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Next face is the same, you need power for this and next track. But congratulation for Hamilton bis 98 pole position. He can make the 100 pole this year 

As expected in this track the engine is too important and because is the main problem for Ferrari they got trouble to pass the Q2.

Is not to be embarassing, they can't touch the engine so they can't do anything to avoid this performance.

I'm surpice by the decison of Ferrari to be favorable for a possible engine freeze.

I think they have ace in their pocket for the new engine of 2022? to be consider this solution or at the current situation make no sense at all.

Ferrari today was really embarrassing, both cars out in Q2 of qualifying was something to avoid,I would have expected something more from Leclerc at least, but today everything was terrible. Vettel said to think about tomorrow, but with this car, already entering the top 10 would be a miracle

Free practice 2...

As told you this track seems to be very engine dependent so Ferrari will be back in the grid from what we can see for the moment.


2020 Bahrain Grand Prix - Free Practice 2 results
Pos    Driver    Team    Time    Gap    Laps
1    Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    1:28.971s       28
2    Max Verstappen    Red Bull    1:29.318s    + 0.347s    34
3    Valtteri Bottas    Mercedes    1:29.336s    + 0.365s    30
4    Sergio Pérez    Racing Point    1:29.403s    + 0.432s    32
5    Daniel Ricciardo    Renault    1:29.462s    + 0.491s    27
6    Pierre Gasly    AlphaTauri    1:29.551s    + 0.580s    36
7    Lando Norris    McLaren    1:29.841s    + 0.870s    30
8    Lance Stroll    Racing Point    1:29.871s    + 0.900s    32
9    Daniil Kvyat    AlphaTauri    1:29.900s    + 0.929s    34
10    Alexander Albon    Red Bull    1:30.014s    + 1.043s    17
11    Esteban Ocon    Renault    1:30.085s    + 1.114s    30
12    Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    1:30.110s    + 1.139s    35
13    Carlos Sainz    McLaren    1:30.271s    + 1.300s    33
14    Charles Leclerc    Ferrari    1:30.407s    + 1.436s    30
15    Antonio Giovinazzi    Alfa Romeo    1:30.627s    + 1.656s    33
16    Kevin Magnussen    Haas    1:30.849s    + 1.878s    27
17    Kimi Räikkönen    Alfa Romeo    1:30.928s    + 1.957s    34
18    Nicholas Latifi    Williams    1:30.973s    + 2.002s    32
19    Romain Grosjean    Haas    1:31.119s    + 2.148s    28
20    George Russell    Williams    1:31.636s    + 2.665s    29


Source https://f1i.com/news/391042-bahrain-grand-prix-free-practice-2-results.html

I wonder about this news Form Ferrari, they also now for the engine freeze from 2022  

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-now-in-favour-of-f1-engine-freeze-from-2022/4916921/

Also Horner from RedBull speak about the engine freeze

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/horner-important-f1-engine-freeze-doesnt-lock-in-disadvantages/4917159/

But i don't unterstand Ferrari or the believe at his engine for the next year?

it is incredible to see how ferrari managed to be competitive last grand prix and is now back in 12th and 14th position in the second session. it's just free practice, but I don't think things will improve much during qualifying tomorrow, let's hope at least they both manage to qualify for Q3

Most of the talk will be about Mercedes in this race. They have awesome engines for this track.
It is very important to brake correctly to win in Bahrain. We have seen it in practices, tires can determine the winner in this race. Bahrain is really fast track, it will be a very enjoyable race if it does not rain

Free practice 1 completed, in this track, the engine is important so Mercedes engines are dominating

1    44    Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    1:29.033       40
2    77    Valtteri Bottas    Mercedes    1:29.482    +0.449s    41
3    11    Sergio Perez    Racing Point BWT Mercedes    1:30.000    +0.967s    31
4    55    Carlos Sainz    McLaren Renault    1:30.018    +0.985s    31
5    10    Pierre Gasly    AlphaTauri Honda    1:30.049    +1.016s    34
6    33    Max Verstappen    Red Bull Racing Honda    1:30.294    +1.261s    18
7    23    Alexander Albon    Red Bull Racing Honda    1:30.302    +1.269s    34
8    31    Esteban Ocon    Renault    1:30.384    +1.351s    28
9    18    Lance Stroll    Racing Point BWT Mercedes    1:30.426    +1.393s    30
10    3    Daniel Ricciardo    Renault    1:30.508    +1.475s    30
11    16    Charles Leclerc    Ferrari    1:30.589    +1.556s    29
12    5    Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    1:30.628    +1.595s    24
13    88    Robert Kubica    Alfa Romeo Racing Ferrari    1:30.732    +1.699s    24
14    8    Romain Grosjean    Haas Ferrari    1:30.832    +1.799s    28
15    20    Kevin Magnussen    Haas Ferrari    1:30.854    +1.821s    29
16    99    Antonio Giovinazzi    Alfa Romeo Racing Ferrari    1:30.896    +1.863s    27
17    26    Daniil Kvyat    AlphaTauri Honda    1:31.020    +1.987s    37
18    4    Lando Norris    McLaren Renault    1:31.392    +2.359s    27
19    6    Nicholas Latifi    Williams Mercedes    1:32.472    +3.439s    29
20    40    Roy Nissany    Williams Mercedes    1:32.801    +3.768s    27


Source: https://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2020/races/1059/bahrain/practice-1.html


Free practice 2 starts in  1 hour ish

I'm a little excited about the last races, but I think they are rather unspectacular. Everything is actually decided and most of the teams and drivers are probably already in their heads for the next season?

When you haven't gotten the trophy yet, but you need to lift something due to your happiness! 
Congats to this amazing man - athlete! More championships are about to come for him in the future.

Congratulations to him but these type of Champions will not be remembered for long.These type of Champions are dictated from circumstances.In normal conditions and with all the drivers participating probably he would not be a Champion.Still he is the best of the rest as there are other good riders who could oppose him but they couldn’t.

Yes, rain is unlikely.  It is a shame, because those rainy races are really exciting and do help to negate the effect of having a superior car... it's more about the quality of the driver. It's no coincidence that the drivers who did well last time out were the experienced old hands like Hamilton, Perez and Vettel.

yesterday I read an interview with mir on an Italian newspaper, I honestly didn't like it.

I start by saying that whoever wins is always right, but Mir must admit that this world championship has been nothing short of particular, a few races, one after the other, always different winners and above all there was no marquez.


mir said "marquez was not kidnapped, if he didn't race it was his mistake". this is partly true, Marquez is not a doctor and was probably badly advised, but in my opinion, if the championship is normal in 2021, with the return of Marquez, Mir will not win a race

Yeah right is night anyway it can be delayed for even 4 hours who cares, night is night  .

Rumors of Today: In 2021 car IDK for what reason since they should be the same as this year will lose 10% of drag force BUT Merdeces is rumored to already earned this loss on next year car project.

I don't believe that there will be rain during race weekend. But even if it will be, it's not a problem if they will havevto delay race. First race is scheduled at 5 PM local time and second race will start on 8 PM. So, it will be night races like in Singapore or Abu Dhabi.

Fan fact.

THE next F1 Gp will be in Bahrain where it rains like 1 day a year...
For now, the theater condition for the second weekend is rain. It will probably not happens but is a chance.

And if it will rain it will a mess, remember the GP will be run at the same hour but we have a different timezone and it actually is late evening/early night there.

With the rain the can't run at night and if it will happen the race will be deleted.

Congratulations to Joan Mir, he is MotoGp world champion of the Year. Too bad I didn't watch this last race. Congratulations also to Ducati for being the Constructors champion. This ended the monopoly between Yamaha and Honda for several seasons. Apart from that the races this season are very interesting because we have 7 series winners in 14 races if I don't miscalculate. It is also interesting that the dominance of the satellite team this season is beyond my predictions. The satellite racers performed amazingly, see Morbidelli he was in the runner-up position, Miler was followed (in 7th position), Quartararo (in 8th position), Oliveira (in 9th position), and Takaaki Nakagami (in 10th position). I think they will be tough rivals next season.

No talk or nobody watch the MotoGP race at Portimao at this amazing track? Sorry for all Fans from Portugal, the local matador Oliveira have a very impressive start-stop victory and at the middle field very good fights.

I don't think he can't.
It's like Nutella must sell his recipe to other competitors to avoid their bankruptcy.

Why on earth the best team need to sell the best engine to create the best competitor for themself?

I agree with you that it was not only engine, but a mix of much more variables at once. No only car, engine and Vettel. Lots of blood happened in the team and leadership behind the closed doors it seems and that resulted in this terrible season. I expect much more competitive team next season, despite it being the "transition" season.