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How good? Is he as good as Charles Leclerc or Max Verstappen? It might be too early for him. However, he can become the 3rd Ferrari driver or the test driver hehehe. But that would not be the best for him being the son of Michael Schumacher.

@coinlocket$. Lewis should go back to McLaren and help them after all his success hehe.

Let's see what happens, if he wins the 2020 title he will stay there to trying to beat Schumacher, but if he loses...

Vettel contract will end in 2021.
Hamilton contract will end in 2021.

If he wants to leave Mercedes can do nothing about it.

Use google translate on this https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/formula-1/2019/09/06-60806516/hamilton_apre_alla_ferrari_se_lascio_la_mercedes_/

If all these changes will be done can happen 2 things, well 3 things.

- If new cars of 2021 will be to slow they will need to increase the power, remember when Moto 2 was near to MotoGP lap times? they increase the power from 800cc to 1000cc.
The same will/can happen with F2 and F1

- If too many changes will lead to the unification of many parts, like gears and motor majorly, the top team will leave and they will create their own championship.
Ferrari Mercedes Renault will never race with a motor made by another house. NEVER.

Everything will stay the same and nothing changes politically.

You are definitely crazy man!
Hamilton is not going to sign for Ferrari... Never... Mercedes is not going to let that happen.
Leclerc has better performance compared to Vettel this season and I think he should definitely be No1 driver in the team.

Side note about the F1 changes
IMO the tire (or tyre depending on where you are) changes are going to make a very large difference.
Going from 13" to 18" is going to radically change how the cars handle and move overall.

Yeah the aerodynamic changes will matter with the down-force, yeah grid position can make things more interesting. But a major change to the rubber is going to be the race very different.

Once again, IMO.

-Dave

This is not going to happen, there always need an experienced driver on a Top team.
Call me crazy but if Hamilton will lose the next championship, I see Hamilton on Ferrari in 2021 till the end of his career.
Call me crazy as much you want but everyone wants the Ferrari and if lose next year for him is will almost impossible to beat the Shumi record.

Vettel's cycle is almost ready, and 2020 is a good time to make a substitute in Ferrari.
Mick Schumacher has an amazing performance in Formula 2 and it would be a good addition to the driver's competition. He will probably be a great duo with Leclerc.

Yes, there are a bunch of new proposed rule chnages for 2021.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.2021-f1-rules-the-proposed-blueprint-for-racings-future.1Yaz5mXGa4RqEzyCt8meC2.html

Not sure if they are all 100% going to make it into the 2021 season but it's what they are pushing for.
Not all change is good.

-Dave

Vettel's current contract expires in 2020, he will be replaced by THE Son, Mick Schumacher.

Mick is doing great in Formula 2, and I can't wait to see him in F1

Has anyone heard about some crazy new rule for next season in formula 1. Commentary on local TV for last F1 race mentioned something about new grid order for next season that is on paper for the moment. The thing is that qualifying would be like this format every third race. For second and third race grid would be from opposite, first would be last in the grid. From one perspective we could have interesting races with lots of overtaking, but also think we could lose something else. Maybe we will see more SC in the race, but this is something not worth it more like touring car championship they have two races and opposite grid.

Totally agreed.
On the other side, Mercedes' strategy was built on giving advantage to Hamilton.
Hopefully, Ferrari was the fastest team on track and secured the 1-2 podium places.

Ferrari did the strategy with Vettel to save his position from Hamilton.

LeClerc was stopped 2 laps after in that time Vettel went very fast and did the undercut not only on Lewis but on Leclerc too.
They did the strategy to beat Mercedes without favoriting the leader.

They did a race for the team and not for the single. Great result, too bad is too late for the championship.

It was kind of a boring race yesterday.
Such a pitty for Lecrelc who lost the first place from his teammate. i don't think it was a strategy mistake from Ferrari. Vettel was just some seconds faster and passed him when he was in the pitstop.

I think team orders should be penalized heavily as they take away a big part of racing adrenaline of they were not given to the second drivers of the team.Yesterday it was explicitly told to Leclerc to not do anything stupid and he followed for sometimes this year.The team which has given most team orders in history is without a doubt Ferrari.

This is a big true.
I have a light memory on the season 2007, the season where they had Alonso and Hamilton on McLaren Mercedes, they started to prefer him there.
Hamilton was a British, pilot. The 1st black man who could win the title.
I remember at one time Alonso said "Or me or Hamilton here", the next year Alonso left the team only after 1 year back to Renault.

The kept Hamilton over a 2 times world's champion.

Bottas signed new contract with Mercedes, it probably shows that he is happy with his role. Money is probably big factor too. It's quite obvious that Bottas is average driver in great car, and even if he would get same status like Hamilton, I don't see him fighting for title.
Rosberg story was different. He was very talented driver with big ambitions and he had different status than Bottas. But it's obvious that Mercedes always favoured Lewis.

Yes, this is his role but as a driver do you will do it?
If you accept a deal like this one you will do only for money, there is no other reason for a driver to refuse the possibility of winning.
I remember the years of Redbull with Webber and Vettel, was a duel on every race.
Also, remember Rosberg and Hamilton, Lewis is not the only winner of the title win Mercedes on the last 5years.

Well, it was quite boring race without much action, we only saw true racing in the middle of peloton. Ferrari decision to pit Vettel first was crucial in this race. And I don't know why Charles is so unhappy, because in previous few races Ferrari favoured him. This win after such long break was very needed for Vettel.

Bottas know where he is going and his role to be second driver of Mercedes. Team order sucks, but in past we also saw such things with obvious 2nd driver in Ferrari (Barichelo, Massa) or RedBull (Webber).

Great race for the Ferrari, they won with strategy.

Vettel was lucky to be on the best spot at the best time otherwise LeCreck won the race.
Mercedes in very bad space and no comment on Bottas he is so bad driver with no balls. He can't do anything to hurt a position to Hamilton.

Is very hard for Ferrari to fight for the title now but they seem in a very good position, mentally and with the last upgrade to the car, with the car too.
Too bad is very late on the season.

2019 FORMULA 1 SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX - RACE RESULTS

POS   DRIVER   NAT   TEAM   TIME

1   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   61 laps
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   +2.641s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   +3.821s
4   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   +4.608s
5   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   +6.119s
6   Alexander Albon   THA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   +11.663s
7   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   +14.769s
8   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   +15.547s
9   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   +16.718s
10   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   +17.855s
11   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   +35.436s
12   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   +35.974s
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   +36.419s
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   +37.660s
15   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   +38.178s
16   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   +47.024s
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   +1m 26.522s
RET   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   
RET   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   
RET   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing