instead of any team leaving and that would be 15 teams, can't remember when was the last time with 30 drivers. In the end, this is of course great for us because more and more things to watch will happen eventually.

I think it's completely possible that Andretti Autosport will enter F1 in 2024, as they are at a very fast pace, and one of the main actions that is already a concrete fact is their 575,000 square meter facility near the Indianapolis airport.
In fact, the decision to enter F1 no longer depends on Andretti, because after the attempt to buy Sauber last year failed, Michael Andretti officially filed with the FIA the request to enter the F1 grid from 2024. Andretti Global continues to wait for a decision, while trying to move forward with his thirst.

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We have Andretti wanting to have a racing team in F1 as soon as 2024, and we have Audi and Porchse known for 2026 new regulations as well. All of which means that we may live in a world where 15 teams and 30 drivers "may" happen in this decade.

I am not saying that it will happen, because there could be teams leaving too who knows? But by the looks of it 13 is already in the talks and could happen, on top of that we could see maybe 2 more teams joining instead of any team leaving and that would be 15 teams, can't remember when was the last time with 30 drivers. In the end, this is of course great for us because more and more things to watch will happen eventually.

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Quote from: masulum on August 24, 2022, 12:28:34 PM

It is unfortunate that next season the Mandalika International Circuit will not be one of the hosts for the pre-season schedule. Despite failing to host the pre-season, Mandalika will still be the organizing circuit for the MotoGP 2023 and may be held at the end of the season. Hopefully during the race in Mandalika it won't rain again. lol

It is one of the tracks that I like in MotoGP.The rain has ruined a couple of races last season even in F1 where one of the best if not the best race of the whole F1 calendar was not raced at all and after finishing two laps under heavy rain and safety car the race ended.I waited from 2 a clock to 6 a clock European time when the race was cancelled and called finished after a mere 2 laps.In F1 we are near it again as it will be hosted this weekend and hopefully there will not be again rain.Hopefully even in the 2023 Mandalika MotoGP will not be rain again but for the Mandalika race there is still a lot of time while for the SPA in Belgium F1 only a couple of days to go.

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hmph..

It is unfortunate that next season the Mandalika International Circuit will not be one of the hosts for the pre-season schedule. Despite failing to host the pre-season, Mandalika will still be the organizing circuit for the MotoGP 2023 and may be held at the end of the season. Hopefully during the race in Mandalika it won't rain again. lol

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Quote from: beerlover on August 23, 2022, 04:32:44 PM

Kimi was racing in F1 just recently, he quit it last season, I do not think that you lose being a great driver in that many months. If you think he was a good driver last season, then he would be a good driver this season. Of course there is a difference between the cars in this situation but that doesn't mean that he would be a bad one.

I am not expecting him to just come in and destroy everyone and be great, but he would still be not terrible at all. Give Kimi Ferrari car today, and he would probably get close to a title run even in F1 at his age. He just felt like he doesn't want to anymore and that's why he quit, and wasn't even the first time he retired neither.

Being competitive has always been in Kimi's nature. He has always been cold-blooded which is a feature I admire. He has even a nickname like "Iceman" as you know. Grin

The interesting fact is that he has always seen F1 as a hobby for himself rather than a job. Some people might think that this isn't a good way of looking at a job maybe but I don't think like that. Because clearly he always did the job he loved to do. This motivated him to be a great driver, and a legend.

He doesn't want to return to F1 anymore but let's say we saw him at one of the most powerful teams then I wouldn't even doubt about how much competitive and successful he can be.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 23, 2022, 03:31:07 AM

The different point is not far, 32 points and 12 points. And what like you said if one of them fails once, the position will change on 2 races. but IMO, too hard to make Quartararo fail from a podium or not get the points next. As I can see in Austria how he predece Jorge martin on lap 10 and Miller on lap 5 shows him a great racer who can't easily beat him for the title.

That's true, but in the 7 remaining races of the season, only in the Spanish Aragon series that makes me a little doubtful for Fabio Quartararo's achievements. Because he rarely makes great achievements in Aragon including last year as well although maybe this season will be a little different, but I doubt that Fabio Quartararo can get a podium in Aragon Spain this season.

Here are Fabio Quartararo's notes at the Aragon circuit during his career

Moto3 2015 - Not Down (Honda)

Moto3 2016 - Finish 12th (KTM)

Moto2 2017 - Finish 11th (Kalex)

Moto2 2018 - Finish 9th (Speed Up)

MotoGP 2019 - Finish 5th (Petronas SRT Yamaha)

MotoGP 2020 - Finish 6th (Petronas SRT Yamaha)

MotoGP 2021 - Finish 8th (Monster Energy Yamaha). Source

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Kimi was racing in F1 just recently, he quit it last season, I do not think that you lose being a great driver in that many months. If you think he was a good driver last season, then he would be a good driver this season. Of course there is a difference between the cars in this situation but that doesn't mean that he would be a bad one.

I am not expecting him to just come in and destroy everyone and be great, but he would still be not terrible at all. Give Kimi Ferrari car today, and he would probably get close to a title run even in F1 at his age. He just felt like he doesn't want to anymore and that's why he quit, and wasn't even the first time he retired neither.

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So, In Spa after this summer break. Can Ferarri take the Pole & Podium again ? LET's Go Tifosi, this is a good sign for us as the red fans. We're tired always be a clown and the entire circus ~xd.

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The weather report of Spa for the weekend is like this now:

Actually it was showing Sunday also as rainy before but it has changed. Honestly a rainy race in Spa would turn into a nightmare for most of the drivers. Because this is one of the most difficult tracks under rain in my opinion. Hamilton likes rainy races a lot as you know but his car would still stay weak against Verstappen and Leclerc's as long as we don't see those two having problems.

I'm expecting a very competitive race between Verstappen and Leclerc. Verstappen is the last winner of this race and he'd like to retain this achievement. However his job will be really difficult against Leclerc. It depends on the choices Ferrari will make as well. Because for example their calls about tyres literally finished Leclerc's race early previously. I hope not to see this kind of scandalous incidents recurring here also.

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I watched the comeback race of Kimi Raikkonen and I have to say (also as a fan) he is still a racer, he was on a very good way until Stage 3 and partly in the TOP 10. A remarkable performance considering it was his first weekend in a NASCAR, definitely he hasn't lost his bite and talent yet. Unfortunately he had a bit of bad luck in Stage 3 and was little pushed out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw8ae8R-cBw

https://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/196969/Kimi-Raeikkoenen-NASCAR-Comeback-endet-mit-Crash.html

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Quote from: Koal-84 on August 22, 2022, 04:55:04 AM

Quote from: swogerino on August 21, 2022, 08:24:32 AM

Ducati won although by very little margin it won.Bagnaia came out first after the 28 laps race at Spielberg so now in theory the MotoGP Championship remains exciting but we all know that Fabio remains the huge favorite to win the title still.That is because there are not a lot of tracks suitable for Ducati anymore,they are tracks that are overall good for every MotoGP team and Fabio is still leading comfortably so far.

Now there are three riders in fight for the title,Quartararo the huge favorite,Espargaro the title run up contender and now even Bagnaia is not that far,the points difference is just 44 and we now this amount is irrelevant for the number of races left in the MotoGP,a single crash can change a lot in the standings.

Exactly, there are still 7 races to go, so a maximum of 175 points, now every retirement is decisive, should Bagnaia or Aleix both fail once, Fabio will bring the lead over the laps, of course, should Fabio fail again, the two could catch up it remains in any case exciting.

The penultimate GP in Malaysia favours the Ducatis once again, otherwise the Aprilia, Ducati or Fabio should be able to win at every circuit.

The different point is not far, 32 points and 12 points. And what like you said if one of them fails once, the position will change on 2 races. but IMO, too hard to make Quartararo fail from a podium or not get the points next. As I can see in Austria how he predece Jorge martin on lap 10 and Miller on lap 5 shows him a great racer who can't easily beat him for the title.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 21, 2022, 04:20:21 PM

In F1 we have a salary cap.

The teams can't spend over a fixed amount of money during the whole season.
Considering the world inflation, the FIA decided to give teams an "Inflation bonus" and teams can now spend 4 more million USD during the season.

Is it the same amount for all the teams or is it bigger for the top three teams, namely Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari? And even if it's the same across the board, I think the team that would benefit from it the most if... *drum roll*... Mercedes. I'm not saying is a bad thing or anything. They're at the cusp of rediscovering themselves. A little more nudge and I think the could be winning races for the rest of the season. Both Ferrari and Red Bull should watch out.

Anyway... Spa this weekend folks. Wink

2022 F1 Belgian GP Schedule

Track: Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps

Practice 1: FRI 14:00 - 15:00
Practice 2: FRI 17:00 - 18:00
Practice 3: SAT 13:00 - 14:00
Qualifying: SAT 16:00 - 17:00
Race: SUN 15:00 - 17:00

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Quote from: Koal-84 on August 22, 2022, 04:55:04 AM

Exactly, there are still 7 races to go, so a maximum of 175 points, now every retirement is decisive, should Bagnaia or Aleix both fail once, Fabio will bring the lead over the laps, of course, should Fabio fail again, the two could catch up it remains in any case exciting.

The penultimate GP in Malaysia favours the Ducatis once again, otherwise the Aprilia, Ducati or Fabio should be able to win at every circuit.

Fabio Quartararo only needs to be consistent to get a second podium in the remaining 7 races without errors or crashes and ensure that the one who gets the first podium is not Aleix Espargaro. Because Aleix Espargaro is the rider who has the closest points to Fabio Quartararo at the moment so Aleix Espargaro is the person Fabio Quartararo has to watch out for besides Bagnaia. Because Bagnaia needs to win all the remaining races by not making any mistakes in order to be able to fight for the world championship this season.

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Quote from: swogerino on August 21, 2022, 08:24:32 AM

Ducati won although by very little margin it won.Bagnaia came out first after the 28 laps race at Spielberg so now in theory the MotoGP Championship remains exciting but we all know that Fabio remains the huge favorite to win the title still.That is because there are not a lot of tracks suitable for Ducati anymore,they are tracks that are overall good for every MotoGP team and Fabio is still leading comfortably so far.

Now there are three riders in fight for the title,Quartararo the huge favorite,Espargaro the title run up contender and now even Bagnaia is not that far,the points difference is just 44 and we now this amount is irrelevant for the number of races left in the MotoGP,a single crash can change a lot in the standings.

Exactly, there are still 7 races to go, so a maximum of 175 points, now every retirement is decisive, should Bagnaia or Aleix both fail once, Fabio will bring the lead over the laps, of course, should Fabio fail again, the two could catch up it remains in any case exciting.

The penultimate GP in Malaysia favours the Ducatis once again, otherwise the Aprilia, Ducati or Fabio should be able to win at every circuit.

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There is less than a week left for the upcoming race in Spa. This is one of the special races in F1. The competition between Leclerc and Verstappen can be tighter here. Leclerc's morale might have dropped quite much after simple mistakes. He is still a very ambitious driver even though he has only a slight chance for the championship now. He would do his best but the team must help him at the same time. They have been like Leclerc's enemy so far.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 21, 2022, 04:20:21 PM

In F1 we have a salary cap.

The teams can't spend over a fixed amount of money during the whole season.
Considering the world inflation, the FIA decided to give teams an "Inflation bonus" and teams can now spend 4 more million USD during the season.

I strongly disagree that teams need more money.
While the richest teams consider that this is still insufficient to cover the expenses they say they have, for the “poorest”, it further highlights the abyss that exists between the two ends of this dispute and collaborates to keep F1 more and more uneven.
We all agree that inflation is rampant, but I doubt that a tighter budget would prevent teams from continuing to innovate and compete in GPs.

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