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sr. member
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June 06, 2016, 08:26:03 AM
BlBlabla blablabla and 13btc gone
member
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June 06, 2016, 03:16:44 AM
So why in the world you deposit a such ammount on primedice only because people said you should show them you really have this much money?

If this is true, have you considered that your account may have been compromised before you even made the deposit? The user who suggested that you deposit to PD to show your money may be the perpetrator here.

On a side note, next time you feel like flaunting your "wealth" just sign a message from your own address.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
June 05, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
i think many gambling site now will be turn to scam now because of price hike.. i feel sorry for you. this is the same scenario in cloudbet. :/
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
June 05, 2016, 08:00:18 PM
sorry to hear that 13btc lost...hope this will be put into action s well..cheers
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
June 05, 2016, 06:57:00 PM


And reason why we allow that is that we dont want to limit ours customers. We want you to have freedom of protecting your privacy using vpn on pc, laptop, phone and you can have different ip on each of them.
Besides doesn't matter if its in the same time.

Restrictions like that are not needed if players protect theirs accounts.

If you have very strong password , 2fA and safe pc. And you don't fall for pshising attacks you will never have problems keeping your accounts safe.
Even strong password without 2fA is enough .

You're probably right.

Do you ask for a 2FA code when withdrawing?

If you don't you should.

I doubt it - 2FA is usually all or nothing for most sites.... Many people don't have a smartphone, so they must use a password.
hero member
Activity: 519
Merit: 500
June 05, 2016, 06:32:01 PM


And reason why we allow that is that we dont want to limit ours customers. We want you to have freedom of protecting your privacy using vpn on pc, laptop, phone and you can have different ip on each of them.
Besides doesn't matter if its in the same time.

Restrictions like that are not needed if players protect theirs accounts.

If you have very strong password , 2fA and safe pc. And you don't fall for pshising attacks you will never have problems keeping your accounts safe.
Even strong password without 2fA is enough .

You're probably right.

Do you ask for a 2FA code when withdrawing?

If you don't you should.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
June 05, 2016, 05:15:44 PM
Oky, I got all clear for this.

IP that stolen his bitcoins is:    45.219.114.86
Let me know if i should contact forum admins or you will stolee.

I also decided to get the IPs from all other cases when money got stolen and send them in a list to forum admins to try and find some matches.
I know its a slim chance since most of them are somewhat smart enough to use vpn but still wont hurt to try.

Good idea!

I hope you can catch some scammers.

But you never replied to my question:



I originally had 6 BTC which I gambled up to 13. Anything near 6 BTC is good to me, because now I'm fucking broke left with nothing and it's not my fault it's PRIMEDICE'. Why do they allow a different IP to log on simultaneously? Why do they not country lock? Why do they not verify big withdrawals?

Is this true? 2 IPs from different countries logged at the same time and you still allowed a withdrawal?

Actually, if we include Stolee's, then 3 people with 3 different IPs from 3 different country logged on at the same time.
There may have just been two people (or one if you suspect it was Stolee - which is unlikely).
Good idea!
Thank you!

Micro or Stolee, could you post the IP addresses that were not Stolee's or pass them to a staff member on the forum to see if they can track down the user who stole the coins and/or the Bitcoin address the coins were sent to?
That is the only real way that this can be resolved.
It may also be useful for you primedice team to view how the account could have been compromised like you said above in order to get a greater insight as to how the Bitcoins were taken.


Hm, well that is a good idea. But i will have to ask Admins if i can disclose such information. I honestly don't see why not.
I will update on this as soon as i hear from them.

What do you mean 3 people ?

It would be only him and the attacker.

And reason why we allow that is that we dont want to limit ours customers. We want you to have freedom of protecting your privacy using vpn on pc, laptop, phone and you can have different ip on each of them.
Besides doesn't matter if its in the same time.

Restrictions like that are not needed if players protect theirs accounts.

If you have very strong password , 2fA and safe pc. And you don't fall for pshising attacks you will never have problems keeping your accounts safe.
Even strong password without 2fA is enough .

2FA does take a lot of time though.. Not to the value of 13BTC though!
There could be 3 people if the attacker worked in a group, as poeple don't tend to do phishing attempts on their won, it is better to get more people as it is more believable.
Also, using an extra person makes it look like his password is really weak as three people got it!
Also, can you by any chance also post the Addresses that these were sent to as users of this forum don't hae access to IPs but do have access to searching the addresses.
You may want to send the information to admins and some moderators and members of staff to see if they can find it to remove the pressure from the Admins to do all of the tasks.

Stolee posted transactions somewhere here. Check first posts.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
June 05, 2016, 05:07:46 PM

What do you mean 3 people ?

It would be only him and the attacker.

And reason why we allow that is that we dont want to limit ours customers. We want you to have freedom of protecting your privacy using vpn on pc, laptop, phone and you can have different ip on each of them.
Besides doesn't matter if its in the same time.

Restrictions like that are not needed if players protect theirs accounts.

If you have very strong password , 2fA and safe pc. And you don't fall for pshising attacks you will never have problems keeping your accounts safe.
Even strong password without 2fA is enough .


This ^^^^, 100%... I think half these guys are just posting for sig campaigns here... People also get key logged too, so who knows when they stole his password or even how long it's been the same or existed but you guys I guess.  Tongue
copper member
Activity: 2856
Merit: 3071
https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
June 05, 2016, 05:01:40 PM
Oky, I got all clear for this.

IP that stolen his bitcoins is:    45.219.114.86
Let me know if i should contact forum admins or you will stolee.

I also decided to get the IPs from all other cases when money got stolen and send them in a list to forum admins to try and find some matches.
I know its a slim chance since most of them are somewhat smart enough to use vpn but still wont hurt to try.

Good idea!

I hope you can catch some scammers.

But you never replied to my question:



I originally had 6 BTC which I gambled up to 13. Anything near 6 BTC is good to me, because now I'm fucking broke left with nothing and it's not my fault it's PRIMEDICE'. Why do they allow a different IP to log on simultaneously? Why do they not country lock? Why do they not verify big withdrawals?

Is this true? 2 IPs from different countries logged at the same time and you still allowed a withdrawal?

Actually, if we include Stolee's, then 3 people with 3 different IPs from 3 different country logged on at the same time.
There may have just been two people (or one if you suspect it was Stolee - which is unlikely).
Good idea!
Thank you!

Micro or Stolee, could you post the IP addresses that were not Stolee's or pass them to a staff member on the forum to see if they can track down the user who stole the coins and/or the Bitcoin address the coins were sent to?
That is the only real way that this can be resolved.
It may also be useful for you primedice team to view how the account could have been compromised like you said above in order to get a greater insight as to how the Bitcoins were taken.


Hm, well that is a good idea. But i will have to ask Admins if i can disclose such information. I honestly don't see why not.
I will update on this as soon as i hear from them.

What do you mean 3 people ?

It would be only him and the attacker.

And reason why we allow that is that we dont want to limit ours customers. We want you to have freedom of protecting your privacy using vpn on pc, laptop, phone and you can have different ip on each of them.
Besides doesn't matter if its in the same time.

Restrictions like that are not needed if players protect theirs accounts.

If you have very strong password , 2fA and safe pc. And you don't fall for pshising attacks you will never have problems keeping your accounts safe.
Even strong password without 2fA is enough .

2FA does take a lot of time though.. Not to the value of 13BTC though!
There could be 3 people if the attacker worked in a group, as poeple don't tend to do phishing attempts on their won, it is better to get more people as it is more believable.
Also, using an extra person makes it look like his password is really weak as three people got it!
Also, can you by any chance also post the Addresses that these were sent to as users of this forum don't hae access to IPs but do have access to searching the addresses.
You may want to send the information to admins and some moderators and members of staff to see if they can find it to remove the pressure from the Admins to do all of the tasks.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
June 05, 2016, 04:19:25 PM
Oky, I got all clear for this.

IP that stolen his bitcoins is:    45.219.114.86
Let me know if i should contact forum admins or you will stolee.

I also decided to get the IPs from all other cases when money got stolen and send them in a list to forum admins to try and find some matches.
I know its a slim chance since most of them are somewhat smart enough to use vpn but still wont hurt to try.

Good idea!

I hope you can catch some scammers.

But you never replied to my question:



I originally had 6 BTC which I gambled up to 13. Anything near 6 BTC is good to me, because now I'm fucking broke left with nothing and it's not my fault it's PRIMEDICE'. Why do they allow a different IP to log on simultaneously? Why do they not country lock? Why do they not verify big withdrawals?

Is this true? 2 IPs from different countries logged at the same time and you still allowed a withdrawal?

Actually, if we include Stolee's, then 3 people with 3 different IPs from 3 different country logged on at the same time.
There may have just been two people (or one if you suspect it was Stolee - which is unlikely).
Good idea!
Thank you!

Micro or Stolee, could you post the IP addresses that were not Stolee's or pass them to a staff member on the forum to see if they can track down the user who stole the coins and/or the Bitcoin address the coins were sent to?
That is the only real way that this can be resolved.
It may also be useful for you primedice team to view how the account could have been compromised like you said above in order to get a greater insight as to how the Bitcoins were taken.


Hm, well that is a good idea. But i will have to ask Admins if i can disclose such information. I honestly don't see why not.
I will update on this as soon as i hear from them.

What do you mean 3 people ?

It would be only him and the attacker.

And reason why we allow that is that we dont want to limit ours customers. We want you to have freedom of protecting your privacy using vpn on pc, laptop, phone and you can have different ip on each of them.
Besides doesn't matter if its in the same time.

Restrictions like that are not needed if players protect theirs accounts.

If you have very strong password , 2fA and safe pc. And you don't fall for pshising attacks you will never have problems keeping your accounts safe.
Even strong password without 2fA is enough .
copper member
Activity: 2856
Merit: 3071
https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
June 05, 2016, 03:54:56 PM
Oky, I got all clear for this.

IP that stolen his bitcoins is:    45.219.114.86
Let me know if i should contact forum admins or you will stolee.

I also decided to get the IPs from all other cases when money got stolen and send them in a list to forum admins to try and find some matches.
I know its a slim chance since most of them are somewhat smart enough to use vpn but still wont hurt to try.

Good idea!

I hope you can catch some scammers.

But you never replied to my question:



I originally had 6 BTC which I gambled up to 13. Anything near 6 BTC is good to me, because now I'm fucking broke left with nothing and it's not my fault it's PRIMEDICE'. Why do they allow a different IP to log on simultaneously? Why do they not country lock? Why do they not verify big withdrawals?

Is this true? 2 IPs from different countries logged at the same time and you still allowed a withdrawal?

Actually, if we include Stolee's, then 3 people with 3 different IPs from 3 different country logged on at the same time.
There may have just been two people (or one if you suspect it was Stolee - which is unlikely).
Good idea!
Thank you!

Micro or Stolee, could you post the IP addresses that were not Stolee's or pass them to a staff member on the forum to see if they can track down the user who stole the coins and/or the Bitcoin address the coins were sent to?
That is the only real way that this can be resolved.
It may also be useful for you primedice team to view how the account could have been compromised like you said above in order to get a greater insight as to how the Bitcoins were taken.


Hm, well that is a good idea. But i will have to ask Admins if i can disclose such information. I honestly don't see why not.
I will update on this as soon as i hear from them.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
June 05, 2016, 03:39:40 PM

Oky, I got all clear for this.

IP that stolen his bitcoins is:    45.219.114.86
Let me know if i should contact forum admins or you will stolee.

I also decided to get the IPs from all other cases when money got stolen and send them in a list to forum admins to try and find some matches.
I know its a slim chance since most of them are somewhat smart enough to use vpn but still wont hurt to try.

http://whoislookupdb.com/whois-45.219.114.86
hero member
Activity: 519
Merit: 500
June 05, 2016, 03:10:29 PM
Oky, I got all clear for this.

IP that stolen his bitcoins is:    45.219.114.86
Let me know if i should contact forum admins or you will stolee.

I also decided to get the IPs from all other cases when money got stolen and send them in a list to forum admins to try and find some matches.
I know its a slim chance since most of them are somewhat smart enough to use vpn but still wont hurt to try.

Good idea!

I hope you can catch some scammers.

But you never replied to my question:



I originally had 6 BTC which I gambled up to 13. Anything near 6 BTC is good to me, because now I'm fucking broke left with nothing and it's not my fault it's PRIMEDICE'. Why do they allow a different IP to log on simultaneously? Why do they not country lock? Why do they not verify big withdrawals?

Is this true? 2 IPs from different countries logged at the same time and you still allowed a withdrawal?
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
June 05, 2016, 05:03:41 AM
Best and easiest way to scam. Anyone know how much it cost to open a site like primedice. I wanna start up this scam. If you deposit in my site i rig you , if i cant rig u, i just steal your cash knowing that when u come talk shit on bitcointalk or other forums, idiots will ask u for proof which u wont be able to provide.  Send me offers

LOL... Good thinking . We would never be where we are if we ever would do such things.
Every casino earns enough most of the time with small house edge. Doesn't matter how much it costs to run primedice if we cover it from profits.

I don't know if you saw recent posts on ours main topic. MrVicenzo is +400 bitcoins. Every his deposit is huge.
And that is only 1 guy from many. You can take look at highroller tab and estimate how much money is in primedice balances at any given moment.

Primedice is No.1 and most trustworthy site on the planet for a reason.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
June 05, 2016, 04:57:29 AM
Oky, I got all clear for this.

IP that stolen his bitcoins is:    45.219.114.86
Let me know if i should contact forum admins or you will stolee.

I also decided to get the IPs from all other cases when money got stolen and send them in a list to forum admins to try and find some matches.
I know its a slim chance since most of them are somewhat smart enough to use vpn but still wont hurt to try.
legendary
Activity: 2320
Merit: 1292
Encrypted Money, Baby!
June 05, 2016, 03:43:01 AM
Hm, well that is a good idea. But i will have to ask Admins if i can disclose such information. I honestly don't see why not.
I will update on this as soon as i hear from them.

I don't have any skin in this game, and never had many problems with PD before they blocked USA, but I think you are now doing the right thing, so I tip my hat off to you sir.   I don't know who is correct here, but I'm glad to see you actually trying to help this fellow out. I have to admit, if it were me, I'd be pretty upset too, so you are actually helping your site's rep here, no matter what the outcome is, but transparency and helpfullness goes a long way to help keep building PD's solid rep so far. Smiley

Look forward to seeing how this plays out.. I think Stolee posted all the btc addresses and tx's in the OP, but I lost track where the coins finally went to... Tongue
I agree on that. Hats off for MICRO for still being that patient after all those accusations from the OP, where it's obvious that it's not directly PD's fault.

Maybe theymos would agree on matching the IP address used for the withdrawal on PrimeDice vs IP addresses used on BCT at that time. I bet the thief wasn't that careful to switch IP addresses for posting here - if he has an account here.

This could become a decent cooperation between the forum and an established service here, and it can send a positive sign. People still have to protect themselves from scams here, but scammers have to be prepared to get caught.

Very good idea, imho.
member
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June 04, 2016, 11:28:23 PM
Sorry to hear u got scammed bro
member
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Merit: 10
June 04, 2016, 10:42:28 PM
Best and easiest way to scam. Anyone know how much it cost to open a site like primedice. I wanna start up this scam. If you deposit in my site i rig you , if i cant rig u, i just steal your cash knowing that when u come talk shit on bitcointalk or other forums, idiots will ask u for proof which u wont be able to provide.  Send me offers

Oh well look who is up. Well first thing primedice is a large site and many highrollers play there. They have more than 10-15+ btc or more than it at a time. I don't see any reason of primedice stealing only the OP's  balance and draining all its reputation it earned over a last 3-4 years.

Hacking, phising has become common in this bitcoin world. So i think it is better to put up some measures to protect accounts with 2FA and hard passwords(like hash of your name or any keyword).Negligience from the OP side and putting all the blame to primedice is not cool at all.



I'm not retarded. I know all the hacking tricks in the book so don't try to tell me I was hacked or fell for one of those things. I bet you don't know a single thing about Phising yet you still act like you're a professional. Phising isn't as simple as me signing up on to a website lol. I'll obviously notice the difference. Besides, I used one deposit address from my first time so that's out of the question and my password WS hard.
legendary
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1472
June 04, 2016, 10:36:51 PM
Best and easiest way to scam. Anyone know how much it cost to open a site like primedice. I wanna start up this scam. If you deposit in my site i rig you , if i cant rig u, i just steal your cash knowing that when u come talk shit on bitcointalk or other forums, idiots will ask u for proof which u wont be able to provide.  Send me offers

Oh well look who is up. Well first thing primedice is a large site and many highrollers play there. They have more than 10-15+ btc or more than it at a time. I don't see any reason of primedice stealing only the OP's  balance and draining all its reputation it earned over a last 3-4 years.

Hacking, phising has become common in this bitcoin world. So i think it is better to put up some measures to protect accounts with 2FA and hard passwords(like hash of your name or any keyword).Negligience from the OP side and putting all the blame to primedice is not cool at all.

legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
June 04, 2016, 10:28:10 PM
Best and easiest way to scam. Anyone know how much it cost to open a site like primedice. I wanna start up this scam. If you deposit in my site i rig you , if i cant rig u, i just steal your cash knowing that when u come talk shit on bitcointalk or other forums, idiots will ask u for proof which u wont be able to provide.  Send me offers

Jesus. Seriously? I'm going to leave you a neg right now you moron...  Roll Eyes
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