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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 16, 2022, 04:22:43 PM

Change back in F1.
From next year they will go back on old free practice.

They increase again the duration from 60 to 90 minutes while in 2021 it has been decreased from 90 to 60.

Don't think is a good move I liked more the 60-minute version, however this year with new cars they probably need these 30 minutes for session back.

I also think this is too long for the viewers on TV, for the spectators at the GrandPrix it is probably better, hard to estimate.

It could easily be that the minutes have been increased again to 90 minutes because of the new cars and tyres, but hopefully they will also increase the number of tyres the teams are allowed to use, otherwise it makes no sense to increase the time except for less driving on the track. Then it will be boring for the spectators again.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on January 17, 2022, 04:45:19 AM

To be honest, those changes are not that important to me because i never really watched the free practices that closely because especially in the FP1 there is not much happening and the times that the drivers and teams achieve there don't mean much. So this may be an important change for the teams in order to make sure that their new car is tested as much as possible for each track, but for the spectators on TV and the bettors it's not really that important. I do like though that in 2022 there are also 6 sprint qualifying planned which are supposed to happen in the first half of the racing season. I think those are a nice little alternation of the usual racing weekend.

We also have to remember that even though cars have a bit of change every single year, they do not have it as much as this years. I mean from 2019 to 2020 I am sure some stuff changed in each car, but this year we are seeing a whole new design. So, it is better to give drivers a 90 minute run, and more tires to choose from as well, that way they can learn more about their own cars.

It doesn't make sense to let them just be whatever they want, it is quite important to actually be decent so that when we watch them we would know that they are doing the best they could possibly do. That extra 30 minutes on each track would mean extra 1.5 hours of driving in a weekend, put that up with 20 races and you got yourself over a whole day of driving given as an extra. Not a bad move, definitely will have the drivers to learn the tracks and the cars much better.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 16, 2022, 04:22:43 PM

Change back in F1.
From next year they will go back on old free practice.

They increase again the duration from 60 to 90 minutes while in 2021 it has been decreased from 90 to 60.

Don't think is a good move I liked more the 60-minute version, however this year with new cars they probably need these 30 minutes for session back.

To be honest, those changes are not that important to me because i never really watched the free practices that closely because especially in the FP1 there is not much happening and the times that the drivers and teams achieve there don't mean much. So this may be an important change for the teams in order to make sure that their new car is tested as much as possible for each track, but for the spectators on TV and the bettors it's not really that important. I do like though that in 2022 there are also 6 sprint qualifying planned which are supposed to happen in the first half of the racing season. I think those are a nice little alternation of the usual racing weekend.

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Change back in F1.
From next year they will go back on old free practice.

They increase again the duration from 60 to 90 minutes while in 2021 it has been decreased from 90 to 60.

Don't think is a good move I liked more the 60-minute version, however this year with new cars they probably need these 30 minutes for session back.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on January 16, 2022, 04:36:39 AM

Having a new mode in F1 will also be a big refreshment for fans, organizations, and also the drivers in my opinion. Yes, there will be haters for a new mode but I think that it's worth a try. As we are not replacing the current mode, if things go south, the new mode could be shut down. But I really want that the better drivers to get rewarded for their driving skills rather than relying on their organization to make a better car.

Like I said earlier, we have that and it is called indycar. People do not watch indycar as much as they watch f1 right now. Which shows you that either f1 is better at marketing, or indycar is not what people really want. There is really no true "competition" in those ones, I mean there is, obviously good racers still win more than bad ones, but it is not hamilton vs max type of deal, there are so many winners and so many different results and nobody dominates at all.

You may think that it is a good thing that nobody dominates, and I would agree that after a certain threshold it is not good, but zero domination also makes it super boring. ANYONE can win any race, and that is not really fun, you want to know where you stand and what are your chances. I am of course just guessing, the only data we have in our hands is that f1 is known a lot more than indycar.

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I would be strongly in favor of such happening.Of course it would be catastrophic to have a Monaco F1 race with the same cars for some but for me would be really beautiful seeing all the drivers with an equal car during this really slow track.The best of where this can happen is in SPA in Belgium,I would love that really fast race with the same car for the drivers.I think it would add to the beauty of a F1 calendar if we held a couple of such events and also the driver will get better recognition and in the top cars any driver would have a chance to go if they show good skills during such events.

It may look impossible for this to happen but it would be very beautiful for us F1 fans.

^ You are right. Having a new mode in F1 will also be a big refreshment for fans, organizations, and also the drivers in my opinion. Yes, there will be haters for a new mode but I think that it's worth a try. As we are not replacing the current mode, if things go south, the new mode could be shut down. But I really want that the better drivers to get rewarded for their driving skills rather than relying on their organization to make a better car.

What mode? Lol. It’s actually going to be dumb imho. Imagine having no competition in car development and with only one car company monopolizing the construction of the cars every year. In that world, Verstappen, Hamilton, Alonso, Sainz, Norris and the rest of the field would all be driving a Ferrari. Cheesy

Anyway... Sainz looks ready to take seat no. 1 at Ferrari. Bad news for Leclerc.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/995374/1/sainz-100-ready-fight-2022-f1-title-ferrari

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What the Honda riders (except Marc Marquez) say about the new RC213V ahead of the first test rides. One focus was on the rear wheel grip, but it will be meaningful at the test rides in Sepang in 3 weeks. So far the Honda riders are happy and see progress, but also the other teams are probably making positive progress/development.

https://www.speedweek.com/amp/motogp/news/186943/Die-neue-RC213V-Das-sagen-die-Honda-Piloten.html

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Quote from: swogerino on January 15, 2022, 06:34:44 AM

I would be strongly in favor of such happening.Of course it would be catastrophic to have a Monaco F1 race with the same cars for some but for me would be really beautiful seeing all the drivers with an equal car during this really slow track.The best of where this can happen is in SPA in Belgium,I would love that really fast race with the same car for the drivers.I think it would add to the beauty of a F1 calendar if we held a couple of such events and also the driver will get better recognition and in the top cars any driver would have a chance to go if they show good skills during such events.

It may look impossible for this to happen but it would be very beautiful for us F1 fans.

^ You are right. Having a new mode in F1 will also be a big refreshment for fans, organizations, and also the drivers in my opinion. Yes, there will be haters for a new mode but I think that it's worth a try. As we are not replacing the current mode, if things go south, the new mode could be shut down. But I really want that the better drivers to get rewarded for their driving skills rather than relying on their organization to make a better car.

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The MotoGP championship this season seems very exciting to watch, even though this season we are no longer accompanied by one of the MotoGP legends, namely Vallentino Rossi (VR46) who has decided to retire, but we don't need to doubt that anymore because this season of course we will continue to be able to watch fierce duel between young riders while on the track, honestly I can't wait for the MotoGP race to be held soon.

Please be patient, mate, because there are many things that you have to see or pass, such as the launch of the livery for each team that will compete in this season, after that there will be a pre-season test that will be held at the Sepang circuit and then followed by another mandalika next month, so it's still ongoing there are many things to look forward to and this is very important to map the strength of each team before the race starts.

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Before deciding to take part in the Sepang and Mandalika Tests in early February, the next step (after trying motocross) Marc will do a test with many laps using the RC213V-S or CBR1000R motorbike as he did before deciding to comeback after a long absence due to a humerus injury.
Usually Marc does it at the Catalunya Circuit.
But don't know when.
This step is taken to determine whether the diplopia problem has completely recovered or not, whether there is a problem or not when driving the motor at high speed.

A few days ago, I also read in one of the foreign media, it was reported that Stefan Bradl will also have a private test in Jerez on January 26-27. Still the same, Bradl is also in preparation for the tests at Sepang and Mandalika.

#ShakeDownTest : January 31 - February 2
#SepangTest : February 5-6
#MandalikaTest : February 11-13

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Yes it's true as you said, this season will probably be the toughest season for Marc Marquez because he has to compete with riders who are younger than him and also have the ability to compete on amazing tracks like Quartararo, Pecco Bagnaia and Jorge Martin, and all three are the best rookies last season and will certainly be a difficult competitor to beat by Marc Marquez.

The best rookie last season was Jorge Martin while Quartararo and Pecco Bagnaia are no longer rookies even though they are still very young and also have good talent, but for this season not only the three of them will be the marquez's toughest opponents, but there are also Joan Mir and Bastianini who have this season then also made a bit of a surprise even though he didn't win Rookie of the year.

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Quote from: alegotardo on January 14, 2022, 06:12:08 PM

I think F1 wouldn't be the same if all cars were the same.
Of course, we have many manufacturers who have cars at a much lower level than others.

However, it is also possible to see that in the best cars, each one has its characteristics that influence a lot in certain opportunities, but it does not make this or that better than the other.
A lot also depends on the circuit and even the weather during the race.

We actually have that. It is called indycar and all cars are give or take the exact same if I am not wrong. Obviously you could have a lot better testing of the tires, or the angles of the wings and all sorts of small tweaks on your car, but all engines, all ers and drs and suspension and whatever else you can imagine is all the same. So, there is absolutely nothing wrong with having the same car for every driver.

However, there is also nothing wrong with having the better car neither, it makes the season a lot more entertaining to watch if you ask me. This is why I believe both of them are good, you could do it either way and as long as there is a close rivalry between drivers, then there is fun involved. The only time it is boring was when Hamilton just had a 100000+ seconds faster car and dominated a few years back, season usually ended like 500 races earlier each season, by like third race you see the difference and you knew he would get it.

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The calendar for next season is out: https://www.crash.net/f1/feature/995354/1/all-f1-2022-dates-preseason-testing-calendar-and-car-launches

The 2022 season kicks off at Bahrain on March 20. Preseason testing is on February 23 - 25 at Barcelona the another one at Bahrain on March 10 - 12. It’s happeniiing...

And Aston Martin is going to be the first team to show their car on February 10. Can’t believe it’s just three weeks or so away. Can’t wait!

And there’s going to be a race in Miami, Florida for the first time ever. I’m not sure if it’s a street circuit or a real track. Hopefully a street circuit.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on January 15, 2022, 06:14:56 AM

Quote from: alegotardo on January 14, 2022, 06:12:08 PM

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But for example, if we give the Merc car to Vettel or someone like that, they will surely get good results there's no denying that. I'm not saying that Vettel is a bad driver but I'm all in for having the same car for everyone.

I think F1 wouldn't be the same if all cars were the same.
Of course, we have many manufacturers who have cars at a much lower level than others.

However, it is also possible to see that in the best cars, each one has its characteristics that influence a lot in certain opportunities, but it does not make this or that better than the other.
A lot also depends on the circuit and even the weather during the race.

^ Yes, we have both pros and cons to both ideas - same cars and different cars. But I think what if F1 decides to have both types of races? 'Where the current one is still there and they add a new event or type where all the cars are same. That will truly give the better drivers their acknowledgment. I'm not saying that the current situation where there are different cars is a bad one, but what I'm saying is they can have another mode where the cars are the same.

I would be strongly in favor of such happening.Of course it would be catastrophic to have a Monaco F1 race with the same cars for some but for me would be really beautiful seeing all the drivers with an equal car during this really slow track.The best of where this can happen is in SPA in Belgium,I would love that really fast race with the same car for the drivers.I think it would add to the beauty of a F1 calendar if we held a couple of such events and also the driver will get better recognition and in the top cars any driver would have a chance to go if they show good skills during such events.

It may look impossible for this to happen but it would be very beautiful for us F1 fans.

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Quote from: alegotardo on January 14, 2022, 06:12:08 PM

Quote from: CryptoBuds on January 14, 2022, 09:42:49 AM

But for example, if we give the Merc car to Vettel or someone like that, they will surely get good results there's no denying that. I'm not saying that Vettel is a bad driver but I'm all in for having the same car for everyone.

I think F1 wouldn't be the same if all cars were the same.
Of course, we have many manufacturers who have cars at a much lower level than others.

However, it is also possible to see that in the best cars, each one has its characteristics that influence a lot in certain opportunities, but it does not make this or that better than the other.
A lot also depends on the circuit and even the weather during the race.

^ Yes, we have both pros and cons to both ideas - same cars and different cars. But I think what if F1 decides to have both types of races? 'Where the current one is still there and they add a new event or type where all the cars are same. That will truly give the better drivers their acknowledgment. I'm not saying that the current situation where there are different cars is a bad one, but what I'm saying is they can have another mode where the cars are the same.

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@gresiniracing officially launched the motorbike for 2022 what do you think about the livery??

From 1-10 how much do you give for the livery @gresiniracing this 2022 season??

Personally, overall it's pretty good, although there are a few red lines that interfere with the color, and maybe that's also the default from the factory Ducati this time Cheesy

The problem is that the Gresini team uses the Ducati GP21 spec which was used by the Ducati manufacturer itself last year.

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Quote from: bounceback on January 15, 2022, 01:04:31 AM

Marc Marquez's current condition seems to have improved so that makes me very sure Marquez will take part in the pre-season test which will take place soon at the Sepang Malaysia circuit and will also appear again for the 2022 Moto GP championship, as we know Marc Marquez is one of the racers who is thirsty for won the title and has a strong mentality so that he will do his best this season even though the injury has not fully recovered.

Marquez's efforts in recovering from his injury are very good and also very good because he has been able to do warm-up exercises with his motorbike and also physically.
But don't forget that for this year there are many good riders who are also hungry to win and always want to be better than others and this is a new challenge for Marquez in terms of fighting many riders who are younger than him.

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With this progress, Marquez got permission to ride a motorbike and as we know Marquez and his team agreed to choose Motocross to start training after a three month absence.

Will Marc be taking part in the Pre-season Test in Sepang, Malaysia (5-6 February 2022) Huh

Marc Marquez's current condition seems to have improved so that makes me very sure Marquez will take part in the pre-season test which will take place soon at the Sepang Malaysia circuit and will also appear again for the 2022 Moto GP championship, as we know Marc Marquez is one of the racers who is thirsty for won the title and has a strong mentality so that he will do his best this season even though the injury has not fully recovered.

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After undergoing a medical examination with Dr Sánchez Dalmau last Monday to analyze his diplopia situation. And Dr Sanchez also confirmed a clear improvement with Marc Marquez's condition.

With this progress, Marquez got permission to ride a motorbike and as we know Marquez and his team agreed to choose Motocross to start training after a three month absence.

Will Marc be taking part in the Pre-season Test in Sepang, Malaysia (5-6 February 2022) Huh

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on January 14, 2022, 09:42:49 AM

But for example, if we give the Merc car to Vettel or someone like that, they will surely get good results there's no denying that. I'm not saying that Vettel is a bad driver but I'm all in for having the same car for everyone.

I think F1 wouldn't be the same if all cars were the same.
Of course, we have many manufacturers who have cars at a much lower level than others.

However, it is also possible to see that in the best cars, each one has its characteristics that influence a lot in certain opportunities, but it does not make this or that better than the other.
A lot also depends on the circuit and even the weather during the race.

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