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Quote from: ingiltere on November 14, 2020, 08:27:54 AM

We might see a normal standing at pole again. People expected surprises in these conditions but familiar faces in Top 5 again in Q2.

Bad luck for Grosjean and Latifi at Q1.

Some cars still have intermediate tires, I don't understand this choice. They will be eliminated probably. Hoping to see faster times in Q3.

What a qualification with Stroll at pipe. Who expected that Shocked

1. Stroll 1.47.765
2.Verstappen 1.48.055
3. Perez 1.49.321
4. Albon 1.50.448
5. Ricciardo 1.51.595
6. Hamilton 1.52.560
7. Ocon 1.52.622
8. Raikkonen 1.52.745
9. Bottas 1.53.258
10 Giovinazzi 1.57.226

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We might see a normal standing at pole again. People expected surprises in these conditions but familiar faces in Top 5 again in Q2.

Bad luck for Grosjean and Latifi at Q1.

Some cars still have intermediate tires, I don't understand this choice. They will be eliminated probably. Hoping to see faster times in Q3.

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Quote from: xzone on November 14, 2020, 04:25:32 AM

Istanbul will be rainy on Sunday [...] Races held under difficult conditions are always more enjoyable and we may encounter surprises

Races in wet weather are often more exciting, yes. Rain also tends to highlight the differences in raw talent between the drivers. Expect Ham and Verstappen to do very well in heavy rain, Bottas and Vettel to struggle.
There is also the added issue of the newly resurfaced track, and leaking bitumen causing a greasy surface even in dry weather... not sure if the rain will lessen this or make it worse, but either way we're set up for an interesting race!

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FP3 this morning with the following results

https://f1i.com/news/389917-turkish-grand-prix-free-practice-3-results.html

Source: rain was present and maybe heavy raining in the qualify, if they can't run they can use this as a starting grid.

If they run it will a fun hour with a very slippery track even if it will not rain.

Quote from: marioantonini on November 13, 2020, 05:02:56 PM

i think is different, Rosberg retired only because have win a world champions and he knew it was going to be hard to win aother time. Hamilton wants to become the new legend in history and create records that will be hard to destroid for the next 20 years.
my dream would be to see a good driver alongside hamilton, like Russell or Lando Norris

Yep but he retire while he had a 40m $ from his contract in due years...

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FP3 this morning with the following results

https://f1i.com/news/389917-turkish-grand-prix-free-practice-3-results.html

Source: rain was present and maybe heavy raining in the qualify, if they can't run they can use this as a starting grid.

If they run it will a fun hour with a very slippery track even if it will not rain.

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When we look at the weather, we see that Istanbul will be rainy on Sunday Sad

Most of the racers mentioned that the road was slippery during the test drives on Friday. Drivers who struggle at Turn 8 even without rain may have a big problem if it rains on Sunday.

Tire performances and pitstop times will be very important in tomorrow's race. I haven't been this excited about any race in a long time! Races held under difficult conditions are always more enjoyable and we may encounter surprises

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Quote from: dre1982 on November 13, 2020, 04:44:21 AM

Wondering top 3.

Even Vettel was at #5. Don't know what Ferrari did, but it works.

You know that Mercedes is going to be on the two out of those three pictures during the weekend.
Istanbul Park is a fast track this is why redbull and ferrari seems to be on the top of the standings during free practice however, during the race we are going to see strategies taking place in which Mercedes is the best at.

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Quote from: marioantonini on November 13, 2020, 05:02:56 PM

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3 years ago Rosberg with 2 more years in his contract with the best car and around 40 more $ milions in contracts for the following 2 years gave up.

i think is different, Rosberg retired only because have win a world champions and he knew it was going to be hard to win aother time.

This is my perspective, too. Rosberg was second best to Hamilton, and he knew it. The only reason he became champion was because Ham had a succession of bad luck that season that cost him the title. Even so, Rosberg only just won it. He knew if he stayed, then Ham would continue to beat him. So he chose to leave as reigning world champion instead.

Rosberg was definitely a better driver than Bottas, although Bottas is more of a team player, and helps to get the best out of Hamilton.

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Quote from: marioantonini on November 14, 2020, 12:10:48 AM

Quote from: aesma on November 13, 2020, 06:35:22 PM

Well the best driver aside from Hamilton right now is obviously Verstappen.

Imagine Verstappen at Mercedes, that would be fun ! A bit like Hamilton/Alonso at McLaren. Cost them the driver title, however...

it would be a dream but he Hamilton will never accept having Verstappen as a teammate.

in 2006, with alonso in the team, Lewis lost the world championship by a few points, because he also had to fight against his teammate, but it was a fantastic show.

i hope mercedes will get some competitive drivers at least in 2022

That is in 2007 and not in 2006 and unfortunately Lewis lost only by one point.Kimi Raikonnen won the Championship of 2007 just by one point.Lewis and Fernando both had 107 points and Kimi had 108 if I remember correctly.It was Lewis first year with McLaren.Hamilton will not care about the team mate as long as he has a competitive car just like the above example of the year 2007 in which although Lewis a newcomer to F1 didn’t give a damn about his team mate which was a World Champion in 2006.

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Looking forward to qualies today! Would love to have a rainy qualies and a rainy race to spice this even more Cheesy

I have a feeling this will be an epic return to Turkey with a completely crazy race Cheesy

Seems like Haas signem Mick and Nikita Mazepin. Good news for me.

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Quote from: aesma on November 13, 2020, 06:35:22 PM

Well the best driver aside from Hamilton right now is obviously Verstappen.

Imagine Verstappen at Mercedes, that would be fun ! A bit like Hamilton/Alonso at McLaren. Cost them the driver title, however...

it would be a dream but he Hamilton will never accept having Verstappen as a teammate.

in 2006, with alonso in the team, Lewis lost the world championship by a few points, because he also had to fight against his teammate, but it was a fantastic show.

i hope mercedes will get some competitive drivers at least in 2022

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Well the best driver aside from Hamilton right now is obviously Verstappen.

Imagine Verstappen at Mercedes, that would be fun ! A bit like Hamilton/Alonso at McLaren. Cost them the driver title, however...

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Quote from: sana54210 on November 13, 2020, 03:54:58 PM

Hamilton will surely sign again and with 2021 being tech limited, he will have the best car again and considering he is Hamilton and he has best car dude will get the title once again, at this point I am not watching to see who will be first because we know who will be the first, I am watching to see if anything exciting will happen under him.

Not sure about it, it depends and we have a previous in recent history.

3 years ago Rosberg with 2 more years in his contract with the best car and around 40 more $ milions in contracts for the following 2 years gave up.

Anything can happen but I think he will continue with Mercedes it will too stupid to retire now when he can beat basically every record in the F1.

i think is different, Rosberg retired only because have win a world champions and he knew it was going to be hard to win aother time. Hamilton wants to become the new legend in history and create records that will be hard to destroid for the next 20 years.
my dream would be to see a good driver alongside hamilton, like Russell or Lando Norris

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Quote from: sana54210 on November 13, 2020, 03:54:58 PM

Hamilton will surely sign again and with 2021 being tech limited, he will have the best car again and considering he is Hamilton and he has best car dude will get the title once again, at this point I am not watching to see who will be first because we know who will be the first, I am watching to see if anything exciting will happen under him.

Not sure about it, it depends and we have a previous in recent history.

3 years ago Rosberg with 2 more years in his contract with the best car and around 40 more $ milions in contracts for the following 2 years gave up.

Anything can happen but I think he will continue with Mercedes it will too stupid to retire now when he can beat basically every record in the F1.

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Hamilton will surely sign again and with 2021 being tech limited, he will have the best car again and considering he is Hamilton and he has best car dude will get the title once again, at this point I am not watching to see who will be first because we know who will be the first, I am watching to see if anything exciting will happen under him.

I am a big fan of Lando Norris myself because I like watching him at twitch, and he has been doing very well this season, next year I am hoping to see him do even better, I hope he will become a top 3 driver only behind awesome Mercedes cars (which is unlikely I know but one can hope!).

Ferrari on the other hand needs to have improvements beyond limitations, like limitations are already there yet they are so far away, so limitations are not the reason why their cars suck, they could improve even right now if they could but fail, so maybe new designer could change that.

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Quote from: dre1982 on November 13, 2020, 10:51:05 AM

Normally if Hamilton is complaining that he doesn't have any grip he gets the fastest laps.

Yes, that definitely happens during races!
This time it sounds different. Bit of a weird one, but apparently the track was resurfaced only a couple of weeks ago, and is leaking bitumen which is making the surface a bit greasy and causing loss of grip and some spins. Sounds like the sort of thing that isn't going to get rectified in time for the race. Could be chaos on Sunday!

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Quote from: aesma on November 13, 2020, 10:47:49 AM

If Ferrari has done something to their engine (new oil injection ?) they haven't done it to the other teams running a customer engine...

They can't touch the engine with the new regulation.
If you have a bad new engine at the start of the season you need to carry it till the next year.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 13, 2020, 10:30:08 AM

Free practice 2 done and a decent Ferrari, if they only can touch the engine...

Source; https://f1i.com/news/389711-turkish-grand-prix-free-practice-2-results.html

Mercedes not so strong so far they seem to be have a "difficult" time with the low grip

Normally if Hamilton is complaining that he doesn't have any grip he gets the fastest laps.

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If Ferrari has done something to their engine (new oil injection ?) they haven't done it to the other teams running a customer engine...

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Free practice 2 done and a decent Ferrari, if they only can touch the engine...

Source; https://f1i.com/news/389711-turkish-grand-prix-free-practice-2-results.html

Mercedes not so strong so far they seem to be have a "difficult" time with the low grip

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